You are correct, there is a lot of unintelligent people.
Abnormal PED usage
- Thread starter Goldenrod
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No idea if I will regret it later in life but I do not exceed 250 mg a week of combined PED's (plus periodic use of peptides and script HGH). No one can convince me this is not enough. If that was the case, why would anyone ever take creatine or intra / pre / post workout products as none can hold a candle to 150 mg of Deca/NPP or Primo (two of my favourite compounds) added to TRT.
I am not looking for a medal but I never exceeded 500 mg on an 8 week pyramid cycle when I was younger 200, 300, 400, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100 (done). Not looking for a pat on the back, just what all the doormen and private security guys I worked with did a few times a year. In 8 weeks you could get a boost and push through weight you couldn't otherwise/add some extra size and if you were smart keep a decent amount of it - there was no PCT as the availability was not there.
It was typically one compound and life was not like it is today. We simply did not do large dosages and I suspect that is why I respond well to 150 mg of another compound over a 3-4 month period.
No questions high dosage - bigger muscles / stronger, etc. There is enough data to show bodybuilding ends in health issues when guys push it. Well known body builders and not so well known body builders and mortality earlier than expected.
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Also read many people had hearts / livers twice the normal weight/size that a person of that age/weight should have.
I am conservative but the first to admit I love 150 mg of Primo and 2 IU of script HGH on top of TRT - no question I am stronger, have better workouts and recover quicker than the regular 100 mg of TRT.
This never ending increasing dosages or adding another compound in order for this cycle to be as good as the last is complete dangerous and not required especially for the average guy who doesn't make money on their body / they pay to get it.
Just another perspective - for guys reaching for the golden apple: I don't think you can do it in the same manner as I describe but I am not reaching for the golden apple of stage / standing on a podium.
I am not looking for a medal but I never exceeded 500 mg on an 8 week pyramid cycle when I was younger 200, 300, 400, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100 (done). Not looking for a pat on the back, just what all the doormen and private security guys I worked with did a few times a year. In 8 weeks you could get a boost and push through weight you couldn't otherwise/add some extra size and if you were smart keep a decent amount of it - there was no PCT as the availability was not there.
It was typically one compound and life was not like it is today. We simply did not do large dosages and I suspect that is why I respond well to 150 mg of another compound over a 3-4 month period.
No questions high dosage - bigger muscles / stronger, etc. There is enough data to show bodybuilding ends in health issues when guys push it. Well known body builders and not so well known body builders and mortality earlier than expected.
Premature Death in Bodybuilders: What Do We Know? - PMC
Premature deaths in bodybuilders regularly make headlines and are cited as evidence that bodybuilding is a dangerous activity. A wealth of research has revealed elite athletes typically enjoy lower mortality rates than non-athletes, but research on ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
I am conservative but the first to admit I love 150 mg of Primo and 2 IU of script HGH on top of TRT - no question I am stronger, have better workouts and recover quicker than the regular 100 mg of TRT.
This never ending increasing dosages or adding another compound in order for this cycle to be as good as the last is complete dangerous and not required especially for the average guy who doesn't make money on their body / they pay to get it.
Just another perspective - for guys reaching for the golden apple: I don't think you can do it in the same manner as I describe but I am not reaching for the golden apple of stage / standing on a podium.