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It's not just addiction, it's dependance and it's well documented. We like to think no one is watching, but the medical community has been watching for a long time.



So like coffee or energy drinks.
 
Personally I just find it hard to believe. While I do think there are some out there who might do this kind of experiment ( which i find interesting but also a bit of a circus sideshow) for some reason it just doesnt smell real to me. To me it looks like hes trolling in horrorcock kind of way. Maybe narcissistic attention seeking...if im wrong than I apologize
 
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So like coffee or energy drinks.
No, actual chemical dependance.

For some it's not a habit they can kick like an energy drink or cigarettes. Many are on TRT because they just never bounced back from PED use or they can't mentally handle adjusting to being natural again.

Before you say it, I get that someone may consider TRT when they're older anyways but that doesn't take away from the physiological consequences of AAS usage.
 
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I have decided to remove this post and anyone who wishes to discuss proper medical harm reduction is free to reach out via the dms i would love to discuss and share!

I had hoped for an intellectual discussion ranging from trt to trt+ to rec lifters to compatative athletes on various doses on the results and the methods of harm reduction utalized along with which drugs should be utalized by which populations when, why, and where and how to productively go about using them and how to attain them from medical professionals in order to prevent the degradation of the brain, cardiomyopathy, and renal fibrosis/fsg that begins as soon as one extends out of medical trt range. Ultimately i was met with no discussion on the relevent topic at hand and all responses were personal insults at both best and worst....

I also had hoped to share the required links to members here to set themselves up with the sports mds and sports cardiologists i utalize who are world famous and renowned experts working with pop rec athletes to famous ones. But i see that would have been as futile as this post. I can see no one would want ezetimide, telemasartin, repatha etc rx'd and covered by gov or insurance but prefer to pay out of pocket, use ugl versions, or import from india or run dogshit like red yeast rice and citrus bergamot

I have come to realize that this space is not one which welcomes modern science and medical practices regarding harm reduction and do not wish to throw a wrench in the archaic and bro beliefes that have come to perpetuate this community.

Not a single point was raised against the methods of harm reduction. And i think that is where my post stand victorious:

No one could compose a critique of the harm reduction methods or counter that at trt a vast majority are required and even sub 1g cycles require the brigade of them.
Imagine writing a 300-word concession speech disguised as a victory lap 😂

Your sales pitch failed and now you're moving goal posts to everyone here is too stupid to understand so I won't share my "knowledge".

Narcissistic altruism at its finest right here folks.
 
Edit:

I have decided to remove this post and anyone who wishes to discuss proper medical harm reduction is free to reach out via the dms i would love to discuss and share!

I had hoped for an intellectual discussion ranging from trt to trt+ to rec lifters to compatative athletes on various doses on the results and the methods of harm reduction utalized along with which drugs should be utalized by which populations when, why, and where and how to productively go about using them and how to attain them from medical professionals in order to prevent the degradation of the brain, cardiomyopathy, and renal fibrosis/fsg that begins as soon as one extends out of medical trt range. Ultimately i was met with no discussion on the relevent topic at hand and all responses were personal insults at both best and worst....

I also had hoped to share the required links to members here to set themselves up with the sports mds and sports cardiologists i utalize who are world famous and renowned experts working with pop rec athletes to famous ones. But i see that would have been as futile as this post. I can see no one would want ezetimide, telemasartin, repatha etc rx'd and covered by gov or insurance but prefer to pay out of pocket, use ugl versions, or import from india or run dogshit like red yeast rice and citrus bergamot

I have come to realize that this space is not one which welcomes modern science and medical practices regarding harm reduction and do not wish to throw a wrench in the archaic and bro beliefes that have come to perpetuate this community.

Not a single point was raised against the methods of harm reduction. And i think that is where my post stand victorious:

No one could compose a critique of the harm reduction methods or counter that at trt a vast majority are required and even sub 1g cycles require the brigade of them.
Come back a year or two after this experiment and let us know how it went. Let’s see if you still feel the same way about it once you’re on the other side of it.
 
No, actual chemical dependance.

For some it's not a habit they can kick like an energy drink or cigarettes. Many are on TRT because they just never bounced back from PED use or they can't mentally handle adjusting to being natural again.

Before you say it, I get that someone may consider TRT when they're older anyways but that doesn't take away from the physiological consequences of AAS usage.
Caffine is a chemical dependance. Quit and see how you feel.
There are studies on the addictiveness of caffine, lots of them.
 
Edit:

I have decided to remove this post and anyone who wishes to discuss proper medical harm reduction is free to reach out via the dms i would love to discuss and share!

I had hoped for an intellectual discussion ranging from trt to trt+ to rec lifters to compatative athletes on various doses on the results and the methods of harm reduction utalized along with which drugs should be utalized by which populations when, why, and where and how to productively go about using them and how to attain them from medical professionals in order to prevent the degradation of the brain, cardiomyopathy, and renal fibrosis/fsg that begins as soon as one extends out of medical trt range. Ultimately i was met with no discussion on the relevent topic at hand and all responses were personal insults at both best and worst....

I also had hoped to share the required links to members here to set themselves up with the sports mds and sports cardiologists i utalize who are world famous and renowned experts working with pop rec athletes to famous ones. But i see that would have been as futile as this post. I can see no one would want ezetimide, telemasartin, repatha etc rx'd and covered by gov or insurance but prefer to pay out of pocket, use ugl versions, or import from india or run dogshit like red yeast rice and citrus bergamot

I have come to realize that this space is not one which welcomes modern science and medical practices regarding harm reduction and do not wish to throw a wrench in the archaic and bro beliefes that have come to perpetuate this community.

Not a single point was raised against the methods of harm reduction. And i think that is where my post stand victorious:

No one could compose a critique of the harm reduction methods or counter that at trt a vast majority are required and even sub 1g cycles require the brigade of them.
the spelling mistakes make me really think you’re a scholar. don’t kill yourself taking drugs in the name of “modern science.”
 
Caffine is a chemical dependance. Quit and see how you feel.
There are studies on the addictiveness of caffine, lots of them.
I'm not understanding the comparison you're using here. Are you saying it's like caffeine dependance in the sense that dependance is dependance? Or are you using caffeine dependance to down play the long term affects of PED use that may ultimately lead to dependance on TRT?

Caffeine dependance is temporary at best. I'm talking long term permanent dependance.
 
Come back a year or two after this experiment and let us know how it went. Let’s see if you still feel the same way about it once you’re on the other side of it.
Many scientists only get the recognition they deserve after they're dead.

Sad but true.
 
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