Anyone run small-dose Mast w/ their TRT ?
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I tried it and It was kind of a let down. I was expecting more. I was thinking it would drop my estrogen a bit and give me better libido and well being. It did neither one. just gave me acne and made me moody. didnt change sex drive. I ran 125 test with 100mast and also tried 175 test with 100 mast. same result. I will likely try trt with 200 primo next time I come off
One of these days I'm going to get around to trying it myself though hearing @Cheapshot 's results is a little disheartening.
honestly it may work for you. maybe i didnt run it high enough or long enough. cant expect much from 100 mast really...
Oh totally. I have a few years on you so maybe that works to my advantage.
Like @flexappeal I will get around to trying that one day. There is a product out there with two short acting tests for 125mg and 75mg mast, which would be low hassle. I love the idea of primo with TRT but i get the sense you would have to run it higher than i would want to get the real benefit. That said, at my age and body damage i toy with the idea of TRT plus low dosage NPP (100mg) per week.
That is Prosum true trt. I ran it from last March until about a month ago, 2 injections a week.
Stuff was great. Anyhow it didn’t up my sex Drive, I still needed an ai once in a while. The short acting tests at 250 mg a week are obviously more test than 250 of ethnate because you don’t have all that ester weight.
I didn’t find the mast did much either. I was hoping nit to run an ai. I dud bump the mast up to 200 a week then like Cheapshot I got acne and moody.
I really like his primo idea though.
I've run 200 mast with TRT on a cruise. Not sure if I got anything out of it. I just did it to kill off a vial. I didn't use any AI, but I never really do so not sure if it helped in that area or not. It watered down the T400 so that was nice I suppose.
I would run Mast with a cruise again, but I wouldn't pop the top off a fresh vial to do it.
I would run Mast with a cruise again, but I wouldn't pop the top off a fresh vial to do it.
I’ve also been curious about running Proviron with my TRT.
Now that would be good if I didn’t get heartburn.
Provirion may actually be the best option here. proviron might be great for me on trt. its a no go on cycle, It never fails to raise my blood pressure min 10 points.
Mast is better suited for cycles imo.
primo is great if your hardcore and holding alot of muscle. primo at 400 will maintain alot of muscle bridging.
deca/npp would be great too, but deca is the base of my cycles since I respond so well. so I want to clear it out of my system during trt.
Mast is better suited for cycles imo.
primo is great if your hardcore and holding alot of muscle. primo at 400 will maintain alot of muscle bridging.
deca/npp would be great too, but deca is the base of my cycles since I respond so well. so I want to clear it out of my system during trt.
The more i think...at my age TRT plus a little NPP for the joints might be good.
For your consideration - I don't think I have anything on hand to back this up, I haven't looked actually, but the evidence that the nandrolones are actually harmful to tendons and ligaments is piling up as time goes on. They may make things feel better or have a positive effect on other tissues there certainly are lots of anecdotal stories supporting that. I would be more inclined to think about Primo or maybe even Anavar but I have not looked deeply into any new evidence for either of them in a while.
Well that would suck...I have been very lucky with tendons and bones. Through my 30 year martial arts career and 8 years of rugby prior to that, i have never done a knee or broke a bone (except fingers, toes and nose) KNOCK ON WOOD. My muscles seem to take the brunt of it before a ligament or tendon has let go. But the scar tissue is mounting LOL.
Anyone can feel free to correct me here if I've gone off track -
Early on there were studies that showed (suggested is probably a better word) that both protein and collagen synthesis/turnover was accelerated with nandrolone. This along with the idea that this compound "lubricated" the joints through a few different means and also the anti-inflammatory effect leads to the belief that it's "good for your joints bro".
The problem is that the collagen remodeling that happens works in a few different ways (3 main ones?) At least one of them thickens the tissue but the pattern it reinforces may make them stronger in one way but makes them brittle at the same time. I'm very confident to say this is the case with Winstrol and in the case of the Nans it is this or something quite similar.
Its been a long haul. I had 375 on my back squatting when my leg let go. Its been 8months later and im only up to 175 x 20 reps. Im terrified to go heavy.. so its baby steps for now. 5 lbs a week.
Your scar tissue is probably holding your bones and joints together..lol
Your scar tissue is probably holding your bones and joints together..lol