FitTrader transformation

FitTrader said:
Will be TRT for SEPT OCT NOV DEC JAN

Then came across this
Offseason "Lean Mode" Bulking Cycle:
Testosterone (Testoviron Depot); 250mg to 500mg
Weekly
Metenolone / Methenolone (Primobolan): 250mg to 500mg Weekly

Nandrolone / 19-Nortestosterone (Deca-Durabolin):
50mg to 200mg Weekly

Oxandrolone (Anavar); 5mg to 25mg Daily

Growth Hormone; 4iu to 8iu Daily Insulin-like Growth Factor-1 (IGF-1) LR3 or DES;
100mcg to 250mcg Bilaterally IM 30 to 60 Minutes Pre-WO or Rest Days, 1,400mcg to 3,500mcg Total Weekly

Creatine Monohydrate: 5,000mg

Could be interesting
Something different
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Look extremely lean and muscular. Do you mind me asking about your diet? I am not asking you to list meal by meal, but a general idea. I can't recall your weight/height - which is irrelevant to some degree as you good great. 220 at 20% vs. 190 at 10% - the guy who is 190 lbs may not look as big with a suit on, but put a T-shirt and shorts on and you do - or look better anyway.
Curious how many calories you eat a day and general macro break down, how many meals a day, and how many times a week you train? Do you change your calories and macros bases on training days vs. rest days?
If you don't want to disclose this info - no worries. Whatever you are doing is working!
 
What’s up been a while
Currently on trt

I did blood work and everything is very is good
Big thanks to @Goldenrod ti taking the time to help me go over it

Liver is healthy and optimal even with all the orals and active social life that includes alcohol but it’s not an all clear to continue that type of “abuse”

I was at
125mg cyp

But now I have pushed it to

Test cyp 250mg
Proviron 50mg
Tbol 20mg ( pre workout )
No ai

I would like to grow into 210-215 with more food and less drugs

So ideally get that size without abusing anabolic and improving appetite and calorie carb intake

HGH will be added at 4-6iu

Shape def is less crisp since dropping compounds and lowering dosages

I am lucky to have mast e and primo on hand but not sure if I will use it


Training split
More focus on back and delts
Hitting them twice a week

Also added more support supplements
Like kidney HD and berberine ( spelling )
 
FitTrader said:
What’s up been a while
Currently on trt

I did blood work and everything is very is good
Big thanks to @Goldenrod ti taking the time to help me go over it

Liver is healthy and optimal even with all the orals and active social life that includes alcohol but it’s not an all clear to continue that type of “abuse”

I was at
125mg cyp

But now I have pushed it to

Test cyp 250mg
Proviron 50mg
Tbol 20mg ( pre workout )
No ai

I would like to grow into 210-215 with more food and less drugs

So ideally get that size without abusing anabolic and improving appetite and calorie carb intake

HGH will be added at 4-6iu

Shape def is less crisp since dropping compounds and lowering dosages

I am lucky to have mast e and primo on hand but not sure if I will use it


Training split
More focus on back and delts
Hitting them twice a week

Also added more support supplements
Like kidney HD and berberine ( spelling )
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Welcome @FitTrader - considering your cycles, your blood was really good but you took time off to TRT. Many don't and don't give their body a chance to heal/recover. One comment I will make that is fact. You (don't mean you in particulat - you as in anyone) can do well with harsh cycles now - afterwards your liver/kidneys/lipids are all OK, but give it may be a few years and the symptoms pop up. Just like being an alcoholic - you may never have cirrhosis while you drink, but may get it in 10 years. These are not opinion based, they are medical based. You may be fine forever and the best you can do if you put the pedal down is be responsible like FitTrader and keep an eye on your bloods, urinalysis, and BP, etc. but it is no guarantee the damage hasn't been done but hasn't shown yet. Many people get ultrasounds after a few harsh cycles and their organs all look fine, cut down to TRT as they don't compete anymore and get another ultrasound in two years and their liver is enlarged with fatty infiltration, get they heart checked out with an ECHO and you find out you have an enlarged heart or right valve hypertrophy. Not trying to scare anyone. If you step on the gas and abuse PED's it is essential to do what FitTrader does and pay for medical tests and monitor your BP. Most know this but young people may not have the cash or consider this, if you don't, don't do PED's. Further, don't forget you may be infertile for ever no matter what you take after. I can list tons of guys whose better half was perfectly fine and they tried for years being completely off and no kids, but they used steroids for years. Coincidence, maybe but don't think so.
 
What’s up CB !

Check in for 2026

Have to admit October to December was rough
Opened a new bussiness got out of the flow
And lost muscle and routine
Felt ok bc of the trt but nowhere near the shape I maintained for about year and half

Since Jan 5th
Been on
Test cyp 375mg ( .5cc m w f)
Aromasin 12.5mg m w f


I experimented with 1mg Reta
I dropped it after week 4
I needed it for some insulin regulation and fat loss but i lost 4-6lb and i don’t think it aligned with my goals I was just being stubborn


For peptides
To combat my bicep tendonitis any ache and pains
Doing
Tb500 4mg a week
BPC 157 500mcg a day


Since yesterday
Started an energy stack to remove stimulants pre workout coffee etc


Semax 1mg
Motsc 1mg
Nad+ 50mg
SLU-pp 500mcg


My goal is getting ready for summer vacation and to re get in the grove of eating good training and keeping a lean hard physique but with a more strict diet
I got away with the drugs doing the work for me and I left a lot on the table


The vacation is 19 weeks from
Monday

So as of Monday

Test cyp 625mg
Npp 150mg
Dhb 150mg
No orals ( this was always stable in my other cycles)

Peptide above remain the same

AI:
will be 25mg aromasin eod
Caber .25 per week

starting accutane because acne been a
Battle on and off
With no direct correlation
Can be on high gear have 0 can b on trt and have a ton… can have clean diet and no break out and perfect diet and angry ones..
I used accutane when I was 19 and it worked well but now will be doing a low dose to really remove any skin issues
The stress accutane causes with the goal of longevity doesn’t allow orals in the picture

Supplements

Liver pro
Kidney HD
Glucose hd
Magnesium
Zinc
Multi vitamin

Goals : add lean muscle
Let food diet do more of the work
 
FitTrader said:
What’s up CB !

Check in for 2026

Have to admit October to December was rough
Opened a new bussiness got out of the flow
And lost muscle and routine
Felt ok bc of the trt but nowhere near the shape I maintained for about year and half

Since Jan 5th
Been on
Test cyp 375mg ( .5cc m w f)
Aromasin 12.5mg m w f


I experimented with 1mg Reta
I dropped it after week 4
I needed it for some insulin regulation and fat loss but i lost 4-6lb and i don’t think it aligned with my goals I was just being stubborn


For peptides
To combat my bicep tendonitis any ache and pains
Doing
Tb500 4mg a week
BPC 157 500mcg a day


Since yesterday
Started an energy stack to remove stimulants pre workout coffee etc


Semax 1mg
Motsc 1mg
Nad+ 50mg
SLU-pp 500mcg


My goal is getting ready for summer vacation and to re get in the grove of eating good training and keeping a lean hard physique but with a more strict diet
I got away with the drugs doing the work for me and I left a lot on the table


The vacation is 19 weeks from
Monday

So as of Monday

Test cyp 625mg
Npp 150mg
Dhb 150mg
No orals ( this was always stable in my other cycles)

Peptide above remain the same

AI:
will be 25mg aromasin eod
Caber .25 per week

starting accutane because acne been a
Battle on and off
With no direct correlation
Can be on high gear have 0 can b on trt and have a ton… can have clean diet and no break out and perfect diet and angry ones..
I used accutane when I was 19 and it worked well but now will be doing a low dose to really remove any skin issues
The stress accutane causes with the goal of longevity doesn’t allow orals in the picture

Supplements

Liver pro
Kidney HD
Glucose hd
Magnesium
Zinc
Multi vitamin

Goals : add lean muscle
Let food diet do more of the work
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Hey @FitTrader - Congrats on the new business, takes fortitude to have the confidence in yourself/take the plunge and make it work. Hard from a training perspective if you work by appointments due to your clients until you get a routine down.

I just started my first peptide stack in eons just over a week ago - more injury prevention vs. healing. I want to do more bag work for cardio and it is hard on the shoulders. I used to live on BPC157 and TB500 thrown in for a few months of the year / copper peptide 2 mg a day for 3-6 months. I have noticed a difference in recovery after weights and then a 15 minutes HB session in their MMA section. Not sure if Anaconda Fightwear would have anything that would help you, but their gear is used by guys lifting weights too. I use the shoulder braces when I have a longer heavy-bag session, after weights.

Your bicep tendonitis - have you had an ultrasound or MRI? If I recall correct, this has been lingering for a long time for you. Just curious if this is self or doctor diagnosed due to an opinion of a radiologist. I had tendonitits and a partially torn tendon before - both required the same rehab - stretches / strengthening exercises, but there was no way I could tell the difference if it wasn't for the MRI's.
Do you mind explaining the Reta for a month due to insulin issues? How did you know you had insulin issues - how you felt/ or via testing your blood, and was there a side effect that made you drop it? I hope the peptides help your bicep heal. I know what lingering injuries are like and they are a psychological hurdle for training. You don't see many guys being honest and stating what you did - "I got away with the drugs doing the work for me and I left a lot on the table." Nice to read from a respected member.
Thanks for the update!
 
FitTrader said:
What’s up been a while
Currently on trt

I did blood work and everything is very is good
Big thanks to @Goldenrod ti taking the time to help me go over it

Liver is healthy and optimal even with all the orals and active social life that includes alcohol but it’s not an all clear to continue that type of “abuse”

I was at
125mg cyp

But now I have pushed it to

Test cyp 250mg
Proviron 50mg
Tbol 20mg ( pre workout )
No ai

I would like to grow into 210-215 with more food and less drugs

So ideally get that size without abusing anabolic and improving appetite and calorie carb intake

HGH will be added at 4-6iu

Shape def is less crisp since dropping compounds and lowering dosages

I am lucky to have mast e and primo on hand but not sure if I will use it


Training split
More focus on back and delts
Hitting them twice a week

Also added more support supplements
Like kidney HD and berberine ( spelling )
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In a previous post I believe you said you were running IGF1-LR3? Now switching to HGH.

I'm on a low dose (2iu daily) of HGH, mostly for tendon, skin/collagen support. I do have some IGF1-LR3 on hand that I might deploy later this year if I need a push. I'm just curious to hear about your experience with it.

btw I had some pretty bad elbow/tendon pain last year and started running healing blend (BPC-157 + TB-500), and i tell you that stuff really works! In addition to my elbow, my other aches and pains have greatly subsided.
 
@Goldenrod
Bicep tendonitis is new
Happened in November

The tricep is the tear from 2023
That took me fully out then the recovery part was when I used tb BPC for the first time
After taking 8 months off training

I did an ultra sound that time no mri and just let it recover
There is a change in the shape of the tricep but I am able to train without issues

I should of monitored my blood glucose
To see the Reta change on the 5.8 hb1ac

@vancity88
I ran gh at 8iu early last year
For 4 months I believe
It was amazing but I didn’t properly mange my blood glucose and I think that caused some issues

Igf1-lr3 I used in 2014
100mcg in the am
When I was contest prepping and it was amazing
Pumps fullness etc

I will not be using gh this time around

Igf1 HGH and insulin all together havw given me amazing results in the past

100mcg - 2iu - insulin I forgot dosage but was post workout on back and leg day

Goal for igf1 is pump and endurance
Replacing orals
If you look back ( super . Anadrol . Tbol .halo) was something I always used but I don’t think I need it anymore or should be fuckijg around with it lol same with tren
 
Ok so here we go

That 6 weeks routine building got me back in the flow

Phase 1 was getting diet in check get workouts in , recovery from tendonitis , and stop looking soft
Was using test cyp 375mg per week
With 12.5mg aromasin

So entering phase 2 of 3 for vacation
Phase 2 week 1-3
Phase 2.1 week 4-10
Phase 3 week 10-18

Carbs : 250-350 grams
Getting in 5-7 meals a day
Appetite is on point

Starting weight phase 2 : 197lb

( was down to 188 on Reta on week 4 )

Supplements :
Vitamin D3 7000iu ( w/ fats am)
Vitamin k2 270mcg ( w/ fats am )
Berberine 500mg ( 3x a day with meal)
Creatine monohydrate 15g a day
Kidney HD
Liver Pro Savage Labs
Magnisum 500mg ( pre bed )
Zinc

Medication:
Accutane 20mg

Peptides :
Waiting to restock on the energy stack
Lowered my dosages of TB and BPC
( important to keep for joint health with accutane )

Protocol :

Test cyp 625mg
Npp 150mg
Dhb 150mg
Aromasin 25mg eod
Caber

Approach : get more more with less , receptors fresh since off anything but test since Sept 15th , lean muscle gain nothing too sudden , Dhb will be adjusted based on PIP, npp always works well with me but also starting it slow. Usually run both of these at 300mg. trying to stay under 1g total this time

Cardio :
Treadmill and spinning

Workouts :
5-6 days
Back hit twice
Delts hit twice

And yes phase 3 involves tren haha
 
Update

Phase 2

So did
Phase 1

Test 625mg
Npp 150mg
Dhb 150mg

Now I am in on week 2 of phase 2

Test 625mg
Npp 300mg
Dhb 300mg
12.5mg aromasin EOD
Caber .25 twice a week

Starting weight was 195-200
Went down to 188 with the Reta
And now I am sitting at 202 in the am
The clear results are seen are 202 right now and 200 in January is night and day

The fact 200 Jan was so soft is the main downside to now having better results faster

Bigger fuller but i not lean

I’ve added mass that’s for sure
Shoulder chest fullness
Back is thicker
But missing that crisp detail that I usually have ( nothing like photos previously posted )

I am eating more then before
Before was eating like a bird missing meals and lean because of the drugs

Now I really feel the food is working in terms of added size
Getting in 200g protein a day and +/- 300g carbs

When stripping away some carbs we will see the real gains
Still getting in 1-2 cheat meals and cardio isn’t as high as I would like because of schedule but will adjust when carb cycling

Not using bpc and tb at the moment

Did not start the igf1

Not using gh

Peptides
Nad+
Semax
Motsc
But run out quickly so it’s a bit of a bitch being consistent

Switched to daily shots

Will do blood work to see where e2 is
No estrogen side and acne is under controlled with the accutane

Truthfully I am not a genetic freak as much as i wanna be but 150mg npp and 150mg Dhb is not enough
 
And here we go

Test 500mg per week
Tren 50mg eod
Adex 1mg eod
Caber .25 twice a week

This is for 11 weeks

At week 6

Swap test cyp for test prop
Add mast prop
At a 1:1:1 ratio for all 3

Clen an option
Anavar an option
Win not good with accurate
But Not sure for orals

Goal June 22 - 3 week vacation


Blood work on accurate and on cycle so far so good
Close to trt bloods pre accutane

Morning weight 205-207
Not lean

From 188 to 205 ( variance of 17lb)

I’d be happy 195-200 rock solid as usual but with added muscle tissue

Let’s see how it goes

Carb cycling
Low days now 60-100g
Before was 300g a day with 1-3 cheats

Might try Tessamorelin
1mg m-f

Pre bed
2h fasted min
 
Ok so some fine tuning

Per week

Tren E 200mg
Tren ace 200mg

Switching to test prop next week @ 400mg
Adding clen 25mcg 2 days on 1 day off

Potentially adding mast e or mast prop
Have some old supply

Happy I got some pharma caber on hand
Taking .25 twice week

Body changing daily
Very happy
But still a way to go before freak factor status
 
FitTrader said:
Ok so some fine tuning

Per week

Tren E 200mg
Tren ace 200mg

Switching to test prop next week @ 400mg
Adding clen 25mcg 2 days on 1 day off

Potentially adding mast e or mast prop
Have some old supply

Happy I got some pharma caber on hand
Taking .25 twice week

Body changing daily
Very happy
But still a way to go before freak factor status
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Tren A 50mg EOD?
 
Slartibartfast said:
Awesome. I've made some pretty drastic changes myself over the last 18 months. Keep posting, it's good for everyone's motivation and you deserve the credit for putting in all the hard work.

Looking excellent. (y)
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I get you both mixed up because your pics look similar lol
 
FitTrader said:
Thanks bro
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FitTrader said:
What’s up CB

posting this for some motivation for people who felt the same way I did and how it is possible to fix things and bounce back

As you know from my display pic I’ve always loved the sport and juicing but I stopped juicing for 3 years ( too long to explain why) and I thought I could recover naturally but my test never got over 8-12 nmol from the age of 26 to 29. 2018-2021. Also throw in Quebec and covid lockdown and no gym and etc just nothing in there and yeah you got yourself a sad , angry person wirh bad habits and no diet no drive no motivation. Sprinkle a toxic relationship in the mix and you have picture 1 which is March 2021.

Started trt November 2021 things started getting better. Then life happens so was never able to get a grip on good trianing , dieting and overall health.

Fast forward 2023
Changed my mindset , my attitude towards life and left my shit relationship and the rest fell into place.
I also stopped the it’s all or nothing attitude that when I cycle I must be 100% and when I’m off cycle I can do whatever I want and eat bad drink etc

I found a proper balance that is healthy and allows me to enjoy life and still look good

Controlling your hormones is one thing
But your whole life around you has the biggest impact. There are people on this forum who have dealt with things much more severe then I can ever imagine but what’s important is to always keep your head up for yourself and the people around you.

I’ll share the cycle diet etc if anyone interested
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Are you prescribed TRT? Mine was also 12 but my doctor said not low enough for a prescription so I had to take it into my own hands. I was off for 2 years with a score of 12 and I felt like total dogshit. Could barely make it through a 12 hour shift, then I’d sleep from the time I got home till I had to get up again and I never felt rested what so ever. From what I can tell, 12 is considered very low, but I think my age played a factor (mid 30s) or they don’t make as much off prescribing test as they do with other garbage the like to push
 
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