Worldwide beauty Standards - Post Carefully!

[CoolRick]

Well that first part was an eye opener, I don't think that matters too much to me personally, I'm pretty stuck on a certain type (or two) of features but what you are saying makes sense.
You nailed it about the 10's, I actually wrote a whole nother paragraph about beauty vs sexyiness in my last post but deleted it. You summed it better!

Interestingly although I can narrow it down to a certain type/s i still can't really say I have a definitive "type". As far as genuine attraction goes it's more a vibe than a type.

What can I say? I love em all

I went back to your OP to see what you meant by "classic" beauty standards but I find it difficult to go beyond basic things like symmetry, no deformities and what not and not start getting into features that tend to cluster around different ethnicities. The latter being largely personal preference and highly subjective.

**Edit** I was just driving just now and suddenly got an idea of what you might be talking about but I'll let you respond before I say

 

[gondar1]

Interestingly although I can narrow it down to a certain type/s i still can't really say I have a definitive "type". As far as genuine attraction goes it's more a vibe than a type.

What can I say? I love em all

I went back to your OP to see what you meant by "classic" beauty standards but I find it difficult to go beyond basic things like symmetry, no deformities and what not and not start getting into features that tend to cluster around different ethnicities. The latter being largely personal preference and highly subjective.

**Edit** I was just driving just now and suddenly got an idea of what you might be talking about but I'll let you respond before I say

interested in what you were about to say, not sure what you were wanting me to respond to? My definition of classic?
Keeping in mind me steering this to be about faces only I guess it would start with feminine above all then maybe add petit, sparkly (lol), a touch of sensual, hard not to throw my own bias' in there when trying to discuss this. Realizing through this discussion how much this is based on what stirred me internally before I even had hair on my nuts, on that note an example, I think a face like that with any skin color or hairstyle or whatever would be in the classic category, no matter what "type" she was, barbie, tatted up, farm girl etc-

 

[CoolRick]

interested in what you were about to say, not sure what you were wanting me to respond to? My definition of classic?
Keeping in mind me steering this to be about faces only I guess it would start with feminine above all then maybe add petit, sparkly (lol), a touch of sensual, hard not to throw my own bias' in there when trying to discuss this. Realizing through this discussion how much this is based on what stirred me internally before I even had hair on my nuts, on that note an example, I think a face like that with any skin color or hairstyle or whatever would be in the classic category, no matter what "type" she was, barbie, tatted up, farm girl etc-

That's pretty close to what I had in mind in regards to what the lowest common denominator is as it pertains to the individual. I've been circling it in my posts without even realizing that I had the answer to your actual question (I think).

talking about faces, not race, not culture, not skin color and definitely not bodytype.

This is the line from your OP that got me thinking beyond the face itself. My line about genuine attraction being more of a "vibe" rather than a physical attribute. Interestingly you post a picture of Liz Taylor, who has features that I think are easily the most captivating (dark hair and blue eyes). BUT! The features alone aren't the thing we are talking about since like you said, this is regardless of race, culture, skin colour and therefore not specific to certain genetic traits.

So I've arrived at what I think you're trying to explain even if you haven't arrived at the same conclusion yet and it's that "je ne sais quoi" quality that that picture of Liz Taylor depicts perfectly. Are the eyes half closed or open? Is she smiling or not? It might sound weird but it's more of picking up on a "vibe" or feeling the woman is giving off via her emotional state than the physical features themselves. Interestingly it's something I cultivate in myself. If you look carefully many attractive/ famous men have this quality too (I think of James Bond actors)

Je ne sais quoi entails that it's the unexplainable. IMO it's because we're trying to convey a feeling translated to use with words that's where things get lost in talking specific attributes.

Tldr; I know exactly (even if our definitions don't align) what you're talking about, and I agree it's the standard, I just wouldn't call it a western standard.

I'm pretty sure I butchered my explanation, but it's hard to articulate let alone get to the heart of. One could say that it's only really known to those who know it in themselves

All in all very interesting conversation!

 

[OntarioDude]

interested in what you were about to say, not sure what you were wanting me to respond to? My definition of classic?
Keeping in mind me steering this to be about faces only I guess it would start with feminine above all then maybe add petit, sparkly (lol), a touch of sensual, hard not to throw my own bias' in there when trying to discuss this. Realizing through this discussion how much this is based on what stirred me internally before I even had hair on my nuts, on that note an example, I think a face like that with any skin color or hairstyle or whatever would be in the classic category, no matter what "type" she was, barbie, tatted up, farm girl etc-

I always thought it was really cool that she had purple eyes at times.

OD

 

[gondar1]

I always thought it was really cool that she had purple eyes at times.

OD

I googled that because I remembered discussions about the rarity of that, revealed to me another interesting fact I never knew which is she had a genetic mutation that gave her a double row of eyelashes, pretty wild IMO

 

[Bigwheel]

For a classic beauty Sophia Loren gets my vote

 

[animal-inside]

Most important part first. I really hope we can get through this without any racism issues. I've tried very hard to chose my words carefully, hopefully and anyone who replies should to. If @Admin or a mod wants to shut it down at any point, including right away I don't have a problem with that at all. I've been here a lon time and if you like me or not hopefully i get at least enough respect to not get called out for being racist and if I do feel free to pm me and I will straighten you right out in a hurry, chances are it won't be polite.
This started as a reply to a thread but I copy pasted it here in full right before I hit send to keep some context.

@Mfg Eng Ok here is a weird question for you or I guess others if you don't mind interrupting your thread a bit. if anyone wants to call me a racist they can do it in PM cause that is not the case but I realize this could trigger somebody.

The basic question is about beauty standards over in some of the asian countries or any country for that matter. I'm just talking about faces, not race, not culture, not skin color and definitely not bodytype. I have a face "type" that I like, I think it would be safe to call it "classic" in the western world, probably the majority of people would have to agree that some women are beautiful regardless of whether they are their type or not. I googled "faces of miss universe winners" and 99.9% of them seem to be a fit for my type. I've heard a famous supermodel's quote about how in the end it's all about the math of geometry of a woman's face and that makes sense to me for the most part, symmetry alone can be a game changer

OK G WTF are you talking about?

I'm just wondering if the "classic" beauty standard applies all over the world and how rare of a find that is in some places? I don't want to insult anyone but in general women from certain places seem to look like they have lived through rough circumstances. All my asian friends are very much westernized except for the women and there is no fucking way Imma ask them. When I see pics from friends that come back from certain places women that look hot to me seem very rare.
If I leave the house for an hour at anytime to shop or gym even walmart I'll see a half-dozen or so 9's or 10's. And holy shit when I used to go to Cali all the time they were everywhere.

So to boil it down is my western standard a thing everywhere? Are there just less of them in certain places? I don't think it's too much of a class thing at least not in my experience. Do certain places just place more importance on different attributes? If so is that just accepted and the value changes - ie a Guelph 10 = an LA 6?

Respectfully Curious, G1

Interesting topic..

I definitely have a face type.. I spent a few mins on google and its the "heart" face type .

Looking back, the most beatiful women (to me) that I have actually meet in person pretty much all had that heart face type I think..Prominent higher cheek bones that are wider than the rest of the face. And for the most part, they all had very big eyes in proportion to the rest of their face.. I also think they all had narrow noses for them most part too.. My wife fits this profile exactly..

Other characteristics for my type is dark hair, thin but curvy body, smaller hips..


I remember as a teen in southern ontario seeing beautiful women everywhere.. I've lived on the east coast for many years and the last 20 or so in alberta and I have never seen a higher % of hot women than southern ontario.. Didn't hurt that I grew up in a city with many colleges and a huge university.. I Think that made the ratio of women aged 18-24 higher than most places..

Beauty is deffinitely percption though.. Any women I find HOT, other guys would agree are attractive, but not nesscairly HOT.. Just like some guys fantasy women is just "attractive" to me and not "HOT".. For example, Pamela Anderson in her prime didn't do anything for me really.. She was attactive, but not hot to me.. But Shania Twain on the other hand.. I'd leave my wife for shania twain even right now lol..


I'd agree perception of beauty changes over time.. I think it can change quite quickly sometimes as well.

Shania


Kim Smith (a model when I was a teen that would turn me inside out if I ever met her). She was in Maxim magazie a lot

 

[animal-inside]

I should add, my wife is quite similar to Kim Smith and Shania Twain as far as their face goes. I'm not bragging.. I'm making a point that I definitely have a face type. I really don't know if I could fall in love with a women if she didn't fit that face type?

 

[animal-inside]

Any thoughts about theories that men tend to fall for women that remind them of their mothers? I read women fall for men who smell/have pheromones similar to their dad?? I read women tend to fall for men who have qualities similar to their dad's qualities as well.

 

[gondar1]

Any thoughts about theories that men tend to fall for women that remind them of their mothers? I read women fall for men who smell/have pheromones similar to their dad?? I read women tend to fall for men who have qualities similar to their dad's qualities as well.

100% believe it at least for the men falling for the woman, apparently for the first little while babies can only see decently well pretty close up so it makes sense that when being cradled or fed by a Mom while feeling all the love would lead to warm and fuzzy feeling later. I wonder if that is the same case if Mom is absent though. Like if baby is adopted by someone who looks way different than natty Mom really early.
Speaking of early, My Mom fit my classic type when she had me, really young, and for a couple of years after but to say it as politely as possible she did not age well.

 

[CoolRick]

100% believe it at least for the men falling for the woman, apparently for the first little while babies can only see decently well pretty close up so it makes sense that when being cradled or fed by a Mom while feeling all the love would lead to warm and fuzzy feeling later. I wonder if that is the same case if Mom is absent though. Like if baby is adopted by someone who looks way different than natty Mom really early.
Speaking of early, My Mom fit my classic type when she had me, really young, and for a couple of years after but to say it as politely as possible she did not age well.

Exactly what I found. I was raised primarily by women from two different races/ ethnicities but the same nationality so naturally that's what I subconsciously gravitated towards, even though consciously I absolutely adore the look of a dark hair, blue eyes, fair skinned woman.

That's speaking purely by physical traits though. I'll find myself watching a movie with say Lacey Chabert or Kate Beckinsale and i'll mention to my wife that they remind me of you even though she doesn't even have the same skin colour.

 

[Bigbear]

Any thoughts about theories that men tend to fall for women that remind them of their mothers? I read women fall for men who smell/have pheromones similar to their dad?? I read women tend to fall for men who have qualities similar to their dad's qualities as well.

I believe that. Your mother generally shows you unconditional love it would make sense to feel comfortable and secure with someone similar. I had an ex once tell me she loved when I smoked cigars because it reminded her of her grandfather. The only other id need is some aqua velvet lol