All drugs legal in BC now
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Addiction is terrible, doesnt matter what substance it is. When you have a real or severe addiction it will take everything from you. If your lucky, you will escape it alive. I feel for all that suffer from addiction. When i see people on the street all strung out and hurting from the drugs, i know what its like and it saddens me deeply to see how most people just think and treat them as sub human. These are humans that have been through some terrible things whether on purpose or not. They need and deserve some help. They may not be ready or willing yet, but at some point they will be, even if its on the way to the ER or when they are ODing on the sidewalk. They have danced with the devil and need help to escape him. That said, provided easier access to optain more and harsher substances is not a good solution. Everyone says, yeh but portugal. I have been to portugal prior and post drug legalization. The people in the drug infested areas and hangouts are still there. Governments report whatever they please. Theres less young people in portugal every year since early 2000s because the economy is shit. They have to go to the more economically stable countries to study and work. The people that are in portugal are mostly elders that drink wine and foreigners that want to work towards a better life. So if the younger crowd is leaving they would be doing drugs in other countries not portugal. There are the few drug addicts that stuck around and get wasted by the beach cafés day and night. Cant believe whatever Governments tell you. Covid should have tought most people that by now.
I think this is a terrible idea seeing as the violence is already crazy in bc………what do you think the gangs are gonna do when the market gets fuct cus the price got driven down………can easily say ok cool let the animals kill the animal’s but it never works like that. When I say animals I refer to crack and fent dealers shooting each other not the addicts. I think this is good in theory sort of in a way but it’s not gonna end well. If there’s more brazen shootings and stupid shit like that it just puts the public at risk.
I feel for ppl that come from other countries and don’t know what they’re getting themselves into. Ppl who know what these drugs I can’t wrap my head around why anyone ever even think for a second to try meth or crack or heroin or fent. Drugs are fuckin garbage.
I have 2 neighbours from Portugal. They said drug use is insane there. Part of the reason both moved. One guy said it looks good on paper because no one is arrested anymore, so the problem is solved, wink, wink.
Anyhow, it’s only 2 people, but I have a tendancy to believe people who lived there, over a article.
Now, it could be better than it was before.
Since decriminalization program in Portugal, the number of users in the system has tripled, and paradoxically the number of convictions has increased dramatically. Easier to collect a fine than to run a trial maybe.
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I think the major issue here is preventing overdose deaths mainly rom laced or dirty drugs. Maybe not packing jails with people who have mental health issues also. Not necessarily the stats on use. People drink and smoke cannabis like crazy too no one really cares. I'm sure also the government realizes the billions in revenues going to organized crime is better staying in the country and taxed
So less arrests but no reduction in use is seen as a sucess? Lol
Hey I don’t know if making everything completely legal will fix the issue or make it better, but instead of putting all the money there, I still believe better prevention is needed.
We are still tying to cure the disease after its contracted instead of proactive medicine
Hey they need to adopt this method to the carbon tax. Reduce it so we reduce consumption of oil products. That is where they are going wrong and why its not working, lol.
You have to have prevention programs. As far as I know, and I am certainly not in the loop these days, the safe injection sites are staffed with counsellors, social workers, nurses and paramedics, all to attempt to get the addict to at least listen to what may be available. It is not like going to a drive-thru burger joint and ordering your daily fix. The safe consumption sites I was familiar with in TO still have problems with people coming to get clean needles and then heading out to the close by parks; Moss Park for one, injecting and leaving needles wherever.
This statement is 100% accurate as experienced 1st hand. All the people who looked down on me when I was a smoker are now diving into these pot stores and boasting about it. I find it hilarious and on the same token makes me sick
I'm actually all for decriminalization, just not how this is being rolled out.
Addiction is a serious disease and needs to be treated like one, which does not mean prison but equally does not mean free to use without controls in place.
Medicalized safe consumption spaces make sense as treatment option. Id even be for free drug dispensing so long as it was consumed there with supervision.
Whats left out of the Portugal example is how they brought in commissions for counseling. Drug consumption was decriminalized, but appearance before the commission was mandatory.
Addiction is a serious disease and needs to be treated like one, which does not mean prison but equally does not mean free to use without controls in place.
Medicalized safe consumption spaces make sense as treatment option. Id even be for free drug dispensing so long as it was consumed there with supervision.
Whats left out of the Portugal example is how they brought in commissions for counseling. Drug consumption was decriminalized, but appearance before the commission was mandatory.
Ya think if it’s not taboo at all how fuckin out of control and gross that will get
You know, I am mixed on this whole thing.
First off we need to try something different because we have been doing is not working. There is so many addicts everywhere now in our city, where 17 years ago there was so little.
I have no idea if decriminalizing will work, I think it won’t, but then I think of what I wrote above.
Honestly with this you know way more about it then I ever will. Even if you didn’t deal direct, you have the education and would have talked to co workers.
I don't know, either.
I think a few folks have already had way too many drugs and are succumbing to the brain cell losses...BC does this shit as an experiment for the elites out East, then they follow, always been that way in history.
Personally i think that a lot more folks will be getting hooked on the dangerous drugs as they come into easy purchase ability..
They will have a bigger issue in the health care system as it finds its way through the challenges that will come with this, and save some time and money in courts...
DRUG JUST WON THE WAR ON DRUGS, AGAIN....
Personally i think that a lot more folks will be getting hooked on the dangerous drugs as they come into easy purchase ability..
They will have a bigger issue in the health care system as it finds its way through the challenges that will come with this, and save some time and money in courts...
DRUG JUST WON THE WAR ON DRUGS, AGAIN....
Ya I think defo the other provinces will
Follow suit to theres some sort of agenda probly I just don’t have an idea to
Hypothesize…….remember when one province locks down what happened. So ya like @Sorbate freind told him “looks good on paper” probly do the same here than spread thru Canada cus ya drug crime is down on paper as they’re not arresting anyone. Why they’re doing it? Probly so the government can control a bunch of money from street level drug trade. Makes sense there’s a lot of money involved. Is it for the good of everyone LOL not a fuckin chance. Definatley a financial agenda I just didn’t wanna speak first but @ironwill kind of said it so I’ll put it out there. Just a “conspiracy theory”
Do you think maybe he’s not off the meth? I have personal experience working with addicts. They will swear up and down they are clean and act like a schizophrenic for months, then get forced to dry out and then seem almost completely normal. Maybe he needs to spend a few months in jail to force himself sober.
I agree. Drug induced psychosis mimics skizophrenia but usually stops 6 months to a year after drugs have stopped