Steroid compounds and melatonin/sleep

Goldenrod

Goldenrod

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Morning,

I have always wondered why some steroids interrupt sleep more than others - disrupted or less sleep. This is meant for discussion as I am the farthest thing from an expert. Some compounds are worse but in general steroids impact neurotransmitter balance increasing neural alertness even when you are physically exhausted. One possible reason. I am not referring to trenbolone as I don't use it, but it is notorious for interfering with proper sleep.

They can blunt melatonin which is integral for sleep - especially deep and REM sleep. I would think taking melatonin would remedy the problem, but when I take specific compounds, this does not fix the problem.
If taking boldenone, for some this causes anxiety and restlessness and makes it hard to fall asleep and stay asleep.
I have read that increased red blood cell count can worsen sleep apnea which can have a negative impact.

Curious, what others have experienced and what they did to remedy the problem as sleep is integral to repair and a healthy lifestyle.
I have melatonin and Remeron (Mirtazapine) to use if needed in low dosages. It appears to be the drug many doctors reach for albeit some doctors still prescribe trazadone or amitriptyline.

thanks
 
Honestly I haven't noticed a big difference in sleep changes, but truthfully I have never analized it to see if it was happening. COuld be and I just chalked it up to the time of year, or my workload.

I do know deca sometimes gives me restless leg syndrome, drives me nuts, but I get up for about 15 minutes and go back to bed and it seems to calm down, but nothing more frustrated when you are just falling asleep and it happens.
 
Goldenrod said:
Morning,

I have always wondered why some steroids interrupt sleep more than others - disrupted or less sleep. This is meant for discussion as I am the farthest thing from an expert. Some compounds are worse but in general steroids impact neurotransmitter balance increasing neural alertness even when you are physically exhausted. One possible reason. I am not referring to trenbolone as I don't use it, but it is notorious for interfering with proper sleep.

They can blunt melatonin which is integral for sleep - especially deep and REM sleep. I would think taking melatonin would remedy the problem, but when I take specific compounds, this does not fix the problem.
If taking boldenone, for some this causes anxiety and restlessness and makes it hard to fall asleep and stay asleep.
I have read that increased red blood cell count can worsen sleep apnea which can have a negative impact.

Curious, what others have experienced and what they did to remedy the problem as sleep is integral to repair and a healthy lifestyle.
I have melatonin and Remeron (Mirtazapine) to use if needed in low dosages. It appears to be the drug many doctors reach for albeit some doctors still prescribe trazadone or amitriptyline.

thanks
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Im someone who struggles significantly with sleep at the best if times. For some reason on current cycle Im sleeping as well as usual and significantly better than last cycle. Im gonna list out supps i take every night before bed. Many are dual purpose in that they have health benefits but also help sleep.
Magnesium threonate
Magnesium bisgycinate
L theanine
Glycine
NAC
Melatonin 10mg dual release
 
Magnesium Complex
L-Glutathione
HGH

I'm out like a light within 20-40minutes after that. Melatonin helps me fall asleep but doesn't help me stay asleep/feel rested compared to the above.
 
bboy123 said:
Magnesium Complex
L-Glutathione
HGH

I'm out like a light within 20-40minutes after that. Melatonin helps me fall asleep but doesn't help me stay asleep/feel rested compared to the above.
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Have you tried the dual action melatonin? Has short and timed release.
 
sleep just doesn’t happen on tren for me, some guys get away with it.

if i do manage to fall asleep, i then wake up every hour like clockwork. on any other compound ive used/trt my struggle is still falling asleep, but once im out im out.

Sleep cocktail:
10mg dual action melatonin
L-theanine
5g Glycine
Mag Glycinate
Mag Citrate
50mg Apigenin
200mg Phosphatidylserine
Ashwaghanda

Then 2+ iu of growth. As you can see, sleep and I don’t get along. Doctor is completely against sleep aids so I’m just fucked unless I want to buy grey market.
 
Trenbolone&Cheese said:
sleep just doesn’t happen on tren for me, some guys get away with it.

if i do manage to fall asleep, i then wake up every hour like clockwork. on any other compound ive used/trt my struggle is still falling asleep, but once im out im out.

Sleep cocktail:
10mg dual action melatonin
L-theanine
5g Glycine
Mag Glycinate
Mag Citrate
50mg Apigenin
200mg Phosphatidylserine
Ashwaghanda

Then 2+ iu of growth. As you can see, sleep and I don’t get along. Doctor is completely against sleep aids so I’m just fucked unless I want to buy grey market.
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Lemborexant (Dayvigo) is a good starter sleep med
 
Trenbolone&Cheese said:
yeah i’ve tried to get it prescribed but it was a no-go from my doc. did try trazodone but it wrecked me the next day every time i tried it
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Jheez really? Surprising that he’d prescribe you trazo but be not dayvigo. A buddy of mine was buying dayvigo off pg, got tired of spending money on it, so he went to a walk in clinic and the doc prescribed him it. Definitely required a little bit of persuasion
 
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