Back injury severe pain

Stiranko

Stiranko

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Has anyone ever suggested from a back injury that is so painful it just hurts anything you do.

I have no clue what I did, but last Monday I woke up with severe lower back pain and the pain had gotten worst and it's been 11 days today. I can't bend down to get dressed, I have a hard time going to toilet, the pain is so severe, I can't even do any cardio or even use machines at the gym.

I did see the Dr and did xrays and it just shows back pain, but feels like hell. The most pinfukianwhan I sit down and get up. The pain is so severe it feels like I'm being stabbed in the back and freeze for a couple.od minutes.

Ive had back pain before, but this is insane. I did take some tylenol for pain as well as naproxen on different days and nothing helps. Not even high dosages. This is annoying as hell.

Has anyone had such back problems so painful to the point on putting your entire life on pause. Just curious.
 
The Old Guy said:
Yes

Chiro can help but need the right chiro as well as once it’s better lots of stretching and myofascial release

Sounds funny but get a lacrosse ball and roll the bottoms of your feet on it it for about 2 mins each.
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I've actually been seeing the same chiro for 15 years and he has always done an amazing job. This is the first time he says it's much more complicated and says it's something else that is causing this. He adjusted my back and also went to my massage therapist for some deep tissue massage, but nothing seems to be helping me. The crazy thing is that I had no idea what I did. The day before I was fine and when I woke up , my back was a mess. Very strange. I will try the lacrosse ball. Thanks for the suggestion .
 
Yes, I've been there. I know exactly what you're going through. It can be completely debilitating.
Mine was a result of a bulge at my t4-t5. Unfortunately there wasn't anything that could be done for me. Surgery wasn't an option. Had to deal with the pain until the inflammation settled, then discern the triggers to avoid. My training has had to evolve as a result.
I did go through a couple vials of bpc, tb and ckh and I will continue to use it throughout the future. It helped for sure. I went through the physical therapy side of it as well, it provided some relief but you'll likely only see benefit of there are discrepancies. Most of the time there are anyway so it's worth going through it and keeping up on the exercise etc.
God bless, I know it is tough.
 
Thanks for the info. It's definitely very annoying especially limiting my training so much. I will wait it out and start some more physio starting tomorrow.
 
Dude hammer the bpc and tb. I used tb for the first time after prescription meds let me down for my lower back pain. I honestly believe it cured my pain after 20 years of just thinking it was my new normal. I’m over a year now completely pain free and I only did 20 day protocol injection every second day.
 
Traction on a decline bench at first. Don’t go extreme, not an inversion table.

Also I would lay on my stomach with a pillow under my chest every day for 3 minutes. You need to rollout of both things, not just sit straight up.

While watching tv, lay down on your side.

Avoid anything that has your back curve outwards, like the cat arch.

If it is a disc issue, you want to gently move the disc back in, it will take time, traction on the de line bench and sitting on your elbows a few times a day is a start.

Do nerve flossing techniques. You can look those up on you tube.

I also would sleep with an ice pack under my tailbone area. Helps to bring down inflimation.

It will take time to calm the nerves. But you still gotta keep moving, worse thing you can do is lay around.
 
Sometrtdude said:
Dude hammer the bpc and tb. I used tb for the first time after prescription meds let me down for my lower back pain. I honestly believe it cured my pain after 20 years of just thinking it was my new normal. I’m over a year now completely pain free and I only did 20 day protocol injection every second day.
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Thanks for the info..I will definitely look into it 👍
 
Yes, a few times and rest at first was the only remedy other than being is such pain - I was prescribed narcotic pain meds for a short term so I could sleep. Few things are as bad as back pain - can't sit, can't sleep, hard to get dressed and you move like a robot in slow motion.

These can just subside if you rest, and get help from someone who can diagnose your issue like a rehabilitation specialist. Chiro, osteopaths, massage therapy, acupuncture - I have tried everything and the only thing that helped was one chiropractor and one osteopath who could get things back in alignment. Problem was my muscles were in contraction, I had to take a mild muscle relaxer and get massage to get the muscles to relax or it just pulled me out of alignment by the next day.
That is assuming you don't have a serious issue like @Rhyno did as he wrote about it above. X-rays see bones and can see bone spurs but are not great. You need a CT scan or even better a MRI to check for ligament/tendon/muscle issues, spine issues, it usually takes a MRI or CT scan to properly diagnose a herniated disk. All the same the surgery is dangerous to fix if you can find a surgeon to do it, one small mistake and they cut a nerve and there can be very serious results.
Most docs will give you medication in the short term and recommend therapy. I went this route but I have two disks that are slightly twisted and 20 years ago a surgeon said if it gets too bad they will most likely fuse the two together which will lead to less mobility and issues later in life, but at the time I considered it, but just spent money working with a Chiro/Massage therapist and still do. I hate medication but at times they are needed in the acute phase.

Few things you can do to determine what may be going on:
1. You can buy robaxin which is just methocarbamol with no tylenol or NAID. It is a decent muscle relaxer and do yourself a favour and go to the Mayo clinic and look up dosages for injuries. The amount on a normal bottle is on the much safer/low dosage. If you find this helps, you may have muscles pulling on your spine putting your bach/hips out of alignment and hitting nerves.
2. I hate NSAIDS and will always pick cod liver oil, but facts are facts - a healthy dose of IBUprofen is a potent anti-inflammatory (with risks), and short term will hinder healing, but may help diagnose. I know small women who run marathons who once a month take 800-1200 mg in one dosage from pretty severe pain from over training. Not recommended long term as bleeding/ulcers and contradictions (make sure you check if any other meds can mix with anything your take with negative side effects). I had severe back pain, at the hospital and the first thing the Doc did was give me 800 mg of IBUprofen and leave me for an hour and ask if I had any relief - nope, I did not so he didn't think it was inflammation. At the same time he was getting blood drawn and checking inflammatory markers, etc.
3. Be your own advocate - see your doctor and demand to see an orthaepedic surgeon who deal with these injuries all the time. They aren't going to immediately want to cut you - they will want a difinitive diagnosis and they have more pull if you are in agony that a regular GP as they are at the hospitals all the time doing surgery and usually know the radiologists.

Sorry you are going through this - I hope you figure it out. Keep us updated please.
 
Yep. Only had traumatic injury a few times but now latest mri says degenerative disease at with impingement L3, 4 and 5 on both sides but centre is clear. Same as you this time, didn't "do" anything other than live another year.
Truly wish I had some magic words of wisdom for ya but idk much other than what's already been said here. Chiro and traction both help me and often, too often, pain meds and supps. I actually spend a fair bit of time on mobility work these days, there are only so may hours in a day but it all too often means the difference of those hours being like you describe or actually functional.
On the upside (?) it's one more thing that makes me more like Ronnie Coleman
 
Goldenrod said:
Yes, a few times and rest at first was the only remedy other than being is such pain - I was prescribed narcotic pain meds for a short term so I could sleep. Few things are as bad as back pain - can't sit, can't sleep, hard to get dressed and you move like a robot in slow motion.

These can just subside if you rest, and get help from someone who can diagnose your issue like a rehabilitation specialist. Chiro, osteopaths, massage therapy, acupuncture - I have tried everything and the only thing that helped was one chiropractor and one osteopath who could get things back in alignment. Problem was my muscles were in contraction, I had to take a mild muscle relaxer and get massage to get the muscles to relax or it just pulled me out of alignment by the next day.
That is assuming you don't have a serious issue like @Rhyno did as he wrote about it above. X-rays see bones and can see bone spurs but are not great. You need a CT scan or even better a MRI to check for ligament/tendon/muscle issues, spine issues, it usually takes a MRI or CT scan to properly diagnose a herniated disk. All the same the surgery is dangerous to fix if you can find a surgeon to do it, one small mistake and they cut a nerve and there can be very serious results.
Most docs will give you medication in the short term and recommend therapy. I went this route but I have two disks that are slightly twisted and 20 years ago a surgeon said if it gets too bad they will most likely fuse the two together which will lead to less mobility and issues later in life, but at the time I considered it, but just spent money working with a Chiro/Massage therapist and still do. I hate medication but at times they are needed in the acute phase.

Few things you can do to determine what may be going on:
1. You can buy robaxin which is just methocarbamol with no tylenol or NAID. It is a decent muscle relaxer and do yourself a favour and go to the Mayo clinic and look up dosages for injuries. The amount on a normal bottle is on the much safer/low dosage. If you find this helps, you may have muscles pulling on your spine putting your bach/hips out of alignment and hitting nerves.
2. I hate NSAIDS and will always pick cod liver oil, but facts are facts - a healthy dose of IBUprofen is a potent anti-inflammatory (with risks), and short term will hinder healing, but may help diagnose. I know small women who run marathons who once a month take 800-1200 mg in one dosage from pretty severe pain from over training. Not recommended long term as bleeding/ulcers and contradictions (make sure you check if any other meds can mix with anything your take with negative side effects). I had severe back pain, at the hospital and the first thing the Doc did was give me 800 mg of IBUprofen and leave me for an hour and ask if I had any relief - nope, I did not so he didn't think it was inflammation. At the same time he was getting blood drawn and checking inflammatory markers, etc.
3. Be your own advocate - see your doctor and demand to see an orthaepedic surgeon who deal with these injuries all the time. They aren't going to immediately want to cut you - they will want a difinitive diagnosis and they have more pull if you are in agony that a regular GP as they are at the hospitals all the time doing surgery and usually know the radiologists.

Sorry you are going through this - I hope you figure it out. Keep us updated please.
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Thank you very much. Very helpful information. I will definitely look into a few of those suggestions. Thanks again. will keep everyone posted within couple of weeks. (y)
 
gondar1 said:
Yep. Only had traumatic injury a few times but now latest mri says degenerative disease at with impingement L3, 4 and 5 on both sides but centre is clear. Same as you this time, didn't "do" anything other than live another year.
Truly wish I had some magic words of wisdom for ya but idk much other than what's already been said here. Chiro and traction both help me and often, too often, pain meds and supps. I actually spend a fair bit of time on mobility work these days, there are only so may hours in a day but it all too often means the difference of those hours being like you describe or actually functional.
On the upside (?) it's one more thing that makes me more like Ronnie Coleman
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yeah, this sucks for sure. I have an new MRI appointment tomorrow as I have only done scans and ultrasounds so far. The MRI might reveal a bit more. Will keep you posted. But lacking mobility definitely makes life much harder. I will never take my back for granted ever again that's for sure.
 
Hey man,

You will have all your answers with the MRI for sure but I can see a typical back tweak. I used to suffer them very often, sometimes even picking up a 5lb plate. The one you mentioned sounds like one of those I had when everything is fine until the muscle finally relaxes and then you have the severe contracture next day because you spine muscles react and stiffen up like a rock to protect the spine and discs from a previous trauma.

Don’t panic… Sometimes they last 3-6 months for you to feel 100% again, I hope it’s not your case because it really frekkng sucks. The pain is so intense that you can’t even take a dump or sit for too long, you have to walk like someone with a severe injury and you just want to be laying at home, don’t do it, try to stay moderately active.

Recover soon!
 
I did have such a bad back issue many years ago that I couldn't even get in and out of my car. If I layed down on a flat bench or bed, I needed help getting up. I literally would hear it pop in and out and I would walk hunched over a lot of the time.

I eventually met the right chiro. Turned out the whole issue was extremely tight glutes. Sounds stupid, but it was what was causing the back pain. I got into a regimen of daily stretching glutes, rolling them out.

Now it's habitual, and maintenance, never had a problem again.

Although your issue could be completely different, I'd try to find the right chiro, also don't just focus on the back, it could be tight hams, glutes, calves, etc causing the issue.
 
powerrack said:
I did have such a bad back issue many years ago that I couldn't even get in and out of my car. If I layed down on a flat bench or bed, I needed help getting up. I literally would hear it pop in and out and I would walk hunched over a lot of the time.

I eventually met the right chiro. Turned out the whole issue was extremely tight glutes. Sounds stupid, but it was what was causing the back pain. I got into a regimen of daily stretching glutes, rolling them out.

Now it's habitual, and maintenance, never had a problem again.

Although your issue could be completely different, I'd try to find the right chiro, also don't just focus on the back, it could be tight hams, glutes, calves, etc causing the issue.
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Glad you were able to fix that problem. As for me, I actually had a chiro for years that I go to one a month both in Montreal and Miami where I spend my winters. Both have been extremely helpful for years.

However This is the very first time my back has been in this much pain. Not even the chiro knows why. I actually went for an MRI. Will be getting the results today.
 
Stiranko said:
Glad you were able to fix that problem. As for me, I actually had a chiro for years that I go to one a month both in Montreal and Miami where I spend my winters. Both have been extremely helpful for years.

However This is the very first time my back has been in this much pain. Not even the chiro knows why. I actually went for an MRI. Will be getting the results today.
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You get those results brother? How you making out now? It's been about a week. Hopefully a lot better!
 
Stiranko said:
Glad you were able to fix that problem. As for me, I actually had a chiro for years that I go to one a month both in Montreal and Miami where I spend my winters. Both have been extremely helpful for years.

However This is the very first time my back has been in this much pain. Not even the chiro knows why. I actually went for an MRI. Will be getting the results today.
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Go to a good physiotherapist and have them put you in traction. That’s always been the most beneficial treatment when I have injured my back.
 
backintime said:
You get those results brother? How you making out now? It's been about a week. Hopefully a lot better!
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Hello. Yes I got the results. I actually have degenerative disk disease which is why it's causing this extreme pain. I've been doing physio 2 times a week. I song take any painting killers and pain is there. But more manageable through physio.

I am able to train light on the seated leg press and leg extension. Everything I do for now is seated when it comes to weights and I am able to do some incline speed walk and the elliptical at low to moderate resistance. Getting better each week. But will take some time to be back to normal or at least normal enough to be fully functional. No idea how this injury happened. But Dr said it's most likely wear and tear over the years.

I'm 47. Nut I've been doing extreme training for over 30 years. I've done multiple full pro Ironmans, strength training, obstacle courses and even a few ultra marathons over the years. This take a huge tole on the body I guess.
 
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