Can I cruise for life at 22

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I am really looking into getting on steroids for years now, since 17 and now I feel like it is time. I would like a cycle in which I can maintain high levels of testosterone, 2000 ng/DL + until my death.

So I would like to be blasting on testosterone starting at 22 and in my mid twenties also take orals and other injectables like Trenbolone and such..when I reach 30s maybe cruise on just Test. Anyone else started young? I would like to have kids one day too, if it's possible.

Sorry if a lot of questions or statements, but I am new.
 
Zen said:
I am really looking into getting on steroids for years now, since 17 and now I feel like it is time. I would like a cycle in which I can maintain high levels of testosterone, 2000 ng/DL + until my death.

So I would like to be blasting on testosterone starting at 22 and in my mid twenties also take orals and other injectables like Trenbolone and such..when I reach 30s maybe cruise on just Test. Anyone else started young? I would like to have kids one day too, if it's possible.

Sorry if a lot of questions or statements, but I am new.
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How long have you been training? What's your natural test levels? You could cause life long infertility issues, sometimes irreversible. That's a huge gamble if you want kids man.
 
Hozer said:
How long have you been training? What's your natural test levels? You could cause life long infertility issues, sometimes irreversible. That's a huge gamble if you want kids man.
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I have never trained before. I would guess low, I don't sleep much and I am skinny, almost 6ft6 at about 183lbs, so I would like to start training too. I did use amphetamines and psilocybin pills sporadically but i quit now since it's not healthy, so I was wondering about getting on steroids for the mental benefits. Not needing to sleep much and having high alertness, no stress or fear about life. I will train too but its not my priority, if I am honest.
 
Zen said:
I have never trained before. I would guess low, I don't sleep much and I am skinny, almost 6ft6 at about 183lbs, so I would like to start training too. I did use amphetamines and psilocybin pills sporadically but i quit now since it's not healthy, so I was wondering about getting on steroids for the mental benefits. Not needing to sleep much and having high alertness, no stress or fear about life. I will train too but its not my priority, if I am honest.
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The mental health benefits? I don't think I've ever heard that one before. I'd suggest not touching gear, specifically if your looking for mental health benefits. I feel like I'm being trolled.
 
Hozer said:
The mental health benefits? I don't think I've ever heard that one before. I'd suggest not touching gear, specifically if your looking for mental health benefits. I feel like I'm being trolled.
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Like if you are natural and not using any stimulant then you will feel tired after a couple hours of sleep, you will feel anxiety because of low test.you will have no confidence and energy.

But I have heard with tren or 600+mg test you will not need to sleep much and also get all the benefits of high testosterone..it's like a biohack.
 
Hozer said:
The mental health benefits? I don't think I've ever heard that one before. I'd suggest not touching gear, specifically if your looking for mental health benefits. I feel like I'm being trolled.
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Yeah, the first post seemed trolly, but the second? OoooOoohhh boy.

Troll for sure.
 
Zen said:
Like if you are natural and not using any stimulant then you will feel tired after a couple hours of sleep, you will feel anxiety because of low test.you will have no confidence and energy.

But I have heard with tren or 600+mg test you will not need to sleep much and also get all the benefits of high testosterone..it's like a biohack.
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No.
 
torauntjemima said:
Yeah, the first post seemed trolly, but the second? OoooOoohhh boy.

Troll for sure.
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Sorry I am not trolling. I don't know anything about steroid, but I looked at high testosterone benefits and it correlates to less sleep, higher confidence and no anxiety without bad negatives of stims or psilocybin
 
Zen said:
Sorry I am not trolling. I don't know anything about steroid, but I looked at high testosterone benefits and it correlates to less sleep, higher confidence and no anxiety without bad negatives of stims or psilocybin
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Go get your test levels checked before you do anything crazy. If you test low, which is possible but unlikely given your age than look at prescribed TRT. I would absolutely not just jump on test. Even more so that you don't strength train.

Given your situation I wouldn't even look at a vial of tren. That's not going to help.
 
Zen said:
Sorry I am not trolling. I don't know anything about steroid, but I looked at high testosterone benefits and it correlates to less sleep, higher confidence and no anxiety without bad negatives of stims or psilocybin
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When working out SLEEP is the most important. Or rest, anyway. It's when you grow. I would say confidence might increase, mostly because you'll look better, can't speak on the anxiety.

I would recommend you do NOT use steroids, though. You talk about using drugs in the past and say you want to take steroids, which you never have, for the rest of your life... I can tell you have addictive tendencies and this isn't one of those things you should be taking with that mentality.

I wouldn't even recommend them until you have some exercise time under your belt. What's the point? To sleep less? Wild.
 
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Zen said:
I have never trained before. I would guess low, I don't sleep much and I am skinny, almost 6ft6 at about 183lbs, so I would like to start training too. I did use amphetamines and psilocybin pills sporadically but i quit now since it's not healthy, so I was wondering about getting on steroids for the mental benefits. Not needing to sleep much and having high alertness, no stress or fear about life. I will train too but its not my priority, if I am honest.
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So I would like to be blasting on testosterone starting at 22 and in my mid twenties also take orals and other injectables like Trenbolone and such..when I reach 30s maybe cruise on just Test. Anyone else started young? I would like to have kids one day too, if it's possible.
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Tren and mental health benefits do not belong in the same forum lol. If you struggle with mental health tren will make you feel 45x worse to be honest.

Steroids will not help your mental health, they’re gonna make you feel worse.

As for cruising higher levels of test, yeah you can. Not sure why you’d want 2000ng/dl, you’re not gonna really feel much better or more driven off it than you would off a normal high dose HRT around 1100ng/dl

Fertility is fear mongered, just take hcg or HMG if you can it’s like a 99% recovery rate if you are willing to come off the hrt temporarily ‍ to Recovery ur fertility
 
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logan11847 said:
Tren and mental health benefits do not belong in the same forum lol. If you struggle with mental health tren will make you feel 45x worse to be honest.

Steroids will not help your mental health, they’re gonna make you feel worse.

As for cruising higher levels of test, yeah you can. Not sure why you’d want 2000ng/dl, you’re not gonna really feel much better or more driven off it than you would off a normal high dose HRT around 1100ng/dl

Fertility is fear mongered, just take hcg or HMG if you can it’s like a 99% recovery rate if you are willing to come off the hrt temporarily ‍ to Recovery ur fertility
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Where did you pull this number from?? Its definitely not 99% if you've been blasting and cruising from young 20s into mid 30s. Maybe if you took real time off between cycles with one short cycle a year it might be, but with cruising indefinitely it's unlikely unless you keep HCG on board from day 1.

I spent 2 years off with HCG(4000iu script weekly) and HMG under a Endo, I was still at 0.3ng/dl at the second year mark when we gave up and went back on TRT. So I'm sure I can't be the only 1% out there. The length of blast and cruise window without breaks would play a huge role. OP will have to accept that
 
What happened? Did you get beat up or dumped or something lately? I dont care it happens to everyone but to be 22 and want to knowingly make these choices that will definitly effect the rest of your life is screaming red flag to me. Especially since you dont even train did you watch an andrew Tate video and now your an alpha? Not trying to be disrespectful but for your future healths sake snd your kids sake its worth looking into. Any recent trauma or conflict in your life? And yes at the very minimum id be getting your sperm frozen for the future because you may get injured or have a heart attack or a new job even and boom your out of the gym and now your important and dependent on synthetic teatosterone for the rest of your life. Its fucking huge bro i literally had to read your post twice because I initially thought you were trolling
 
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And to second what others have said steroids just make all your mental health problems worse. Trust me on that. Unless you have low testosterone and you supplememt a replacement dosage
 
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Hozer said:
Go get your test levels checked before you do anything crazy. If you test low, which is possible but unlikely given your age than look at prescribed TRT. I would absolutely not just jump on test. Even more so that you don't strength train.

Given your situation I wouldn't even look at a vial of tren. That's not going to help.
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DeeKnows said:
Learn to train and eat properly for the next few years. Take some creatine and test boosters. After 5 years and a lot of research, maybe then revisite the topic.
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torauntjemima said:
When working out SLEEP is the most important. Or rest, anyway. It's when you grow. I would say confidence might increase, mostly because you'll look better, can't speak on the anxiety.

I would recommend you do NOT use steroids, though. You talk about using drugs in the past and say you want to take steroids, which you never have, for the rest of your life... I can tell you have addictive tendencies and this isn't one of those things you should be taking with that mentality.

I wouldn't even recommend them until you have some exercise time under your belt. What's the point? To sleep less? Wild.
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logan11847 said:
Tren and mental health benefits do not belong in the same forum lol. If you struggle with mental health tren will make you feel 45x worse to be honest.

Steroids will not help your mental health, they’re gonna make you feel worse.

As for cruising higher levels of test, yeah you can. Not sure why you’d want 2000ng/dl, you’re not gonna really feel much better or more driven off it than you would off a normal high dose HRT around 1100ng/dl

Fertility is fear mongered, just take hcg or HMG if you can it’s like a 99% recovery rate if you are willing to come off the hrt temporarily ‍ to Recovery ur fertility
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storman said:
ummmm. Nevermind
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libo said:
Where did you pull this number from?? Its definitely not 99% if you've been blasting and cruising from young 20s into mid 30s. Maybe if you took real time off between cycles with one short cycle a year it might be, but with cruising indefinitely it's unlikely unless you keep HCG on board from day 1.

I spent 2 years off with HCG(4000iu script weekly) and HMG under a Endo, I was still at 0.3ng/dl at the second year mark when we gave up and went back on TRT. So I'm sure I can't be the only 1% out there. The length of blast and cruise window without breaks would play a huge role. OP will have to accept that
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Bigbear said:
And to second what others have said steroids just make all your mental health problems worse. Trust me on that. Unless you have low testosterone and you supplememt a replacement dosage
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Ok guys thank you for the advice, I will listen because not listening in life got me into bad scenarios and situations.

I wanted to do steroids mostly for the mental benefits that I now know are not really true. I thought with steroids you wouldn't have to sleep much and always feel confident and high energy. I only feel confident and not anxious if I sleep a lot and take care of my health but I have a job now so I don't have much time in my day unless I take amphetamines.

it's either I don't have much of a life and take care of my health, only having 3 or 4 hours of free time a day outside of weekends or I can use amphetamines and have a lot of time because I am not sleeping much but I know it's bad for my health.

My idea was that steroids could fix that problem and also I could start training and instantly have the training boost that steroids bring. But libo gave me some fear about infertility, I wouldn't want to cycle off I would just use for 10-15 years straight since it's not that expensive. I rather have kids with my girlfriend in the future so I won't do that. Thanks for the help and being patient
 
Truly, you can do anything you want.

Whether or not it's a good idea can be another story.

There is no defined time where aas use is acceptable or not. That story is different for everyone and depends on a multitude of factors. No one can tell you when or off it is the right time or what it should look like.

The only advice I can offer is this.... whatever you decide. Be informed. Do a lot of research and try to truly understand these five things...if nothing else....

1) Choosing to use aas WILL change your life. Sometimes for the good, sometimes for the not so good. Regardless. Aas use comes with permanent health impacts. Choices....good, bad or indifferent ALWAYS come with consequences. Not all doom and gloom here. But use changes everything.

2) What you think is important today will change significantly as you progress and age. This to me, is the one that everyone thinks they understand but rarely do. Always give it thought and constant consideration. Hindsight is always 20/20.

3) The choice to use aas WILL impact your health, especially over time. You can mitigate negative impacts if you are both informed and conservative in your choices and approach as time goes on. However, there are no guarantees. Some can use forever without much consequence, some aren't so lucky....there are no concrete ways to determine your path proactively. Monitoring health and being honest with yourself is paramount. You WILL find yourself at some point... or points trying to explain away the obvious to stay on a little longer or run a little higher or push a little further. Why? Because they work and are awesome. Pushing, especially here and there, isn't a death sentence or anything necessarily, however the more it happens, the more other things can start to happen....and sometimes by the time they are realized, the damage has been done.

4) Risk vs reward is a real thing to always keep in mind. That too, changes significantly over time.

5) Just because you dont "feel" negative sides.....doesn't mean you aren't experiencing them. Monitor your health. BP, Bloods, Sugars etc.
 
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