I’m still around and kicking

Same here with the tingling and sleep. As far as gh goes I’ve never noticed results nearly as quickly though
Glad to hear you’re getting results! I’ve been seeing progress myself with GGC, so I know it’s real GH. What kind of results are you noticing — lower body fat, muscle fullness, or something else?

I remember years ago when I was using Transpharma, it showed all the classic signs of GH — swollen hands, tingling fingers — so you’d think there was GH in there. But after it was tested, it turned out there wasn’t, and I didn’t see any real progress despite the side effects. That experience made me extra cautious about relying on side effects as proof of quality.

Have you ever had anything similar happen, or do you notice consistent progress when side effects show up?
 
Glad to hear you’re getting results! I’ve been seeing progress myself with GGC, so I know it’s real GH. What kind of results are you noticing — lower body fat, muscle fullness, or something else?

I remember years ago when I was using Transpharma, it showed all the classic signs of GH — swollen hands, tingling fingers — so you’d think there was GH in there. But after it was tested, it turned out there wasn’t, and I didn’t see any real progress despite the side effects. That experience made me extra cautious about relying on side effects as proof of quality.

Have you ever had anything similar happen, or do you notice consistent progress when side effects show up?
Yeah I noticed I looked a lot better in the gym. My workouts became just a little better. Fulness, body fat dropped a little. Pump became a lot easier to achieve.

The side effects don’t convince me either. I used quite a few different HGH before. I’ve mostly used pharma humatrope by lily. I don’t believe I used as much as 5 units of pharma but the effects are in line with what i experienced with pharma.

I used a lot of trans pharma back in the day. I never used his gh though. His gear worked well until it didn’t.
 
I know you’ve been around for a while, so I’m guessing you must’ve tried Opti at some point. What did you think of it?
 
I know you’ve been around for a while, so I’m guessing you must’ve tried Opti at some point. What did you think of it?
Actually no I don’t think I have. I used a lot of the grey tops from the provider about 5, 6 or 7 years ago. I used norvos and humatrope pharma grade. Pharma and grey tops I used a lot of. Norvos a few kits maybe. But I don’t remember buying Optis. What lab has those these days?
 
Actually no I don’t think I have. I used a lot of the grey tops from the provider about 5, 6 or 7 years ago. I used norvos and humatrope pharma grade. Pharma and grey tops I used a lot of. Norvos a few kits maybe. But I don’t remember buying Optis. What lab has those these days?
Haven’t seen any recent tests, but the black tops from about six months to a year ago all came back 30+ on the serum tests.

Big Nate just tested the GGC blue tops, and they came back 13.3mg (39.9ius) at 98.7% purity. No dimer found..

GGC is solid — at least we got them certified.

Been on the blue tops for about a month now, but I just ordered some Optis, and they should arrive next week. After running the Optis for about a month, I’ll come back and report.

Either way, I’m just blessed to be in Canada with such good quality hgh that’s so easy to access.
 
I’ve been off for a while now. Just doing TRT until February. No GH at the moment either.

With the time off I’ve been planing my next blast.

I’m thinking it’s going to look something like this.

Anabolics
Test Cyp 1125mg/week
Mast E 300mg/week
Primo 300mg/week

HGH
Starting at 2iu pre workout and slowly ramping up by .5iu every week or two. I’ll be going slow to find the tipping point where I start to experience carpal tunnel symptoms.

Humalog starting at 5iu pre workout as that’s what my diet allows right now. As i progress and bump food I’ll adjust the humalog dose accordingly. I do about 30g carbs intra and another 30g post right now.

T4 100mg ed

I plan on running this for a while. I’ll likely try and get about 5 months out of it if I can’t keep the sides at bay.

My goal here is get past my previous best where I was about 226 and somewhere around 15%bf as my best guess.
 
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I’ve been off for a while now. Just doing TRT until February. No GH at the moment either.

With the time off I’ve been planing my next blast.

I’m thinking it’s going to look something like this.

Anabolics
Test Cyp 1125mg/week
Mast E 300mg/week
Primo 300mg/week

HGH
Starting at 2iu pre workout and slowly ramping up by .5iu every week or two. I’ll be going slow to find the tipping point where I start to experience carpal tunnel symptoms.

Humalog starting at 5iu pre workout as that’s what my diet allows right now. As i progress and bump food I’ll adjust the humalog dose accordingly. I do about 30g carbs intra and another 30g post right now.

T4 100mg ed

I plan on running this for a while. I’ll likely try and get about 5 months out of it if I can’t keep the sides at bay.

My goal here is get past my previous best where I was about 226 and somewhere around 15%bf as my best guess.
Humalog?! Wouldn't you be better off running tren? I heard a lot of bad things about insulin, be careful... (I hope you get my sarcasm lol)
Good luck with the cycle.
 
Figured I’d log 🪵 some training.

As some of you that have known me a while, I train in a modified DC style. I was coached by Dusty Hanshaw for a few years and picked up this training style from his coaching. Here is my PULL DAY B. I only log my work sets. Often they are rest pause. If you see this kind if thing 100x8x4x3 that’s a rest pause set where I go 100lbs for 8, take 15 breaths, 4 more reps, take 15 breaths and 3 more reps. It’s an intensity technique that keeps in or close enough to failure where I adapt.

I don’t train more than 4 days per week as this kind of training will kick my ass pretty quick if I’m not careful. From, negatives and proper paused in the stretch and contraction are key. If not careful, injury will happen fast.

Added a couple gym selfies here to show what im
Looking like. I’ll eventually do real progress pics like I used to once I’ve got enough time back at it

Pullover (Dumbbell)
BACK WIDTH1)DB PULL OVERS...THIS IS NOT DC AT ALL BUT I FEEL IS A GREAT WAY TO OPEN UP THE BACK BEFORE GETTING STARTED PLUS IT IS GREAT FOR THE LOOK OF THE FRONT LAT SPREAD...DO THESE WITH YOUR BODY ON/PARALLEL TO THE BENCH RATHER THAN PERPENDICULAR OR ACROSS THE BENCH...JUST DO 3 SETS OF 15 HERE WITH EACH SET GETTING PROGRESSIVELY MORE HEAVY. FOCUS ON THE STRETCH TO THE LATS BEING VERY DEEP AND FEELING THE LATS WORK RATHER THAN JUST MOVING THE MAXIMUM POUNDAGE'S ON THESE. WHEN GETTING INTO POSITION I WANT YOUR HEAD ACTUALLY HANGING SLIGHTLY OVER THE EDGE ON THE TOP OF THE BENCH SO YOU CAN REALLY FORCE THAT STRETCH AND CONTRACTION OF THE LATS...THESE WILL BE DONE AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH BACK DAY.


40 x 15
45 x 15
50 x 15

Lat Pullfown (machine)
AFTER YOUR WARMUP SETS DO ONE ALL OUT REST PAUSE SET FOR 11 to 15 REPS...I WANT A 4 COUNT NEGATIVE HERE---THEN AFTER YOUR LAST ATTEMPT WE WILL DO A STATIC STRETCH HOLD FOR 20-30 SECS--THIS IS GOING TO BE EXCRUTIATING-WORK THIS HARD!...i DO MY STATIC HERE ABOUT 1/2 WAY TO THE TOP OF THE MOVEMENT AND I FIGHT IT ALL OF THE WAY UNTIL MY ARMS ARE ALMOST STRAIGHT BEFORE GIVING UP ON THE FIGHT...ON THE REST PAUSE SET I WANT YOU TO REALLY PUSH THE STRETCH DOWN THE BOTTOM AND THEN TRY TO EXPLODE UP TO THE BAR ON EVERY REP...AS ALWAYS THE STRETCH AND THE CONTROLLED NEGATIVE ARE THE KEYS TO YOUR SUCCESS
270 x 8 x 6 x 5 static hold 30s

Bent Over Row (Barbell)
BACK THICKNESS-2) DEADLIFTS FROM THE FLOOR...I ASSUME YOU KNOW THIS BUT I WANT YOU USEING AN OVERHAND GRIP WITH BOTH HANDS TO KEEP YOUR BI'S SAFE...THE UNDERHAND THAT A LOT OF GUYS USE IS GREAT FOR THE LIFT BUT CAN BE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS PLUS YOU SHOULD BE USING WRIST STRAPS SO THEIR IS NO REASON THAT YOU WILL NEED THE OVER UNDER GRIP...AFTER WARMING UP I WANT TWO ALL OUT SETS...THE FIRST WILL BE ONE ALL OUT SET OF 6-8 REPS AND THE SECOND WORKING SET WILL BE ONE ALL OUT SET OF 12-15 REPS.
245 x 6
205 x 13

Rear Delt Reverse Fly (Machine)
3 sets 10 - 15
2 count squeeze and 2 count stretch
100 x 15
120 x 11
120 x 11

Bicep Curl (Dumbbell)
BICEPS1)STANDING ALTERNATE DUMBELL CURL (WARMUP AND THEN USE YOUR WRIST STRAPS AND GRAB THE DUMBELLS SO YOUR GRIP DOESN'T GIVE OUT AT ALL)...WITH THESE I AM LOOKING FOR A RP SET OF 12-15 REPS PER ARM WITH A 4 COUNT NEGATIVE...OBVIOUSLY THE NEGATIVE IS KEY HERE AS IS NOT SWINGING THE WEIGHT TO THE TOP OF THE MOVEMENT...I NEED YOU TO FEEL YOUR BI'S WORKING THROUGHOUT...IF YOU DO THESE RIGHT SUCH A SIMPLE MOVEMENT WILL KICK YOUR ASS.
35 x 8 x 4 x 4

Preacher Curl (Barbell)
EZ BAR PREACHER CURLS...THIS IS AN EXTRA MOVEMENT THAT WILL BE DONE ON EACH ARM DAY AND I GUARANTEE YOU WILL LOVE TO HATE THESE!!...WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR IS ONE STRAIGHT SET OF 30 REPS...SOUNDS EASY ENOUGH BUT I PROMISE THAT IT IS NOT BECAUSE WE WILL BE COMPLETING EACH REP AS FOLLOWS: SQUEEZE THE WEIGHT UP TO THE VERY TOP...4 COUNT DECENT TO THE COMPLETELY STRETCHED POSITION...AT THE STRETCHED POSITION I WANT YOU HOLDING AT THE BOTTOM FOR A TWO COUNT...AT THIS POINT PUT A "HITCH" IN YOUR ELBOW SO THAT THEIR IS AN EVER SO SLIGHT BEND BEFORE CURLING THE WEIGHT BACK TO THE TOP AGAIN...ON THE FIRST DAY OF DOING THESE I WANT YOU USING A WEIGHT THAT IS LIGHTER THAN YOU THINK YOU SHOULD USE BECAUSE CHANCES ARE YOU WILL GUESS TO HEAVY...ALSO REMEMBER THAT YOUR SHOULDERS NEED TO STAY OUT OF THIS...IF THEY ARE ROLLING FORWARD AT THE BOTTOM OF EACH REP THEN YOU ARE CALLING ON THEIR STRENGTH WHEN CURLING BACK TO THE TOP....NOW, JUST LIKE WHAT YOU DID ON CHEST DAY WITH THE PECK DECK I WA
15 on ez bar x 30

Pinwheel Curl (Dumbbell)
PINWHEEL CURLS (DONE LIKE HAMMER CURLS BUT HANDS ARE HELD OUT 6 INCHES AWAY FROM THE SIDE OF THE BODY AND DUMBBELL IS CURLED IN AND UP A INCH AWAY FROM THE CHEST AND FINISHING NEAR YOUR EAR--THE PALM OF YOUR HAND IS GOING TO BE CURLING UP NEAR YOUR STOMACH AND CHEST (ABOUT AN INCH AWAY) WHILE CURLING THE DUMBBELL ALL THE WAY TILL ITS NEAR YOUR CHEEK ON SAME SIDE OF THE BODY...CONTRACT HARD AT THE TOP WITH THE BOTTOM PLATE OF THE DUMBBELL RIGHT NEAR YOUR CHIN---I WANT TWO STRAIGHT SETS OF 12-15 REPS HERE WITH A 3 COUNT NEGATIVE ON EACH REP
30 x 11
30 x 11

Dead Hang
ON THESE I WANT YOU DOING THE TYPICAL DC LAT STRETCH WHICH IS DONE BY PUTTING A HEAVY DB ONTO A DIP BELT AND STRAPPING INTO A PULL UP BAR BUT ONCE YOU GET INTO THE STRETCHED POSITION I JUST WANT YOU TO RELAX THERE AND BREATH...FOCUS ON LETTING THE LATS STRETCH ALL OF THE WAY INTO THE ARMPITS...AS YOU START TO GET TIRED YOU WILL FEEL THE NEED TO RESIST THE STRETCH BY PULLING UP...AT THAT POINT YOU NEED TO MENTALLY REMIND YOURSELF TO RELAX EVEN FURTHER INTO THE STRETCH. IN THE BEGINNING THESE WILL HURT YOUR HANDS AS MUCH OR MORE THAN YOU FEEL THEM IN THE LATS BUT TRUST ME IF YOU CAN HANG IN THERE LONG ENOUGH YOU WILL FORCE AN INSANE DEEP STRETCH IN THE LATS AND THIS WILL GET YOU WIDER THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE.
1 set 1:10

Stretching Biceps
I DO THIS STRETCH THE TRADITIONAL DC WAY BY FACING AWAY FROM A SMYTH RACK REACHING BOTH ARMS BACK TO THE HORIZONTAL BARBELL WITH PALMS FACING DOWN...STEP FEET FORWARD A HAIR AND SLOWLY SQUAT DOWN KEEPING YOUR ARMS LOCKED OUT AND HOLD THERE FOR 30-90 SEC...IF YOU DO NOT LOVE THESE FEEL FREE TO DO ANY BI STRETCH WHICH CAN ALSO BE DONE BY JUST GRABBING A BAR WITH PALM FACING A VERTICAL POST AND TWISTING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION WITH THE ELBOW LOCKED UNTIL YOU GET A DEEP STRETCH IN THE BI'S...ALSO HOLD FOR 30-90 SEC...AS LONG AS YOU CAN..STRETCHES ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO GROWTH..
1 set 1:10
 

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I do, I didn’t update that. I have been doing 4iu at night. I’m fighting a hell of a lot of water retention though. No high blood pressure but red face and lots of numbness in my hands.
Try to maintain a low salt intake with your foods! It will help like if you swell up alot!
 
Here we go! Pretty pumped about this cycle.

Been a long time since I was last excited to start a blast.
I made a change to my cycle plan. I’ll be running test deca and primo. Something I’ve never tried before.

Giving inno a spin this time
 

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Here we go! Pretty pumped about this cycle.

Been a long time since I was last excited to start a blast.
I made a change to my cycle plan. I’ll be running test deca and primo. Something I’ve never tried before.

Giving inno a spin this time
Inno started doing 10ml for test I always thought it was the small bottles that's what always made me look the other way
 
Must be exciting to kick off your new blast! Feels good to wait for the right moment, right? Haven't used Inno in a while either, makes me want to jump back in.

Remember you mentioned getting carpal tunnel from GH? I had that too. Nothing worked until I dropped my carbs and stopped insulin. I’d tried splitting shots, taking them all at once, even potassium, nothing helped until that change. Carpal tunnel vanished, and now I’m back on 12iu of GGC purple tops. Thought you might find that useful. Good luck with your blast!
 
Must be exciting to kick off your new blast! Feels good to wait for the right moment, right? Haven't used Inno in a while either, makes me want to jump back in.

Remember you mentioned getting carpal tunnel from GH? I had that too. Nothing worked until I dropped my carbs and stopped insulin. I’d tried splitting shots, taking them all at once, even potassium, nothing helped until that change. Carpal tunnel vanished, and now I’m back on 12iu of GGC purple tops. Thought you might find that useful. Good luck with your blast!
I’m still battling Gh sides. Carpel tunnel and red flushed face. I’ve dropped the Gh completely for now.

How does dropping the carbs help? I’m trying to grow. I feel like doing that would work against me
 
I’m still battling Gh sides. Carpel tunnel and red flushed face. I’ve dropped the Gh completely for now.

How does dropping the carbs help? I’m trying to grow. I feel like doing that would work against me
From my experience, cutting carbs was the key to getting rid of my inflammation. Even though I was on metformin and taking GLP-1 meds it was reducing the carbs that made the difference.

If I were you, I’d first drop the insulin and lower the carbs, then see if adding GH helps out. For me, GH is a must—without it, my body just won’t work right whether I'm bulking or cutting. I seriously rely on GH as staple in my routine.

When it comes to carbs, I suggest using them mainly around workouts and bumping up the protein. At the end of the day, it's all about calories in versus calories out. I’ve seen way better gains on a high-protein diet than when I was just loading up on carbs—extra protein eventually turns into glycogen anyway, and for me, that’s plenty of carbs. Plus, you don’t need a 1000-calorie surplus to grow, 250 to 500 extra calories over maintenance is where it's at.

This is just my personal experience, but not being inflamed is a game-changer, especially when you're trying to bulk without feeling like you're dying. Just my two cents.
 
Yesterday’s training, back biceps

Weight 218lbs
Test 375mg/week one injection on Mondays

Pullover (Dumbbell)
3 x 15 ramping up weight. Get a really good stretch in the lats

Lat Pulldown (Cable)
RP 25-30 6 count negative

T Bar Row
2 straight sets 10-12 brutal but keep form and negatives

Rear Delt Reverse Fly (Machine)
3 sets 15 2 count at the contraction and at the stretch. 4 count negative

Preacher Curl (Machine)
1 RP Set of 25 to 30

Preacher Curl (Barbell)
1 set of 30. 4 count negative, 2 count contraction and 2 count stretch

Hammer Curl (Dumbbell)
2 sets of 15, 4 count negative

Dead Hang
60 seconds to stretch the lats

Stretching Biceps
60 seconds
 
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