Hey Guys!
Was wondering!Lets say you get your hands on some gear and you know it's over dosed, "cypionate" in cottonseed oil!Can you get sterile cottonseed oil and cut it down ?Good idea ,bad idea ,no no ?It gives bad ass pip the next day !My delt is killing me !
How do you know it’s overdosed. Is it t500 or something?Hey Guys!
Was wondering!Lets say you get your hands on some gear and you know it's over dosed, "cypionate" in cottonseed oil!Can you get sterile cottonseed oil and cut it down ?Good idea ,bad idea ,no no ?It gives bad ass pip the next day !My delt is killing me !
If its overdosed just take less of it..lol.. pip does not mean its overdosed....
Hey Guys!
Was wondering!Lets say you get your hands on some gear and you know it's over dosed, "cypionate" in cottonseed oil!Can you get sterile cottonseed oil and cut it down ?Good idea ,bad idea ,no no ?It gives bad ass pip the next day !My delt is killing me !
He's from a reputable lab !But something is off!Your buddy needs a science lesson
Hahaha, that's putting it nicely, it's all a bunch of bullshit....I bet there is atleast 10 IFBB pros using it too.Your buddy needs a science lesson
And all that add 5% stuff..... sounds like a campfire story.
He's from a reputable lab !But something is off!
No ,not the stuff I used to get .No pip at all and was super good !With great results !But then again it's stuff from the UK !This stuff cripples you for about 4 days .No virgin muscles ,Iv'e been pining for a while now!I really don't mind the 5% that's super, but doubt it !It's probably too much BA like I told the guy !Test Cyp always hurts. PIP after every shot, and frequent shots suck.
Definitely a larger fan of Enanthate. Sure, you lose half the molecule through metabolism, but it's cheap, and you can take twice the dose if you're that upset about losing the Enanthate functional group.
Also, PIP is almost always caused by the solvent or functional group attachment of the hormone. In this case, it's either your solvent, or just the Cyp functional group which is causing a reaction. I can't touch the stuff. I swell up like a wasp sting, and can't run for weeks.
Adding 5% to the oil to increase potency is a really nice thing to do, but I doubt they do it. Proper cooking technique to sterilize the oil shouldn't cause any hormone loss from the heat necessary to sterilize the mixture. When mixing raws, I always autoclave my oils in jars first, and using large glass syringes, transport to smaller breakout vials, preloaded with powder, and pasteurized.
But, if they are overdosed by 5%. Who cares? Don't mess around with sterility. Believe me, abscesses are no joke. Just take less?
Oh and don't shoot delts. Sleeping on a shot delt sucks. You can use long insulin syringes in your quads if you're lean enough (and if you're not... you shouldn't be shooting test)
Test Cyp always hurts. PIP after every shot, and frequent shots suck.
Definitely a larger fan of Enanthate. Sure, you lose half the molecule through metabolism, but it's cheap, and you can take twice the dose if you're that upset about losing the Enanthate functional group.
Also, PIP is almost always caused by the solvent or functional group attachment of the hormone. In this case, it's either your solvent, or just the Cyp functional group which is causing a reaction. I can't touch the stuff. I swell up like a wasp sting, and can't run for weeks.
Adding 5% to the oil to increase potency is a really nice thing to do, but I doubt they do it. Proper cooking technique to sterilize the oil shouldn't cause any hormone loss from the heat necessary to sterilize the mixture. When mixing raws, I always autoclave my oils in jars first, and using large glass syringes, transport to smaller breakout vials, preloaded with powder, and pasteurized.
But, if they are overdosed by 5%. Who cares? Don't mess around with sterility. Believe me, abscesses are no joke. Just take less?
Oh and don't shoot delts. Sleeping on a shot delt sucks. You can use long insulin syringes in your quads if you're lean enough (and if you're not... you shouldn't be shooting test)
Cyp should NEVER hurt. Most find it more tolerable that enanthate actually. But everyone is different I suppose. Still it should never hurt if it’s made properly.
Overdosing isn’t nice either. As a customer you should expect accurately dosed gear. Nothing more, nothing less.
Incorrect, shooting a substance into your body should always cause some sort f discomfort. Cyp isn’t able to hold at 250mg so any cyp dosed at 250 (if the lab actually puts 250 in it) then it’s going to have a lot of other things in it to make it hold at 250 which will cause pain. If you want pain free cyp, buy from a lab with a bad reputation because their cyp will be labeled at 250 yet it will only have 175-200.
Saying cyp should never hurt, or any injection should never hurt, is totally wrong. Normally I agree with things you say but this is wrong.
This whole issue has such an easy fix to it, the guy needs to just use enth. Most people find cyp makes them hold more water anyway. There’s literally no difference in the two drugs except the half life of cyp is 10.5 days and enth is 12. My doctor switches me between the two every couple years, probably just giving me whichever drug gives him more kickbacks for prescribing it ... point is their identical. Nobody out there can honestly say they could tell the difference if I snuck into their drug cabinet and switched all their cyp with enth and didn’t tell them , they’d never know.
OP (original poster) could have just asked for enth next time and avoided all this useless headache. To be honest, most labs out there use enth powder anyway and put that in their cyp and enth. So seems like this could have been solved soooo easily without this guy making such a huge deal. Just order enth. Period. No issue needed to be made.
Where are you sourcing your info?
First cyp can hold at 250. Not everyone can make it hold at 250 though. If they can’t, they’re not a great brewer. That goes in standard preps. No strong solvents required.
Second. The ester arrangement between cyp and enanthate is very different. Saying it’s the same is wrong. The molecular arrangement is what varies the most but you can see the difference also in the molecular formula. The two are used interchangeably almost yes and most if not all people could not tell the difference between the two. But to say they are the same in largely incorrect.
Third. Most people hold more water on cyp? Show me the data on that statement. You are posting opinions ( like where you are saying labs make cyp at 175-200 and claiming it’s 250). You can’t say that past your option and approximations. That is not factual at all.
Lastly. I will agree to disagree with you saying all shots should hurt. Some do by nature of what they are. Some do because they’re not made particularly well and some the end user probably inflicts on himself. But I will stand by the fact that properly made cyp should not hurt when it’s being dosed. Or as pip thereafter. Same as most other preparations made by labs that know what they are doing.