Would you beat someone up or risk getting charged to help an animal getting abused?

[Sorbate]

If they see this post it won't matter if he attacks you first, as you just posted your intention was to go find him.

This would be considered premeditated on your part. That would give him a major case of defence, as well as give prosecution a major case of intent against you.

Your right, you have to think like a lawyer, and this is the absolute opposite of what a lawyer would do or recommend you do as this post ruins your defence.

Kinda overthinking it a bit.

This is tough as he definitely needs to be warned but he’s likely mentally ill.

It’s a sad state of affairs as to what’s going on in Canada. We have money to send to Ukraine but nothing to get people off the streets and treat mental illness.

At one time he was a little boy and someone’s pride and joy but likely someone ruined him along the way.

Sometimes they are just not wired right. Nothing created a trigger to have them go downhill, it was genetics.

Since I stayed in my stepsons life even when he was at his worst and most would have just left, I learned alot about the people who live like that.

I’d bet 50% came from great households, but the brain just wasn’t wired to be”normal”. No matter what people or the community around them did, they just didn't turn out right.

 

[The Old Guy]

Kinda overthinking it a bit.

Sometimes they are just not wired right. Nothing created a trigger to have them go downhill, it was genetics.

Since I stayed in my grandsons life even when he was at his worst and most would have just left, I learned alot about the people who live like that.

I’d bet 50% came from great households, but the brain just wasn’t wired to be”normal”. No matter what people or the community around them did, they just didn't turn out right.

There is that too.

 

[Heraclitus]

Kinda overthinking it a bit.

Sometimes they are just not wired right. Nothing created a trigger to have them go downhill, it was genetics.

Since I stayed in my grandsons life even when he was at his worst and most would have just left, I learned alot about the people who live like that.

I’d bet 50% came from great households, but the brain just wasn’t wired to be”normal”. No matter what people or the community around them did, they just didn't turn out right.

I don't believe anyone is pre-wired although some things like fetal alcohol syndrome can damage development.

Even great households can have hidden histories that are no one’s fault, but still lead to tragic outcomes.

For example, I know a very accomplished man who had a breakdown in his 50s.
After years of therapy, he uncovered what happened during months he spent in the hospital at age five.

In the 70s and early 80s, there was a common belief among doctors that young children didn’t experience or remember pain the same as adults
So why risk the narcotics or anesthesia?
He was held down and had procedures done to him daily that an adult would be put under for.

No one ever told him, and he didn’t consciously remember much, but his body did.
He had reactions that didn’t make sense on the surface. He would feel rage at the sound of crying. He could handle things like maggots and manure, but changing his kids’ diapers would make him physically sick, because he would sometimes shit himself and puke during those procedures.

I think months of that could affect anyone. And this was a reality for generations of kids up into the late 80s.
So you never really know how someone was shaped as a child.

 

[KootenayRider]

Yep

 

[libo]

Street fighting is not boxing, it gets messy. Regardless of how strong you are if you end up on the bottom, there's no referee to call it. Bringing your wife and kids? Bring a friend instead.

There is no way to fix these people other then medication or ending their blood line and I'm in no position or right to do either.

I agree that sometimes people need a good tuning, but then what? He goes home and beats his dogs or kids even harder then last time.

 

[Durk]

Like someone said here earlier homeless people are fucked, they all carry weapons and you aren’t going to intimidate one buy yelling at them. If he went to jail for beating a dog he most likely got his ass kicked in there over it. Beating animals is looked at about as bad as beating kids in there. Some people are just cooked mentally.

 

[Bigbear]

Street fighting is not boxing, it gets messy. Regardless of how strong you are if you end up on the bottom, there's no referee to call it. Bringing your wife and kids? Bring a friend instead.

There is no way to fix these people other then medication or ending their blood line and I'm in no position or right to do either.

I agree that sometimes people need a good tuning, but then what? He goes home and beats his dogs or kids even harder then last time.

Its a beach that we usually go to. My wife just took the kids to the snack bar when I went to look for him. I would never want my kids to see that or hear the dispute. I only brought them to kill two birds with one stone because my I spend all my days off with family.

 

[Bigbear]

I just wanted to have words with him. Deep down I wanted to lay the beats to him might not have been thinking clearly but my blood was boiling and no one was doing anything about it. Everyone commenting on it was like moms and stuff. I dont know if any real men even knew about it

 

[Bigbear]

I train in boxing, and have trained lots in judo, jujitsu, mma etc. It may be stupid but im not afraid of anyone if theyre roughly in my weight class. I think of it like even if hes a trained fighter if hes say homeless his diet and training. My area is also more close knit we dont get much stabbings or shootings unless your invloved in the drug buisness.

 

[Bigbear]

If someone pulled a knife on me I would just obliterate their knees caps and run but they better hope they dont go down or else theyd get the ground and pound hard.

 

[Bigbear]

I didnt find him anyway but I asked around he hangs out a few different spots im going to check another one today. When I posted asking where he hangs out a lot of people started liking my comment so im thinking maybe the community wants to know to so they can all keep an eye out or something

 

[Bigbear]

I cant let it go it hurts too much to think about those poor dogs fuck that bullshit.

 

[Bigbear]

Its the by stander effect where everyone watches but Noone does anything because they all expect someone else to.

 

[Sorbate]

I don't believe anyone is pre-wired although some things like fetal alcohol syndrome can damage development.

Even great households can have hidden histories that are no one’s fault, but still lead to tragic outcomes.

For example, I know a very accomplished man who had a breakdown in his 50s.
After years of therapy, he uncovered what happened during months he spent in the hospital at age five.

In the 70s and early 80s, there was a common belief among doctors that young children didn’t experience or remember pain the same as adults
So why risk the narcotics or anesthesia?
He was held down and had procedures done to him daily that an adult would be put under for.

No one ever told him, and he didn’t consciously remember much, but his body did.
He had reactions that didn’t make sense on the surface. He would feel rage at the sound of crying. He could handle things like maggots and manure, but changing his kids’ diapers would make him physically sick, because he would sometimes shit himself and puke during those procedures.

I think months of that could affect anyone. And this was a reality for generations of kids up into the late 80s.
So you never really know how someone was shaped as a child.

Why wouldn’t our brains function differently like our individual bodies do. Like one guy can gain a lot of muscle where another cannot, but has great endurance?

Yes you can train to compensate, but the original genetics are still there.

I would bet the brain is the same. Excluding extreme outlier examples, I would bet some peoples brains just don’t work exactly like the masses and they cannot function properly in society, can’t maintain employment, more susceptible to addictions and so on.

That is why I stated 50%, other 50 could be trauma.

 

[Heraclitus]

Why wouldn’t our brains function differently like our individual bodies do. Like one guy can gain a lot of muscle where another cannot, but has great endurance?

Yes you can train to compensate, but the original genetics are still there.

I would bet the brain is the same. Excluding extreme outlier examples, I would bet some peoples brains just don’t work exactly like the masses and they cannot function properly in society, can’t maintain employment, more susceptible to addictions and so on.

That is why I stated 50%, other 50 could be trauma.

I completely agree there is wide variety in mental capacity as there is in physical. The brain is physical.
But in general, wouldn't you agree that for the most part everyone's body works in the same way?

But my point was that epigenetic developmental triggers that physically do modify the brain can be hidden.
Like that guy, he had no reason to think he had been traumatized yet displayed PTSD reactivity 50years later.
Either way, beating the guy isn't likely to fix it.
He shouldn't have dogs. Period.

 

[Bigbear]

I completely agree there is wide variety in mental capacity as there is in physical. The brain is physical.
But in general, wouldn't you agree that for the most part everyone's body works in the same way?

But my point was that epigenetic developmental triggers that physically do modify the brain can be hidden.
Like that guy, he had no reason to think he had been traumatized yet displayed PTSD reactivity 50years later.
Either way, beating the guy isn't likely to fix it.
He shouldn't have dogs. Period.

I fully agree I just wish someone would take his dogs. This guy is also known for harassing people and kids from what ive heard just the police dont bother with mental health calls.