Good to know. I might start zoloft for anxiety
Let's get some chat going about it
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i found even low dose anti depressants to cause side effects
i.e 75mg of effexor, 10mg of lexapro, both are typically starting dosages that are titrated up, me personally I never had to titrate up because I felt fine and it was more of a enhancement rather than a full out depression treatment, also to help with anxiety.
actually lexopro wasn't bad, libido wasn't really effected but I noticed a huge issue with ejaculation, that alone took like a 10 min handjob after or more
I used paxil and another time I tried cipralex. Neither improved my general mood. Paxil made orgasm nearly impossible I'd sometimes fake it so she didn't feel bad. Cipralex made me manic, all I cared about was partying with drugs and alcohol, I had to taper off. I don't fuck with SSRI meds anymore, no upside for me.
On the topic of SSRIs i think something worth mentioning is a lot of herbal supplements like ashwaganda are shown to have similar side effects. Rhidola rosea is another herbal supplement being pimped for helping with stress and cortisol, I swear that shit messed my sex drive up too.
Wife was taking an anti anxiety med for about 6 months.. I think she orgasmed 2 times in those 6 months.. She cums very very easily, but while on the meds nope... She also had zero interest in sex.. This is common side for anxiety and depression meds.
Soemoen here posted a study about how ashwaganda actually took pleasure out of things that used to give a person pleasure. Also sort of took motivation out of ppl who seek out activities that used to give them pleasure..
So if you get lots of pleasure from say racing motorcycles, ashwaganda lowered the amount of pleasure if gave you and lowered the amount of motivation you had to go out and race motorcycles..
Didn't do it to everyoen though and it was dose dependant too I believe.
Anxeity/depression is a fucked up thing though... if you need meds for it, take the meds until you get things under control.. Once under control, make a plan to see if you can manage the anaixety/depression without meds... If you can't manage without the meds, I'm telling you I think its better for you to be on meds and get less pleasures from life and less orgasms than deal with nasty anxiety/depression.
Yea I think I've read somewhere that mixed with cialis or viagra makes a big difference when taking ssri. Not just for errection but maybe blood flow helps sensation and stimulation as well. Women are known to take viagra as well so may be worth trying if anyone or anyone's wives have issues on ssri.
I've read about people having similar effects, it just dopes you up and dulls the senses. CBD had a similar effect to ashwaganda for me. Took the joy out of life.
I've had my battles with anxiety since I was a kid, swore I'd never go the pharma route my mom did. I swear whatever she's taking makes her manic or slightly bipolar at times.
Meditation/ mindfulness and spirituality etc is what made the greatest difference on the mental/ spirtual front. Bodybuilding on the body side of things especially food. Certain foods themselves make me more anxious than others. I encourage everyone to pay attention to how certain foods make them behave, it's something i think a lot of people underestimate when it comes to mental health. I could go on about other things including programming and music but ill leave it at that.
Having that discipline, positive attitude and routine just makes me a well oiled machine and its mega hard to get down on myself as result.
Ice baths and joggers high are good for a dopamine rush, also planning anything. Oxytocin is a nice warm relaxing feeling you can get from cuddling your wife or kids or dogs. We walk around high on life all day long lol. I admit without the rat race of having to work slave hours on night shifts for assholes I don't like I probably wouldn't have anxiety or need adhd meds at all. It's to help me conform better to societies expectations.
I totally hear you.
But maybe thats just it though, setting our own expectations, but at the same time expecting nothing. Anxiety doesn't have to be bad, i learned not to antagonize myself because of how i feel. It just ends up being reforcement for that feeling, just producing more of it. When i started looking at my emotions as a tool for my success as oppose to being a victim of it, it really gave me a sense of my own ability to control what i can. It is definitely empowering.
I dont want to get all philosophical now lol
Your right though.
On a side note: please change your name to Cocaine Bear.
Cuz it would be kinda cool.
Carry on……..
I don't think the issue has to do with blood flow when your on SSRI.. The issue is your seritonin levels.. the SSRI's bascially keep your seritonin levels stable. BAsically they prevent them from getting to low, but they also preven them from getting too high.. thus taking away your ability to feel pleasure or get pleasure from stimulation.
I have looked into it and I really don't think there's much out their for women to get them turned on.. men who take viaga/cialus are often turned on, but phsycially can't get an errection... Even if a man wasn't turned on, they need a boner to bang.. so the viagra gives them the boner to fuck.. Woman don't need an errection to bang, but they need to be mentally turned on to want too. viagra/cilas can't fix that. Get more blood to the womens clit doesn't mean they want to fuck or will enjoy it. A woman can bang regardless if she's horny or not though.
Sorry I must of said it wrong. I meant despite the increased serotonin from using an ssri, viagra or cialis was shown to help sexual disfunction when taken with an ssri. I don't know exactly how since it only really treats blood flow but it does work and anecdotally I can attest to this. I had broken my leg and was on some serious pain meds, I probably wouldn't have ever been able to finish but after adding some cialis it became quite a fun temporary concoction lol.
Sildenafil in the Treatment of SSRI-Induced Sexual Dysfunction: A Pilot Study
Background: Sexual dysfunction is a well-documented side effect of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). Commonly reported side effects include erectile impotence, anorgasmia, ejaculatory delay, pain, loss of sensation, and decreased pleasure. ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I just wondered if viagra or cialis would also help women in this situation being the ssri doesn't cause a blood flow problem but Ed meds still help it. This is also based on the idea that women can take viagra and just the extra blood flow to the clitoris has been shown to be sexualy stimulative
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I think the two issues can feed off of one another so if a guy is slightly limp he won't be as interested and then the lack of interest makes him more impotent. But if you give him a rock hard on it's an extra boost in motivation so even the slightest sexual interest can carry a lit more weight so to speak
I might be, but funny thing is sometimes i forget about these things and get caught up in the madness myself. I guess it's just part of being human.