Which steroids don't shop up on test/estradiol labs?

kryogen

kryogen

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I sometimes need to blood test for testosterone and estradiol as part of my trt (120 test)
It kind of annoys me when it's during a small cycle (like 200 test, 50 deca, 100 primo) to stop and wait until levels go back to ok testable levels, it sometimes means not injecting for 2 weeks while I'm on test and deca.

So deca shows as test, tren shows as estradiol, anything decent that doesn't show as test or estradiol?
 
because according to steroid plotter, basically at this point im testing in 10 days so it means just 10mg next sunday to be around 750 for the test. And thats considering 80mg test last sunday, so it kind of trashes the mini blast I started :P Damn. Will test and then go back to it again I guess.
 
kryogen said:
I sometimes need to blood test for testosterone and estradiol as part of my trt (120 test)
It kind of annoys me when it's during a small cycle (like 200 test, 50 deca, 100 primo) to stop and wait until levels go back to ok testable levels, it sometimes means not injecting for 2 weeks while I'm on test and deca.

So deca shows as test, tren shows as estradiol, anything decent that doesn't show as test or estradiol?
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Yes, deca will increase your test numbers but not like Test in a 1 to 1 system. The only way to find out and what I did was 'dry runs' with time off to get back into regular parameters with different esters. It cost money for the blood tests but was worth it.
Tren - forget trying to figure out what your real estrogen number is. I don't use tren but so many people have indicated on it, their estrogen is very high.
If you are not sure - don't use any steroid plotters or half life calculations as you may find you no longer have a prescription if you react different or you metabolize fast or slow.
For example - with T Enanthate if I want to ensure my test is back into normal range (total test / not all other hormones and any endo that isn't an idiot will know you are taking other compounds or more that prescribed), I need 8-10 days. That is also on a dosage just above TRT range - not 200 mg.
Do you know what hormones they are testing as your total test and even your estrogen may drop down to normal after a certain number of days but your FSH and LH will be off a smart endo who understands steroids will know. It is also pretty hard to hide when you are a large man, ripped, and covered in veins and you walk into a TRT clinic, there is no hiding

If you took 350 mg of different steroids and are tested in 10 days - you are really pushing your luck.
No idea how long you have been on Primo but your free test is going to be through the roof as in multiples of the top of the range if you have been taking this for a decent time.

Just a suggestion - if on TRT and you like staying on TRT and they draw blood, stop months before the injection and get your own bloods drawn and see how it is going. I would not leave anything to chance.

Good luck!
 
thanks, last time I didn't take it seriously and my test was like 1500 and he freaked, asked for a retest, I waited 2 weeks and used my doses taken and half lives and calculated with that, test was like 700 all was good.

This time I wasn't expecting a test I got a surprise call. I think according to half lives I'll be good. I'll let you know. I didn't inject anything in 10 days should get me to +-700. Will see. I'll post results when I have them.

What do you mean by lh and fsh? Aren't they all near 0 on trt anyway?

Yeah I need my trt script so I kind of need to have ok tests.

Im small but ripped and full of veins yes. Like asian frame. Sadly im not asian, but anyway :P
 
kryogen said:
thanks, last time I didn't take it seriously and my test was like 1500 and he freaked, asked for a retest, I waited 2 weeks and used my doses taken and half lives and calculated with that, test was like 700 all was good.

This time I wasn't expecting a test I got a surprise call. I think according to half lives I'll be good. I'll let you know. I didn't inject anything in 10 days should get me to +-700. Will see. I'll post results when I have them.

What do you mean by lh and fsh? Aren't they all near 0 on trt anyway?

Yeah I need my trt script so I kind of need to have ok tests.

Im small but ripped and full of veins yes. Like asian frame. Sadly im not asian, but anyway :P
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Maybe your LH and FSH are 0 on your prescribed TRT dose but they weren't for me. They were lower than the normal but high doses of testosterone and other compounds are easily determined by a doctor who understands hormones pending you didn't take long enough off before blood draws. Roll the dice with sorting out half lives, etc. but some of that is mute anyway unless you know exactly how quickly you metabolize the compounds. Some docs only test total and free test or just total test and E. If that is the case, then it can easily be manipulated.

My point behind this is a simply look back at your previous normal tests when months of TRT will show you where you normally sit for all your hormones if they test them. I kept track of it and keep a copy of my own medical file.
Two different scenarios but similar - someone who wants TRT and used compounds to get their total test below the number required but if your being tested by an educated endocrinologist, they will know. If your on TRT and they know your numbers within a reasonable variable and all of the sudden a few markers are up significantly or down - they aren't stupid and you should be prepared to explain why.

If you like having TRT and don't want an educated doctor to take it from you - don't push your luck. If you think being on higher doses of test and deca and stopping 2 weeks before your blood draws and your numbers will be the same as they would be on a standard TRT dose you take and they know your normal hormone levels - I woud disagree. Unless you are an anomaly - most people I know stop months and do their own dry tests to be certain.

I mean pay for hormone profiles that do not go to a doctor and end up in your Canadian medical file - such as using a Naturopath's services. You get a copy and when the hormones are off, if they are off, the Naturopath will talk to you but you can tell them upfront this is not to be sent to a doctor and they can't. You paid for it - it is yours but if anything is off you will most likely have to pay a little more for a small consult.

Based on multiple tests I paid for - I know the number of days based on the compound and ester that is required to bring me back to the TRT numbers or close.

Do as you choose but I wouldn't wait weeks before a blood draw to drop the other compounds and go back to a normal TRT dose but each to their own.
 
Every steroid is a derivative of testosterone in some form so my layman's guess is everyone would show up in some way during hormonal blood tests. My doc asks me to wait 5 days after last injection for bloods. Sometimes I forget and go in after 2 days. I just tell him I forgot to wait and he understands. They're not police I don't know why they check our test levels anyway if they've been say 650 for years at 125mg a week why keep checking it over and over? Is it to see if we are fucking with it? My blood work checks 100 things so the test isn't even really a priority.
 
It feels like you're always playing a waiting game, right? When I was cycling, I found it tricky to balance my TRT and testing schedules too. I once had to pause everything for almost three weeks just to get my levels back to normal before a test! From what I’ve heard, some users have had success with things like masteron, which supposedly doesn’t show up as testosterone or estradiol. I haven’t tried it myself, but it’s been talked about in a few circles. If you’re looking for options, I stumbled across a site called Steroids Canada (steroidscanada.is), which might have some useful insights. Just be sure to do your research and stay safe! I'm still new to this forum, but I love sharing experiences and hearing what others have to say.
 
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Bigbear said:
Every steroid is a derivative of testosterone in some form so my layman's guess is everyone would show up in some way during hormonal blood tests. My doc asks me to wait 5 days after last injection for bloods. Sometimes I forget and go in after 2 days. I just tell him I forgot to wait and he understands. They're not police I don't know why they check our test levels anyway if they've been say 650 for years at 125mg a week why keep checking it over and over? Is it to see if we are fucking with it? My blood work checks 100 things so the test isn't even really a priority.
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no they do not all show in tot or free test #
 
animal-inside said:
Neither primo or mast shows up on your blood work except shbg???
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Not in my experience, but I don't use much when on my trt, 100 test and 50 mast or 25 primo. it will lower shbg and that will raise free testosterone, I noticed it may even lower total testosterone. I say it may lower total because less is bound to shbg and I've noticed my total test has been lower since adding mast or primo. On primo my e2 is low however.

I can't say what high levels of mast or primo would result.
 
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