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[Tren4Evah]

Backround info. (I like to write long story’s lol)

Was active on cjm when I was 15 and meso later on. Some of you would probably recognize me.

Just want to preface this by saying I know that what I did was silly, I was misguided and stupid. Usually what happens when retarded teens take gear. Not trying to brag with this. Just being 100% open and honest. Dont try to mimic anything I did, not that anyone with half a brain would want to though.

The beginning
Started gear at 15 due to finding out I had hypogonadism. No idea why but I did. Testosterone levels were 12ng/dl or something. Doc wouldn’t give me a script so I said fuck it and orderd test and dbol from syn. 500test e, 60dbol. Cycle went well, cured what I belive to be anorexia looking back at it. Was 90lbs and went to 160 in the 20 week cycle. My anti estrogens were fake back then due to lack of knowledge so I worsened the prepubertal gyno I had. After this I finally got my prescription for testosterone. 200mg taro cyp every 4 weeks. Doctor that came to my house to pin me thought I was transgender lol but that’s besides the point.

From 15-17 I was on this trt protocol.


The spiral, age 17.
I had been back into the gym and training after taking time off due to complicated teenage years and bad decisions. Was back at 110lbs. Decided to hop on a cycle of 500mg test e and 50 anadrol, both from syn.
The cycle didn’t last long as for some reason I decided it would be a good idea to to just go full retard. Within 2 months I went from that stack to adding tren and halo, running test tren eq, doubling the doses to ‘3 grams’ etc etc, retard shit. I’m of the belief that pros and many recreational users tend to underplay their doses and such but I had no right to fuck around with those dosages and compounds at that time. Ended up running doses like that, used other compounds, mast superdrol, winstrol etc. my dumbass ran 100mg superdrol from oxygen pharm and to be honest even though it was stupid dumb, I experienced no adverse affects.


Age 18 FULL RETARD MODE
At this point I was about to do a HUGE bulk.
Ended up going from 180 to like i believe a very lean 220lbs in 6 months. Veins in obliques etc.
I’m going to hold your hand when I read out the stack I was using.
1g test, 1g tren, 1g ment, 1g deca, 100mg dbol daily and 100mg anadrol daily.

I know, fucked.

Again, experienced no adverse affects other than horrible acne which I honestly think I would’ve gotten anyway. My brother and dad had worse than me believe it or not, just a genetic thing I’d assume. I was going bloods monthly and organ imaging quarterly. Organs: normal weights, no abnormalities. Bloodwork: only ever had elevated liver enzymes while on the orals and my hdl was low, my ldl was always in range. Blood pressure was always fine. Not trying to justify my usage, just being open with my experience.

After this 6 month bulk, I had decided to recomp on test tren and mast. I believe I was pinning 3cc of this blend 375 stuff. Did that for a couple months before I dropped the test and was running 0 estrogen. I know, fucked. Ran that for another 2 months, the decided to take 400 tren e daily (300e, 100 no ester) and 100mg stanalone (DHT) no ester. At the end of the 6 month cut, i completely recommend and stayed 220lbs but managed to get to single digit bodyfat.

Was time to bulk again, ran the same bulking stack i previously ran. Got 2 months into it before I got really sick with COVID and developed pericarditis. Hospital for two weeks, couldn’t eat at all, on so many opioids to help with the pain and they didn’t do jack. Couldn’t sip water without puking. No sleep or food for 2 weeks straight. Lost 40 lbs. couldn’t train for another 3 ish months.

Came off all gear, no trt.


Present time, getting back into it
Got cleared to excersise again in February.
From febuary -> now. 170lbs -> 190lbs

Feeling healthy, feeling great. Making great progress with a new training program and am happy to be back. I have no interest in running stupid cycles anymore. I’ve found that “cycle design” is better than just raw mg’s. (I know right? Crazy to believe) . Currently running test tren mast and eq. It’s giving a really solid look.

No im not intellectually disabled.


Labs I’ve used: syn, oxygen, apexa, deus, ace, helion, Chinese generics.

 

[Tren4Evah]

Current diet:

Meal 1:
3 eggs, 6pcs toast, 10g butter in pan, I just eyeball it though. + 350g eggwhites which I drink. + 600cals of tasty pastry’s or whatever. Today it was glazed doughnuts.

Meal 2: 1 chicken breast, 200g raw weight white rice

Intra workout/m3:
120g white sugar, electrolyte powder, eaas

Post workout/m4:
1 bananay, 140g cereal, 10g honey, 25g whey

Meal 5: 200g ground beef, 170g raw weight rice

Pre bead/m6: oats, whey. Don’t remember what else, don’t want to track right now.

I add lots of sauces and snacks because im at a weight plateau right now.

 

[Tren4Evah]

Current training plan:

PUSH A (Chest dominant)
Chest

• Barbell Bench Press – 1×3–5 (top strength set)

• Barbell Bench Press — 3×6–8
• Incline DB Press — 3×8–10
• Cable Fly (mid) — 3×12–15
Seated machine, deep stretch

Side delts
• Cable Lateral Raise — 4×12–15

Triceps

• Skull Crushers — 3×8–10

Bench: flat

• Grip: shoulder-width on EZ bar

• Arms: slightly angled back (not straight up)

• Rope Pushdowns — 3×12–15

• Slight forward lean

• Elbows pinned to sides

• Rope starts at chest height

• Push down and spread rope apart hard

Serratus

• Cable Serratus Punch — 3×12–15

Abs

• Cable Crunch — 3×12–15

• Hanging Leg Raise — 3×12–15



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PULL A (Thickness + Neck)
Back thickness

Barbell Row – 1×3–5 (top strength set)

• Barbell Row — 3×6–8

• Chest-Supported Row — 3×8–10
Neutral or slight pronated grip

• Chest glued to pad

Elbows: ~30–45° from your body

• Drive: back + slightly down

Lats
Weighted Pull-Ups – 1×3–5 (strength set)

Neutral grip

• Weighted Pull-Ups — 2×6–8

Neutral grip

• Neutral Pulldown — 2×10–12

Rear delts

• Reverse Pec Deck — 4×12–15

Traps

• Barbell Shrugs — 4×8–12


Biceps

• Barbell Curl — 3×8–10

• Incline DB Curl — 2×10–12
Forearms

• Reverse Wrist Curls — 3×15–20

• Wrist Curls — 3×15–20

Neck

• Flexion — 2×15–20

• Extension — 2×15–20

• Lateral (each side) — 2×15–20



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LEGS A (Quad dominant)

Quads
• Barbell Squat – 1×3–5 (top strength set)

• Barbell Squat — 3×6–8

• Leg Press — 3×10–12

• Leg Extension — 3×12–15

Hamstrings

• Lying Leg Curl — 3×10–12

Glutes

• Hip Thrust — 3×8–10

Adductors

• Adductor Machine — 3×12–15

• Abductor Machine — 3×12–15

Calves

• Standing Calf Raise — 4×12–15

• Seated Calf Raise — 3×15–20

Tibialis

• Tibialis Raises — 3×15–20



⸻



PUSH B (Delts dominant)
Chest

• Incline Barbell Press – 1×3–5 (top strength set)

• Incline Barbell Press — 3×6–8

• Flat DB Press — 3×8–10

• Machine Chest Fly — 2×12–15


Side delts

• DB Lateral Raise — 4×12–15

• Cable Lateral Raise (partial stretch) — 3×15–20

Rear delts

• Rear Delt Cable Fly — 3×12–15


Triceps

• Close-Grip Bench Press — 3×5–8


• Overhead Rope Extension — 3×12–15

Serratus

• Cable Serratus Punch — 3×12–15

Abs / Obliques

• Decline Sit-Ups — 3×12–15

• Cable Woodchoppers — 3×12–15



⸻



PULL B (Width + Neck)
Lats

Lat Pulldown – 1×3–5 (top strength set)

• Lat Pulldown — 3×8–10

• Single Arm Cable Row — 3×10–12

Back thickness

• T-Bar Row – 1×3–5 (strength set)

• T-Bar Row — 2×6–8

Rear delts

• Rear Delt Fly — 3×12–15

Traps

• DB Shrugs — 3×10–12

Biceps

• Preacher Curl — 3×10–12


• Hammer Curl (seated incline — 3×10–12

Forearms

• Wrist Curls — 3×15–20


• Reverse Wrist Curls — 2–3×15–20

Neck

• Flexion — 2×15–20

• Extension — 2×15–20

• Lateral — 2×15–20



⸻



LEGS B (Posterior dominant)
Hamstrings

• BB Romanian Deadlift — 1x3-5 (strength)

• BB Romanian Deadlift — 3×6–8

• Seated Leg Curl — 3×10–12

Quads

• Hack Squat — 1x3-5

(Strength focused)

• Hack Squat — 2×8–10

• DB Walking Lunges — 2×10–12 steps


Glutes

• BB Hip Thrust / Glute Bridge — 3×8–10

Abductors

• Abductor Machine — 3×12–15


Adductor Machine

3×12–15

Calves

• Standing Calf Raise — 3×12–15

• Seated Calf Raise — 3×15–20

Tibialis

• Tibialis Raises — 3×15–20

 

[Goldenrod]

Backround info. (I like to write long story’s lol)

Was active on cjm when I was 15 and meso later on. Some of you would probably recognize me.

Just want to preface this by saying I know that what I did was silly, I was misguided and stupid. Usually what happens when retarded teens take gear. Not trying to brag with this. Just being 100% open and honest. Dont try to mimic anything I did, not that anyone with half a brain would want to though.

The beginning
Started gear at 15 due to finding out I had hypogonadism. No idea why but I did. Testosterone levels were 12ng/dl or something. Doc wouldn’t give me a script so I said fuck it and orderd test and dbol from syn. 500test e, 60dbol. Cycle went well, cured what I belive to be anorexia looking back at it. Was 90lbs and went to 160 in the 20 week cycle. My anti estrogens were fake back then due to lack of knowledge so I worsened the prepubertal gyno I had. After this I finally got my prescription for testosterone. 200mg taro cyp every 4 weeks. Doctor that came to my house to pin me thought I was transgender lol but that’s besides the point.

From 15-17 I was on this trt protocol.


The spiral, age 17.
I had been back into the gym and training after taking time off due to complicated teenage years and bad decisions. Was back at 110lbs. Decided to hop on a cycle of 500mg test e and 50 anadrol, both from syn.
The cycle didn’t last long as for some reason I decided it would be a good idea to to just go full retard. Within 2 months I went from that stack to adding tren and halo, running test tren eq, doubling the doses to ‘3 grams’ etc etc, retard shit. I’m of the belief that pros and many recreational users tend to underplay their doses and such but I had no right to fuck around with those dosages and compounds at that time. Ended up running doses like that, used other compounds, mast superdrol, winstrol etc. my dumbass ran 100mg superdrol from oxygen pharm and to be honest even though it was stupid dumb, I experienced no adverse affects.


Age 18 FULL RETARD MODE
At this point I was about to do a HUGE bulk.
Ended up going from 180 to like i believe a very lean 220lbs in 6 months. Veins in obliques etc.
I’m going to hold your hand when I read out the stack I was using.
1g test, 1g tren, 1g ment, 1g deca, 100mg dbol daily and 100mg anadrol daily.

I know, fucked.

Again, experienced no adverse affects other than horrible acne which I honestly think I would’ve gotten anyway. My brother and dad had worse than me believe it or not, just a genetic thing I’d assume. I was going bloods monthly and organ imaging quarterly. Organs: normal weights, no abnormalities. Bloodwork: only ever had elevated liver enzymes while on the orals and my hdl was low, my ldl was always in range. Blood pressure was always fine. Not trying to justify my usage, just being open with my experience.

After this 6 month bulk, I had decided to recomp on test tren and mast. I believe I was pinning 3cc of this blend 375 stuff. Did that for a couple months before I dropped the test and was running 0 estrogen. I know, fucked. Ran that for another 2 months, the decided to take 400 tren e daily (300e, 100 no ester) and 100mg stanalone (DHT) no ester. At the end of the 6 month cut, i completely recommend and stayed 220lbs but managed to get to single digit bodyfat.

Was time to bulk again, ran the same bulking stack i previously ran. Got 2 months into it before I got really sick with COVID and developed pericarditis. Hospital for two weeks, couldn’t eat at all, on so many opioids to help with the pain and they didn’t do jack. Couldn’t sip water without puking. No sleep or food for 2 weeks straight. Lost 40 lbs. couldn’t train for another 3 ish months.

Came off all gear, no trt.


Present time, getting back into it
Got cleared to excersise again in February.
From febuary -> now. 170lbs -> 190lbs

Feeling healthy, feeling great. Making great progress with a new training program and am happy to be back. I have no interest in running stupid cycles anymore. I’ve found that “cycle design” is better than just raw mg’s. (I know right? Crazy to believe) . Currently running test tren mast and eq. It’s giving a really solid look.

No im not intellectually disabled.


Labs I’ve used: syn, oxygen, apexa, deus, ace, helion, Chinese generics.

Thanks for being honest and telling what you did. You commented, "
Present time, getting back into it
Got cleared to excersise again in February.
From febuary -> now. 170lbs -> 190lbs"

What was wrong that had to be cleared? Were you sick, did the abuse come calling? No one can do that any age without it impacting you at some point. Being young can help you heal from the damage you were doing to your body but I doubt you were taking many supplements to protect yourself.
How did you go from being 220 ripped and I assume heavier as you learned nutrition to 170? Curious if you quit all PED's and training and why.

If you were getting SYN PED's when you were 15, do you mind me asking how old you are now?

The fact docs would not help you with hypogonadism at any age is wrong. This is when you hit puberty - some earlier / some later and hormones are essential to a normal life.

I hope your health is good @Tren4Evah as I doubt anyone can take that much for so long with no breaks and get away with it even if the issues come 10 years later. At least that has been my experience with guys who run massive cycles for long periods. I hope you are one of the few who are lucky and don't end up with medical issues.

Best of luck on your future.

 

[superbeast]

Backround info. (I like to write long story’s lol)

Was active on cjm when I was 15 and meso later on. Some of you would probably recognize me.

Just want to preface this by saying I know that what I did was silly, I was misguided and stupid. Usually what happens when retarded teens take gear. Not trying to brag with this. Just being 100% open and honest. Dont try to mimic anything I did, not that anyone with half a brain would want to though.

The beginning
Started gear at 15 due to finding out I had hypogonadism. No idea why but I did. Testosterone levels were 12ng/dl or something. Doc wouldn’t give me a script so I said fuck it and orderd test and dbol from syn. 500test e, 60dbol. Cycle went well, cured what I belive to be anorexia looking back at it. Was 90lbs and went to 160 in the 20 week cycle. My anti estrogens were fake back then due to lack of knowledge so I worsened the prepubertal gyno I had. After this I finally got my prescription for testosterone. 200mg taro cyp every 4 weeks. Doctor that came to my house to pin me thought I was transgender lol but that’s besides the point.

From 15-17 I was on this trt protocol.


The spiral, age 17.
I had been back into the gym and training after taking time off due to complicated teenage years and bad decisions. Was back at 110lbs. Decided to hop on a cycle of 500mg test e and 50 anadrol, both from syn.
The cycle didn’t last long as for some reason I decided it would be a good idea to to just go full retard. Within 2 months I went from that stack to adding tren and halo, running test tren eq, doubling the doses to ‘3 grams’ etc etc, retard shit. I’m of the belief that pros and many recreational users tend to underplay their doses and such but I had no right to fuck around with those dosages and compounds at that time. Ended up running doses like that, used other compounds, mast superdrol, winstrol etc. my dumbass ran 100mg superdrol from oxygen pharm and to be honest even though it was stupid dumb, I experienced no adverse affects.


Age 18 FULL RETARD MODE
At this point I was about to do a HUGE bulk.
Ended up going from 180 to like i believe a very lean 220lbs in 6 months. Veins in obliques etc.
I’m going to hold your hand when I read out the stack I was using.
1g test, 1g tren, 1g ment, 1g deca, 100mg dbol daily and 100mg anadrol daily.

I know, fucked.

Again, experienced no adverse affects other than horrible acne which I honestly think I would’ve gotten anyway. My brother and dad had worse than me believe it or not, just a genetic thing I’d assume. I was going bloods monthly and organ imaging quarterly. Organs: normal weights, no abnormalities. Bloodwork: only ever had elevated liver enzymes while on the orals and my hdl was low, my ldl was always in range. Blood pressure was always fine. Not trying to justify my usage, just being open with my experience.

After this 6 month bulk, I had decided to recomp on test tren and mast. I believe I was pinning 3cc of this blend 375 stuff. Did that for a couple months before I dropped the test and was running 0 estrogen. I know, fucked. Ran that for another 2 months, the decided to take 400 tren e daily (300e, 100 no ester) and 100mg stanalone (DHT) no ester. At the end of the 6 month cut, i completely recommend and stayed 220lbs but managed to get to single digit bodyfat.

Was time to bulk again, ran the same bulking stack i previously ran. Got 2 months into it before I got really sick with COVID and developed pericarditis. Hospital for two weeks, couldn’t eat at all, on so many opioids to help with the pain and they didn’t do jack. Couldn’t sip water without puking. No sleep or food for 2 weeks straight. Lost 40 lbs. couldn’t train for another 3 ish months.

Came off all gear, no trt.


Present time, getting back into it
Got cleared to excersise again in February.
From febuary -> now. 170lbs -> 190lbs

Feeling healthy, feeling great. Making great progress with a new training program and am happy to be back. I have no interest in running stupid cycles anymore. I’ve found that “cycle design” is better than just raw mg’s. (I know right? Crazy to believe) . Currently running test tren mast and eq. It’s giving a really solid look.

No im not intellectually disabled.


Labs I’ve used: syn, oxygen, apexa, deus, ace, helion, Chinese generics.

My only question is,
Where were your parents during all of this?

 

[Tren4Evah]

Thanks for being honest and telling what you did. You commented, "
Present time, getting back into it
Got cleared to excersise again in February.
From febuary -> now. 170lbs -> 190lbs"

What was wrong that had to be cleared? Were you sick, did the abuse come calling? No one can do that any age without it impacting you at some point. Being young can help you heal from the damage you were doing to your body but I doubt you were taking many supplements to protect yourself.
How did you go from being 220 ripped and I assume heavier as you learned nutrition to 170? Curious if you quit all PED's and training and why.

If you were getting SYN PED's when you were 15, do you mind me asking how old you are now?

The fact docs would not help you with hypogonadism at any age is wrong. This is when you hit puberty - some earlier / some later and hormones are essential to a normal life.

I hope your health is good @Tren4Evah as I doubt anyone can take that much for so long with no breaks and get away with it even if the issues come 10 years later. At least that has been my experience with guys who run massive cycles for long periods. I hope you are one of the few who are lucky and don't end up with medical issues.

Best of luck on your future.

I wrote that I had gotten Covid which led to pericarditis and I had lost 40lbs while in the hospital. After I had been discharged from the hospital I was on multiple corticosteroids and a statin I believe and I wasn’t allowed any sort of physical activity for roughly 3 and a half months. Lost the sorta drive to eat during that time as I just would have became a fat mess without proper physical activity. So by the time I was finally green lighted by my doctor to run around, shovel snow, etc, I was 170lbs.

You mention how my health is, to be honest other than that pericarditis, which all doctors said it was a very low chance it was caused my my heavy gear usage, my health has been great. All organs are healthy size and function with no abnormalities, skins clearing up due to me being on this antibiotic called doxycycline. Next step is accutane.

Now on the part where it might show up in ten years when I least expect it, it might. I very well could have screwed my future up.

Was on lots of health sups, I don’t even want to list the amount of health sups I was on as I can even remember all of them at the moment.

 

[Tren4Evah]

My only question is,
Where were your parents during all of this?

To be completely honest, my parents were somewhat neglectful and too caught up in their own lives, which I don’t blame them for but it had definitely caused lots of issues for me when I was growing up.

They are split. My mom is a very sweet lady who works Lots, same thing with my dad, works WAY too much. 18 hour days, and i really see it messing up his health which is sad to see. He’s actually pretty well off so I’d assume he deals with his mental health by supressing it and working lots.

They were unaware of my gear usage.

At a point in time when I was 15, they took me completely off my prescription TRT because I was ‘acting up’ (like a typical teenager probably would). They don’t know a lot about hormones.


Completely understand your “where were your parents” statement. Any good parents had they known if their son was taking ridiculous amounts of gear would have intervened

 

[Goldenrod]

I wrote that I had gotten Covid which led to pericarditis and I had lost 40lbs while in the hospital. After I had been discharged from the hospital I was on multiple corticosteroids and a statin I believe and I wasn’t allowed any sort of physical activity for roughly 3 and a half months. Lost the sorta drive to eat during that time as I just would have became a fat mess without proper physical activity. So by the time I was finally green lighted by my doctor to run around, shovel snow, etc, I was 170lbs.

You mention how my health is, to be honest other than that pericarditis, which all doctors said it was a very low chance it was caused my my heavy gear usage, my health has been great. All organs are healthy size and function with no abnormalities, skins clearing up due to me being on this antibiotic called doxycycline. Next step is accutane.

Now on the part where it might show up in ten years when I least expect it, it might. I very well could have screwed my future up.

Was on lots of health sups, I don’t even want to list the amount of health sups I was on as I can even remember all of them at the moment.

Sorry about the Covid (missed that), and I'm still curious how old you are now. At 15 I did not have the money to buy a ton of PED's or supplements as I was too busy working on the farm and going to school. Neither paid a cent lol.
I also didn't have the knowledge about supplements at 15, you must have had a mentor who needs a kick in the balls if he/she did not tell you not to do what you were doing, but good for them if they at least told you about or you researched supplements/herbs to protect yourself as best as possible.
I am not surprised Covid hit you bad enough to put you in the ER as your immune system would have taken a beating with all the PED's.

Glad you are healthy, unless you had a scan/untrasound of your organs there is no way to know what damage has been done. 75% of your liver can be useless and you may feel fine. Not saying that is the case, but before you can claim to be healthy you have to have a peak inside, 24 urinalysis and a blood panel by someone who knows what to look for (knows about your PED use).

Respectfully, you mention learning your lesson but you are on "test tren mast and eq" - by anyone's standards on 4 injectables which includes probably the most potent/harsh injectables trenbolone. You do not mention dosages. I can't imagine being your age - you never said your age but I assume early 20's, and needing that many PED's for what? Are you competing or getting ready for a competition.
If doing this in your 20's - where do you go from here, more each cycle or are you going back to TRT?

None of my business what you do but what your doing now is not healthy, you know what you did before was not healthy, and my comments are not meant to embarrass you or insult you - just a wake up call to consider your health before you continue to hammer PED's.
I believe I read you had to take Doxycycline and are going on accutane which is harsh on the liver. Not sure if that is now and while your skin in the largest organ and is an indicator of health inside, if using antibiotics and accutane to get it under control it isn't a sign of good health - just more stress on your body.

I think if everyone was honest there would be others who took high dosages too so dount you were alone but at 15 is a different story. How your parents, even if they had their own issues but they did live with you, didn't notice you went from a skinny kid to a ripped large man. The cost alone for a whole new wardrobe would have been insane.
Take my comments as someone trying to get you to think about what your doing and thinking about your long term health as you are right back to doing what you were doing before albeit maybe not to the same extent.

Again, best of luck whatever you do.