Chinese oils, peptides, and orals

3/5 for shipments from China, both of them that were seized had tabs so I’d like to think that tabs are a lot higher risk (one of them that got through had tabs & oils though)
 
I mean, its all possible with various risks attached.

In the case of peds etc Id just as soon support our local Canadian providers and pay a bit more for piece of mind as well as knowing it supports them.

At the end of the day, I still stick to the idea that while business is business, they are able to provide quality products and services for me and others that arent otherwise available. For that im quite grateful because it has helped me have a better life both mentally and physically.
I thought like that. Then I realized they get them from China, put their own label on the vial and charge a fortune. I just buy direct from China now, have been for 2 years now. Only shit thing is the Canadian dollar is so weak and they use American dollars
 
3/5 for shipments from China, both of them that were seized had tabs so I’d like to think that tabs are a lot higher risk (one of them that got through had tabs & oils though)
Was this recent? I have an order on its way. They reship oils for free but only once. After that I need to repay 50%. What do you think to the quality from China?
 
A popular gray vendor from China was just found to have massive endotoxin contamination in one of their batches of tirz30.

For an average adult, the safe limit is under 350.
Considering the typical high dosing of tirz, these are levels that could send you to the hospital.

Makes me wonder if local resellers ever test for endo.
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I got their oils and never had an issue. I got 12 vials of equipoise delivered and the guy I went halfs with went halfs again to test a vial from some lab he found on line. It came back normal. Worth a shot at 14 dollars us a vial

Yeah I'm just about to pull the trigger on 30 vials of test cyp.

It looks like with Chinese new year things are pretty backed up right now, my buddy finally received his after about 40 days of waiting lol
 
Was this recent? I have an order on its way. They reship oils for free but only once. After that I need to repay 50%. What do you think to the quality from China?

If you look hard enough you'll find guys who offer free reship to Canada but have a moq of 500.

There is another one without a moq that offer free reship but they are relatively new still
 
I thought like that. Then I realized they get them from China, put their own label on the vial and charge a fortune. I just buy direct from China now, have been for 2 years now. Only shit thing is the Canadian dollar is so weak and they use American dollars
All within the last 3-4 months, quality is pretty similar to domestic in my personal experience (effect wise, pip varies)
 
A popular gray vendor from China was just found to have massive endotoxin contamination in one of their batches of tirz30.

For an average adult, the safe limit is under 350.
Considering the typical high dosing of tirz, these are levels that could send you to the hospital.

Makes me wonder if local resellers ever test for endo.
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Why is all the important information redacted? How can we verify these reports?
 
All within the last 3-4 months, quality is pretty similar to domestic in my personal experience (effect wise, pip varies)
Did you get notified by the sender or cbsa? I've had stuff stuck in customs since January 14th. I've gave up all hope of receiving that
 
Why is all the important information redacted? How can we verify these reports?
Giving sources isn't allowed, and the name of the source would be exposed. If you know where to look, this info is all over the relevant forums and tg groups.

I pulled this from reddit where it's really strict on the rules.

@Taureau can I link to the actual jano report?
 
How about posting the Jano Task number so we can look for ourselves on Janos site?
 
How about posting the Jano Task number so we can look for ourselves on Janos site?

Yeah I'm probably just being overly cautious. Here's the details at jano.

Task: 136052
Unique key: A749RCAF7WEC

Mods pls delete if this isn't cool to post
 
Yeah I'm probably just being overly cautious. Here's the details at jano.

Task: 136052
Unique key: A749RCAF7WEC

Mods pls delete if this isn't cool to post
The shit thing for me is, I've ordered from this vendor several times and now I'm left wondering if I have a few grand worth of poison in my freezer right now. Hoping it was just this one batch of tirz. I'll probably send a few vials out to testides.com to verify.
 
The shit thing for me is, I've ordered from this vendor several times and now I'm left wondering if I have a few grand worth of poison in my freezer right now. Hoping it was just this one batch of tirz. I'll probably send a few vials out to testides.com to verify.
If it counts for anything, I have no idea who the “client” is. So that part means nothing to me. I must not be familiar with that source at all.
In the spirit of community safety, I think it’s important to communicate concerns like this.
Ignorance is bliss, but sepsis could be deadly.
 
If it counts for anything, I have no idea who the “client” is. So that part means nothing to me. I must not be familiar with that source at all.
In the spirit of community safety, I think it’s important to communicate concerns like this.
Ignorance is bliss, but sepsis could be deadly.
On telegram, customers organize group buys and test groups where they pool their money and volunteer one member to submit a vial for testing. This makes buying and testing much more affordable for everyone. That's the "client" in this case - a testing group. It's more trustworthy than a vendor-submitted sample, since it's actual buyers of a given batch submitting the test.

The vendor is listed as "manufacturer" on that test report. They're a big Chinese gray market supplier.
 
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A popular gray vendor from China was just

A popular gray vendor from China was just found to have massive endotoxin contamination in one of their batches of tirz30.

For an average adult, the safe limit is under 350.
Considering the typical high dosing of tirz, these are levels that could send you to the hospital.

Makes me wonder if local resellers ever test for endo.
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@vancitybb

Can you provide information that speaks to this unit of measure, how it is determined and where the safe limit of
350 has been determined and is specified?

Is that in comparison to the measure of 2300/vial reported?
So....350 what? 350/vial?

It appears you are saying the findings were 2300/vial and 350/vial is the "safe" dose. Clearly demonstrating high levels of endotoxins

Is that correct, and your understanding?

Where did the above information come from?

I don't understand this to be accurate. Please advise where it comes from.
 
@vancitybb

Can you provide information that speaks to this unit of measure, how it is determined and where the safe limit of
350 has been determined and is specified?

Is that in comparison to the measure of 2300/vial reported?
So....350 what? 350/vial?

It appears you are saying the findings were 2300/vial and 350/vial is the "safe" dose. Clearly demonstrating high levels of endotoxins

Is that correct, and your understanding?

Where did the above information come from?

I don't understand this to be accurate. Please advise where it comes from.
Sorry let me clarify.

The info is pulled from the FDA:

It refers to exposure in a 1 hr period, and the safe limit in humans is 5 EU per kg of body weight. Suppose your tirz dose is 15mg, you'd be tripling that limit when you do your weekly bolus shot (since that would be half the vial which contains a total of 2300 therefore 1150 in that one shot).

I got the 350 safe limit using 5 EU/kg for an "average" person around 150 - 170 lbs. A bigger dude could handle slightly more, but not by much.

The one hour window bit admittedly confuses me a little, as I understand endotoxins can also build up in your system with repeated exposure.

I hope I'm explaining this in a way that makes sense?

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