Starting primo this week.
Would love to hear people’s experience running primo.
Would love to hear people’s experience running primo.
Share your experience with primo as an Ai
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I only ran it for a few weeks so I never got a great feel for it tbh. I did front load to steady serum the first week.
It felt really clean. Controlled and assertive without feeling overstimulated. Subtle though. Weak compared to mast or tren.
The look was really cool. Same fullness as deca. Better looking skin. Dry despite being so full.
Couldn't really say anything about the gains. I wasnt on long enough. I've heard its pretty close to test mg for mg.
It was a weak AI for me. I forget the doses I ran, but I remember being surprised how much primo I needed to keep the e2 under control.
It felt really clean. Controlled and assertive without feeling overstimulated. Subtle though. Weak compared to mast or tren.
The look was really cool. Same fullness as deca. Better looking skin. Dry despite being so full.
Couldn't really say anything about the gains. I wasnt on long enough. I've heard its pretty close to test mg for mg.
It was a weak AI for me. I forget the doses I ran, but I remember being surprised how much primo I needed to keep the e2 under control.
I haven't run it much at all but 50/50 ratio with test prop was nice. It definitely helps with fullness, I actually noticed it affects my mood more than I would have thought. I feel like for myself it's like a mini anadrol. My sleep has been affected too. Honestly writing this it sounds like it may have crushed my estrogen a bit but I believe that's because I stopped taking prop. I also added in 0.25 of adex before so you can't really learn much from my experience here.
Final thoughts are I'd only run it if I was doing a test only cycle. I'm sure it would be fantastic with 700mg of test. I'll probably actually do that just to lengthen a cycle without putting a toll on my health. If I was cruising then no, I want to be on as little test as possible even if I look much much smaller, I want my estrogen higher and I want as much peace for my body as possible. Anything extra is just wasting my time. If I eat enough protein, I still go to the gym, I don't over eat and I wasn't over training before all of this so I actually do go to the gym and at least do some DC training then I won't lose muscle in two months, I will look like I lost 10lbs of muscle in a week but that is just from not being as full.
Final thoughts are I'd only run it if I was doing a test only cycle. I'm sure it would be fantastic with 700mg of test. I'll probably actually do that just to lengthen a cycle without putting a toll on my health. If I was cruising then no, I want to be on as little test as possible even if I look much much smaller, I want my estrogen higher and I want as much peace for my body as possible. Anything extra is just wasting my time. If I eat enough protein, I still go to the gym, I don't over eat and I wasn't over training before all of this so I actually do go to the gym and at least do some DC training then I won't lose muscle in two months, I will look like I lost 10lbs of muscle in a week but that is just from not being as full.
I’m prescribed 200 mg per week and run 25 mg a week of primo with that along with DHEA.
This works best for me and I feel really good. All the things you want to function well and have zero sides. Mind you I have rarely ever gotten any sides.
This works best for me and I feel really good. All the things you want to function well and have zero sides. Mind you I have rarely ever gotten any sides.
Currently on 300mg of test e weekly.
Looking to add primo to help manage my e2 levels.
but I’m not sure if I should depend on primo for controlling my e2 or just run asin
I know my e2 is high because I started cycle at 215lbs and I’m now up to 240, I have scalp acne and oily skin.
Even though I’m holding a good amount of water I still look fairly lean, and I’m still just as vascular.
But my scalp acne has gotten so bad. My doctor even prescribed me accutane.
But the rules are to pull labs and move forward based on labs. Which is in the process
Thanks for your experience bro. Appreciate the comment.
would you say everyone is different when it comes to it being used as a efficient ai? I heard from others that even small amounts can tank their e2
Morning @Ilovelearning - do not come to the conclusion you have high E. I was convinced multiple times my estrogen or prolactin had to be high. Multiple tests showed it was right in the middle where it should be.
I love Primo - it makes me feel good and in low dosages and believe it to be one of the most healthy compounds. Not going to reap mass like Deca but as @Funnyman said, when lean it can shine. I feel more confident/just feel better (not the best way to describe the feeling but I like it), it can make your bones stronger, it does absolutely nothing to my estrogen or hormones except send my free test through the roof. If is a DHT compound so expect your free test to take a huge jump. It also increases my lymphocyte count by a small amount which is not bad - helping the immune system a little. I am yet to see a bad side other than hair loss with Primo. It isn't as bad as other compounds but most DHT compounds will cause some shedding.
I am referring to 150 mg a week added to 100 mg of test.
I have never need an AI or SERM yet but was convinced I did.
As you already said - "But the rules are to pull labs and move forward based on labs. Which is in the process"
If you can get private bloods through a naturopath - do it, it is worth the data you collect and keep the paperwork with notes on what you doing/taking/eating and even a pic of yourself. Keep a file to look back on as you do other cycles and you may find a pattern for your physiology.
@Ilovelearning , Regarding the anti-aromatase properties of Primo: I recommend everyone do this, but I know it takes some time and patience, so for now perhaps just add this to your data if it helps. Obviously, get bloodwork done if you can, it's great to have these answers for planning later gear combos and cycles...
When I learned that both Equipoise and Primobolan had Ai properties I ran both in two separate trial runs, matched with just testosterone at 1:1 ratios at 500mg each. I waited 8 weeks on each and did bloodwork. Both Eq and Primo had my estrogen at 85-105 which for me is pretty much perfect. So, in my case they worked the same, and subsequent blood tests where I was using up to 700 test/eq or lower amounts of say, 200/200 Testosterone / Primo also had my estrogen at around the same 80-100 range. So, I now knew that the 1:1 ratio was holding true at anything from 200 to 700 mgs of each.
Now I know, and that's super convenient but it took some effort. Especially since they work roughly the same at a 1:1 ratio, I can now use either as an AI and plan cycles accordingly.
So, take that for what it's worth. Some people react quite differently to Eq than Primo in this regard, so that's why if you're going to do one, you shouldn't necessarily assume the same effect from the other, but since we're talking Primo here, I usually tell people to try it out at 1:1 and test at 6-8 weeks.
When I learned that both Equipoise and Primobolan had Ai properties I ran both in two separate trial runs, matched with just testosterone at 1:1 ratios at 500mg each. I waited 8 weeks on each and did bloodwork. Both Eq and Primo had my estrogen at 85-105 which for me is pretty much perfect. So, in my case they worked the same, and subsequent blood tests where I was using up to 700 test/eq or lower amounts of say, 200/200 Testosterone / Primo also had my estrogen at around the same 80-100 range. So, I now knew that the 1:1 ratio was holding true at anything from 200 to 700 mgs of each.
Now I know, and that's super convenient but it took some effort. Especially since they work roughly the same at a 1:1 ratio, I can now use either as an AI and plan cycles accordingly.
So, take that for what it's worth. Some people react quite differently to Eq than Primo in this regard, so that's why if you're going to do one, you shouldn't necessarily assume the same effect from the other, but since we're talking Primo here, I usually tell people to try it out at 1:1 and test at 6-8 weeks.