Ancillaries on tren

INDIA PHARMA BABY. I don’t do these prescription based meds from UGL or CN. Either pharma grade or none. I like to know I am actually taking what I am taking specifically when it comes to these ancillaries, a must. This stack is mainly when I am really pushing and blasting the Tren other wise debatable or lessened if the dose is reasonable, respectable and tolerable.

Subjective. Tren sides lesser heavily for me and most when the other way around. 250 Test base at the upper most, ideally 200 personally, while my Tren can go up to a gram “tolerably”, i keep my Tren 3-5x the test ratio, and get away just fine. No caber. No ai. If I run it the other way around, I might as well just jump off a bridge. Once again, it’s all subjective.

I said goodbye to PG a decade ago. If you know you know. No disrespect to them as I have used them in my domestic amateur hunt days just fine until what I thought was real became real somewhere else.

Cheers!
I just run test at trt, no matter what I run tren at. I’m 55, I’m nit running a gram of tren anymore, lol
 
For tren i like

Telemasartin for bp, kidneys, heart

Nebivolol for heart and for dropping the cns stimulation down which itself is brain and cardiotoxic

Empagliflozin in order to protect the kidneys from fibrosis and improve mitochondrial function in the heart

Finerenone to block the leak in the raas cascade that no ace or arb can cover via the MR. Thus preventing both heart and kidney fibrosis. MR activation in brain is neurotoxic so this alleviates another pathway

I like Pentoxifylline as it nukes all inflammation markers, improves ejection fraction 10%, allows deep oxygenation of organs and tissues, reduces anxiety and increases bdnf

Cialis for no production and bloodflow

Repatha and ezetimide to nuke ldl and apo b

Fluovaxamine for raising seratonin which anabolics lower, sigma 1 receptor agonism that protects the brain, anxiety reduction via regulating nmda receptors and thus preventing exitotoxicity in brain. It reduces anxiety further by ramping up production of allo p, it ramps up melatonin, and helps increase sleep via orexin. The seratonin and sigma 1 potentiate long term neurogensis healing damaged brain regions.

Dual action melatonin for its ability to clear amloyd plaque and aid sleep + anti-oxident benefits

Davigo for sleep along with clearing tau proteins that risk alzhimers

Hgh at 10iu for neurogenesis and sleep

I think its also important to run dht no ester or dht e or dht prop or cream or proviron along with tren in order to ensure adequate neurosteroids especially the anxiolytic ones. Mast and primo can work but are far less efficient dur to resistance to 5ar etc.

Other great options include memantine and donepezil for neurotoxicity inhibition

Otherwise magnesium bis, glycine, creatine, l theanine, taurine, tmg, pqq, co q 10, ala, vit e, gluathione, tudca, nac, pea, fish oil etc etc etc
 
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For tren i like

Telemasartin for bp, kidneys, heart

Nebivolol for heart and for dropping the cns stimulation down which itself is brain and cardiotoxic

Empagliflozin in order to protect the kidneys from fibrosis and improve mitochondrial function in the heart

Finerenone to block the leak in the raas cascade that no ace or arb can cover via the MR. Thus preventing both heart and kidney fibrosis. MR activation in brain is neurotoxic so this alleviates another pathway

I like Pentoxifylline as it nukes all inflammation markers, improves ejection fraction 10%, allows deep oxygenation of organs and tissues, reduces anxiety and increases bdnf

Cialis for no production and bloodflow

Repatha and ezetimide to nuke ldl and apo b

Fluovaxamine for raising seratonin which anabolics lower, sigma 1 receptor agonism that protects the brain, anxiety reduction via regulating nmda receptors and thus preventing exitotoxicity in brain. It reduces anxiety further by ramping up production of allo p, it ramps up melatonin, and helps increase sleep via orexin. The seratonin and sigma 1 potentiate long term neurogensis healing damaged brain regions.

Dual action melatonin for its ability to clear amloyd plaque and aid sleep + anti-oxident benefits

Davigo for sleep along with clearing tau proteins that risk alzhimers

Hgh at 10iu for neurogenesis and sleep

I think its also important to run dht no ester or dht e or dht prop or cream or proviron along with tren in order to ensure adequate neurosteroids especially the anxiolytic ones. Mast and primo can work but are far less efficient dur to resistance to 5ar etc.

Other great options include memantine and donepezil for neurotoxicity inhibition

Otherwise magnesium bis, glycine, creatine, l theanine, taurine, tmg, pqq, co q 10, ala, vit e, gluathione, tudca, nac, pea, fish oil etc etc etc
You take all those prescription meds every time you incorporate tren? Or only when at high dosage?
 
For tren i like

Telemasartin for bp, kidneys, heart

Nebivolol for heart and for dropping the cns stimulation down which itself is brain and cardiotoxic

Empagliflozin in order to protect the kidneys from fibrosis and improve mitochondrial function in the heart

Finerenone to block the leak in the raas cascade that no ace or arb can cover via the MR. Thus preventing both heart and kidney fibrosis. MR activation in brain is neurotoxic so this alleviates another pathway

I like Pentoxifylline as it nukes all inflammation markers, improves ejection fraction 10%, allows deep oxygenation of organs and tissues, reduces anxiety and increases bdnf

Cialis for no production and bloodflow

Repatha and ezetimide to nuke ldl and apo b

Fluovaxamine for raising seratonin which anabolics lower, sigma 1 receptor agonism that protects the brain, anxiety reduction via regulating nmda receptors and thus preventing exitotoxicity in brain. It reduces anxiety further by ramping up production of allo p, it ramps up melatonin, and helps increase sleep via orexin. The seratonin and sigma 1 potentiate long term neurogensis healing damaged brain regions.

Dual action melatonin for its ability to clear amloyd plaque and aid sleep + anti-oxident benefits

Davigo for sleep along with clearing tau proteins that risk alzhimers

Hgh at 10iu for neurogenesis and sleep

I think its also important to run dht no ester or dht e or dht prop or cream or proviron along with tren in order to ensure adequate neurosteroids especially the anxiolytic ones. Mast and primo can work but are far less efficient dur to resistance to 5ar etc.

Other great options include memantine and donepezil for neurotoxicity inhibition

Otherwise magnesium bis, glycine, creatine, l theanine, taurine, tmg, pqq, co q 10, ala, vit e, gluathione, tudca, nac, pea, fish oil etc etc etc
pentoxifylline for ejection fraction increase… where did you find data that suggests that? it’s not used routinely in any heart failure patient i’ve dealt with.
 
pentoxifylline for ejection fraction increase… where did you find data that suggests that? it’s not used routinely in any heart failure patient i’ve dealt with.
"After adjustment for differences at baseline, pentoxifylline treatment produced an increase in radionuclide ejection fraction over the study period compared with the placebo-treated group (Table 2; Figure 1). The mean change in ejection fraction from baseline to 6 months was 9.2±11.4 in the pentoxifylline group versus 1.1±4.2 in the placebo group. Furthermore, at 6 months, radionuclide ejection fraction was greater in the pentoxifylline-treated than the placebo-treated group"


You are 100% correct its not a typical treatment for HF in north american though in the eastern block it was used like candy haha
 
I just run test at trt, no matter what I run tren at. I’m 55, I’m nit running a gram of tren anymore, lol
I ran a normal 500mg test and then 400mg of Tren for my first tren cycle. This thread kinda makes me smile because I came to some of the same conclusions before seeing this.

Next cycle will be 150 test and 400 Tren. I felt the test was way too high and causing me to retain too much water, specifically in my abdomen. Felt like I had a GH bubble gut like I had been on GH for 10 years 😂
 
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I ran a normal 500mg test and then 400mg of Tren for my first tren cycle. This thread kinda makes me smile because I came to some of the same conclusions before seeing this.

Next cycle will be 150 test and 400 Tren. I felt the test was way too high and causing me to retain too much water, specifically in my abdomen. Felt like I had a GH bubble gut like I had been on GH for 10 years 😂
This is some pretty ingenious shit. I have admit its interesting but way over my head. How the fuck do you know all this shit? You might have already mentioned it but whats your line of work?
 
I ran a normal 500mg test and then 400mg of Tren for my first tren cycle. This thread kinda makes me smile because I came to some of the same conclusions before seeing this.

Next cycle will be 150 test and 400 Tren. I felt the test was way too high and causing me to retain too much water, specifically in my abdomen. Felt like I had a GH bubble gut like I had been on GH for 10 years 😂
Hey dont post this. Dont give away how to run tren without sides LOL
 
only side I had with tren was the insomnia, DSIP .5mg and 30mg melatonin + magnesium thereonate or whatever it’s called helped me fix it by like 90%
 
This is some pretty ingenious shit. I have admit its interesting but way over my head. How the fuck do you know all this shit? You might have already mentioned it but whats your line of work?
I sense sarcasm but... Lol... Just saying I'll take less test next time... I always pair everything with 500 test, but I didn't think it worked well, at that dose, with Tren.
 
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