Can I cruise for life at 22

libo said:
Where did you pull this number from?? Its definitely not 99% if you've been blasting and cruising from young 20s into mid 30s. Maybe if you took real time off between cycles with one short cycle a year it might be, but with cruising indefinitely it's unlikely unless you keep HCG on board from day 1.

I spent 2 years off with HCG(4000iu script weekly) and HMG under a Endo, I was still at 0.3ng/dl at the second year mark when we gave up and went back on TRT. So I'm sure I can't be the only 1% out there. The length of blast and cruise window without breaks would play a huge role. OP will have to accept that
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It’s very recoverable for most people, especially as protocols are updating and being used properly. Almost always fully maintainable on something like HCG if u use it for the full duration as long as u dont touch something like ment.


Recovery of spermatogenesis following testosterone replacement therapy or anabolic-androgenic steroid use - PMC

The use of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for hypogonadism continues to rise, particularly in younger men who may wish to remain fertile. Concurrently, awareness of a more pervasive use of anabolic-androgenic steroids (AAS) within the ...
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Plethora of different studies, the better the protocols the higher the recovery rate.

PMID 16650651: “The typical probability of recovery to 20 million per mL was 67% (61–72) within 6 months, 90% (85–93) within 12 months, 96% (92–98) within 16 months, and 100% within 24 months.”

100% likely is just luck, and 99% may of been an exaggeration but realistically the number is around 90-95%.


If you really fail to ‍bring it back you are in a very low percentage of people, there’s always other methods you can try as well, such as blasting a gram or two of test could theoretically induce spermatogenesis and potentially aid recovery thru Sertoli cells . 0 actual studies besides one rat study but a lot of anecdotes for this, Plenty of bodybuilders have conceived in prep because such high dose test as counterproductive as it sounds.

The impact of exogenous testosterone supplementation on spermatogenesis in a rat model of oligoasthenospermia - PMC

Oligoasthenospermia is one of the main causes of infertility in reproductive-age men. This study aimed to explore the feasibility of exogenous testosterone supplemental therapy (TST) for adult male rats with oligoasthenospermia model. The rats ...
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Im still unsure if this whole thing is someone just fucking around. If you truly are just a young guy looking for a wsy to get some control over life. Fitness/bodybuilding can provide some great structure and routine and increase the buy in to a healthy lifestyle. Please get your mind and body used to what healthy eating and training looks like for at least 3-5 years. At your age you could see significant body recomposition just training and eating. If a few years from now your fully in it. Than try a cycle after doing all the research. Lastly if life has kicked the shit out of you try to access a mental health therapist. Im jot saying that as a dig in any way young sir. Sometimes life kicks our ass and getting some support wont solve everything. But can help
 
Trenbolone&Cheese said:
has anyone ever heard of someone using gear to try and not have to sleep? where in the fuck would that come from. someone watched the russian sleep experiment fairytale and thought it was a good idea i guess
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Actually not to argue with you but I need like 8 hours of sleep a night but on cycle I can sleep 6 hours and be fully recovered. Physically though not mentally or emotionally lmfao
 
Zen said:
I have never trained before. I would guess low, I don't sleep much and I am skinny, almost 6ft6 at about 183lbs, so I would like to start training too. I did use amphetamines and psilocybin pills sporadically but i quit now since it's not healthy, so I was wondering about getting on steroids for the mental benefits. Not needing to sleep much and having high alertness, no stress or fear about life. I will train too but its not my priority, if I am honest.
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Best troll I've seen in quite somr time.. best troll or the dumbest idea of the year
 
Zen said:
I have never trained before. I would guess low, I don't sleep much and I am skinny, almost 6ft6 at about 183lbs, so I would like to start training too. I did use amphetamines and psilocybin pills sporadically but i quit now since it's not healthy, so I was wondering about getting on steroids for the mental benefits. Not needing to sleep much and having high alertness, no stress or fear about life. I will train too but its not my priority, if I am honest.
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Jesus.....how did i miss this part.

Maybe if you laid off the amphs and mushrooms you'd sleep and eat a little more....lol.

High alertness.. lol...I suppose thats one way to describe it!
 
Bigbear said:
Actually not to argue with you but I need like 8 hours of sleep a night but on cycle I can sleep 6 hours and be fully recovered. Physically though not mentally or emotionally lmfao
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depends what i’m on. tren 12 hours isn’t enough. 4+ iu of growth and i function great on 5 hours. i’ve been on test for like 4 years now between trt and blasting so idk if that’s affecting sleep at this point
 
biguglynewf said:
Truly, you can do anything you want.

Whether or not it's a good idea can be another story.

There is no defined time where aas use is acceptable or not. That story is different for everyone and depends on a multitude of factors. No one can tell you when or off it is the right time or what it should look like.

The only advice I can offer is this.... whatever you decide. Be informed. Do a lot of research and try to truly understand these five things...if nothing else....

1) Choosing to use aas WILL change your life. Sometimes for the good, sometimes for the not so good. Regardless. Aas use comes with permanent health impacts. Choices....good, bad or indifferent ALWAYS come with consequences. Not all doom and gloom here. But use changes everything.

2) What you think is important today will change significantly as you progress and age. This to me, is the one that everyone thinks they understand but rarely do. Always give it thought and constant consideration. Hindsight is always 20/20.

3) The choice to use aas WILL impact your health, especially over time. You can mitigate negative impacts if you are both informed and conservative in your choices and approach as time goes on. However, there are no guarantees. Some can use forever without much consequence, some aren't so lucky....there are no concrete ways to determine your path proactively. Monitoring health and being honest with yourself is paramount. You WILL find yourself at some point... or points trying to explain away the obvious to stay on a little longer or run a little higher or push a little further. Why? Because they work and are awesome. Pushing, especially here and there, isn't a death sentence or anything necessarily, however the more it happens, the more other things can start to happen....and sometimes by the time they are realized, the damage has been done.

4) Risk vs reward is a real thing to always keep in mind. That too, changes significantly over time.

5) Just because you dont "feel" negative sides.....doesn't mean you aren't experiencing them. Monitor your health. BP, Bloods, Sugars etc.
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Listen to this!!
150% accurate there.
 
Zen said:
I have never trained before. I would guess low, I don't sleep much and I am skinny, almost 6ft6 at about 183lbs, so I would like to start training too. I did use amphetamines and psilocybin pills sporadically but i quit now since it's not healthy, so I was wondering about getting on steroids for the mental benefits. Not needing to sleep much and having high alertness, no stress or fear about life. I will train too but its not my priority, if I am honest.
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The members here are extremely nice, but I think you need to listen to another perspective as well.

this forum is for men and women who train hard and may use AAS to enhance their training, recovery and performance. The gear is not as a substitute for training or a shortcut to improve all your life’s problems.

Get the hell out of forums until you’re able to train at least 6 months consistently (2-3 times a week). You will quickly learn about discipline, perseverance, confidence, and what it feels like to earn happiness.

I suspect the regular excercise itself will solve many of the issues you’re hinting at above.

Start there - then come back.

6 months flies by - take the winter to commit to the gym.
 
Zen said:
I have never trained before. I would guess low, I don't sleep much and I am skinny, almost 6ft6 at about 183lbs, so I would like to start training too. I did use amphetamines and psilocybin pills sporadically but i quit now since it's not healthy, so I was wondering about getting on steroids for the mental benefits. Not needing to sleep much and having high alertness, no stress or fear about life. I will train too but its not my priority, if I am honest.
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just stick with these to be honest
 
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