Summer cut to lean bulk / recomp

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Silversurfer

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Hey guys new member here. Thought I’d post my log here to get some feedback or recommendations and just for some tracking for myself.

My background I’m 33 and been on doctor prescribed trt since 23. I used to run cycles when I was youmger and have kinda dipped my toes into into a bit of everything doing trial and error ( mainly error ) I’ve had a couple set back with some injuries and have taken some time off the gym for different stages in my life. Around 3 years ago I made a big life change and decided to start taking my health a lot more serious and significantly cut back my drinking and partying as it was getting a bit out of hand. The last three years I’ve been 3/4 times a week at the gym just staying healthy and maintaining with no real goals in mind. Last summer I did a big cut on just trt and Reta. Got down to the leanest I’ve ever been and felt great but I had a crazy busy summer, stood in 4 weddings, and most were a lot of travelling. So I lost a lot of my muscle mass. This year I decided this year was when I was gonna get everything dialed back in.

I started this around 15% and my goal is to get down to 8% and transition into a lean bulk. I want to stay single digits for July and August and still add some lean mass and fill out a bit more.

Stats:
6’4”
218lbs
15 ish bf
250p/120f/300c 3300 cals
Have a slew of ancillaries/supplements and peptides.

May 1st ( all short esters except keep my trt dose of 140mg of test c and add additional with prop and I pin daily )

5iu hgh nightly
4mg Reta weekly ( I have no problem hitting my macros and the food noise is gone at this dosage )
750iu hcg weekly
250 test
315 mast
140 tren

May 14th
Tren ace up to 210

As of may 30th I’m prob around 10-11% so I’m going to keep macros the same for another 2 weeks as I’m still dropping BF % fairly steady. Pic attached is may 29th ( I don’t take pictures very well ) and don’t have any when I started but the fat loss has been very noticeable so far.

I’m going to pull bloods this week and see where I’m sitting also in that regard.

My plan going forward is in about two weeks I’m going to add either winny and/or var if I get down to the single digits which I should be by then and run that for 6-8 weeks and see where I end up.
 

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Nice work.
The winny will get you looking better than the var but the winny will have you feeling shittier in terms of getting too tight and injury prone. Muscle cramps and pulled muscles especially after week 4. If you go high doses you may even rip a tendon if your training is too intense.
The var will have a fuller/cleaner look rather hard n tight but you wont have the injury issues or toxicity issues either.
Another option is proviron if you just want a tighter harder look without toxicity at all. Not as hard and full as winstrol but its still nice with zero issues.
 
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Nice work.
The winny will get you looking better than the var but the winny will have you feeling shittier in terms of getting too tight and injury prone. Muscle cramps and pulled muscles especially after week 4. If you go high doses you may even rip a tendon if your training is too intense.
The var will have a fuller/cleaner look rather hard n tight but you wont have the injury issues or toxicity issues either.
Another option is proviron if you just want a tighter harder look without toxicity at all. Not as hard and full as winstrol but its still nice with zero issues.
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I’ve never tried proviron. I just had the winny and var already and was looking to clean up the drawer. Never ran winny before would even doing 25mg still be pretty harsh ?

I mean if it does wreak havoc I guess I can drop it and should clear pretty quick.
 
Silversurfer said:
I’ve never tried proviron. I just had the winny and var already and was looking to clean up the drawer. Never ran winny before would even doing 25mg still be pretty harsh ?

I mean if it does wreak havoc I guess I can drop it and should clear pretty quick.
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25mg winstrol isnt very high and youll likely be fine. 50, 75, 100 per day depending on the individual is when things get bad.
Winstrol is best used for a specific short term event like a show, photoshoot, short vacay look. 2-4 weeks leading up to it.
You can always drop it once you get the feeling that the next muscle cramp may cause an injury lol.
At 25 you would probably be fine for 6 weeks tbh. Results would be better at 50 for 4 weeks though.
Whatever you do is up to you, but just be aware of how your body is reacting and adjust accordingly. Just trying to save you an injury. It gets to a point with winstrol that the dumbest small movements tweak a muscle, its gets fuckin silly.
 
DeeKnows said:
25mg winstrol isnt very high and youll likely be fine. 50, 75, 100 per day depending on the individual is when things get bad.
Winstrol is best used for a specific short term event like a show, photoshoot, short vacay look. 2-4 weeks leading up to it.
You can always drop it once you get the feeling that the next muscle cramp may cause an injury lol.
At 25 you would probably be fine for 6 weeks tbh. Results would be better at 50 for 4 weeks though.
Whatever you do is up to you, but just be aware of how your body is reacting and adjust accordingly. Just trying to save you an injury. It gets to a point with winstrol that the dumbest small movements tweak a muscle, its gets fuckin silly.
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well thanks for the info, in all honesty I’m just looking for summer don’t have much to do but look good on the lake so maybe I’ll just leave it be. I’ve had multiple injuries over the years from lifting and sports and don’t feel like going down that road again.
 
DeeKnows said:
Nice work.
The winny will get you looking better than the var but the winny will have you feeling shittier in terms of getting too tight and injury prone. Muscle cramps and pulled muscles especially after week 4. If you go high doses you may even rip a tendon if your training is too intense.
The var will have a fuller/cleaner look rather hard n tight but you wont have the injury issues or toxicity issues either.
Another option is proviron if you just want a tighter harder look without toxicity at all. Not as hard and full as winstrol but its still nice with zero issues.
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Second this..solid advice! I personally hate the way winny makes my body feel
 
Silversurfer said:
well thanks for the info, in all honesty I’m just looking for summer don’t have much to do but look good on the lake so maybe I’ll just leave it be. I’ve had multiple injuries over the years from lifting and sports and don’t feel like going down that road again.
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So then var is the answer!
 
Silversurfer said:
well thanks for the info, in all honesty I’m just looking for summer don’t have much to do but look good on the lake so maybe I’ll just leave it be. I’ve had multiple injuries over the years from lifting and sports and don’t feel like going down that road again.
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in my experience, if you add var with proviron,and drop the winny, youll feel less toxic,the proviron frees up space for everything else to work better,libido goes through the roof,your never drained of energy,and if you had injurys before,that winny just keeps the drying effect going and its no good for anything your tying to heal up in time,im just saying, proviron gets a bad rep,untill you pair it with the right things
 
matt55 said:
in my experience, if you add var with proviron,and drop the winny, youll feel less toxic,the proviron frees up space for everything else to work better,libido goes through the roof,your never drained of energy,and if you had injurys before,that winny just keeps the drying effect going and its no good for anything your tying to heal up in time,im just saying, proviron gets a bad rep,untill you pair it with the right things
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Yea It was just something I had in my inventory and thought I’ve never used it before so may as well toss it when I’m actually at a spot it would be noticeable. But I don’t feel like being that dryed out. I’ll keep it for. The future when maybe I have some npp or something.

I’ve actually never even looked into provision but I will be doing so research after your guys recommendations
 
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