What is everyone's injection frequency on TRT??

Cheapshot said:
I honestly don't know if I ever level out. Im always adding something or changing the dose. The plan is stay at 280 every 2 weeks for at least 10 months and get bloodwork
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I always used t400 with cyp and deconate or undeconate for trt before.
 
Sorbate said:
Well since I am faking it without blood work, I will never get it nailed down completely. Just going by feel.

I just added in 50mg of primo seeing if I could drop the adex to every other week.
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Have you ever tried using masteron or DHEA supplements to see if that would drop your estro sides?
 
Tom Simons said:
Have you ever tried using masteron or DHEA supplements to see if that would drop your estro sides?
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Masteron may help to lessen estrogen sides but DHEA will most likely make them worse as it will likely increase his testosterone which in turn will raise his estrogen making it worse.
 
I experimented for a bit, if using a gel 1x a day, if injection 1x a week seems to work perfectly, tried once every 2 weeks but you get un-optimal side effects.
 
Tom Simons said:
Which ester were you using?
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testosterone enanthate, bayer 250mg/amp from pharmacy, the packet inside says 200mg-400mg every 2-4weeks as well, i just did bloods actually with a 200mg injection my test was still high normal (almost above normal) after 7 days. Unfortunately that means my testosterone was above normal for the first week, and probably in the mid range by the 2nd week but i prefer less injections, i only do this when im living with the gf, if not i use the gel, 50mg 1x a day or 25mg 2x a day (androgel) and it gets me to high normal as well.

not sure why people don't like the gel, does the same thing, no injections, only issue is transfer of medicine if you're sleeping with someone, takes 30 seconds to put on
 
faller said:
Pretty much what I’ve been doing for the last couple years or so. Difference for me is far less pinning in a week, the shortest time between pins is 4 days and the longest is 9 to 10 days, volume is never the same I constantly switch it up. I keep a journal that way I can refer back. I don’t have bloods to back me up but one things for sure, the older I’ve gotten the more sensitive I’ve become to estrogen, the lump under the nip was always there but since changing up my pinning schedule it has completely disappeared.

I have added low dose tren recently which I keep on an even schedule, every other day. I’m not prepared to do the same with tren like I do with test. If someone out there has I’d be interested in hearing about it. I’d experiment myself but I’m in the zone now after a couple years of struggling with training and not willing to test the waters, somewhere down the road I will for sure.
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What sort of dose are you maintaining on average for your trt that your injections vary 4 to 9 days? Do you average over 2 weeks, or how does the math work out? Which ester? I find this intriguing, as it corresponds with my experience, that is, I can go up 20mg for a couple weeks, then drop and be fine, but it seems as though you are constantly varying your dose as the amount of half lives that expire after 9-10 days would put your trough at a very low point. That said, some of my best overall experience on trt was when my trough was 4-500.

@Swole_T1D Similar question as above, what are you aiming at for your average weekly dosage? How's libido?
 
resilient1 said:
What sort of dose are you maintaining on average for your trt that your injections vary 4 to 9 days? Do you average over 2 weeks, or how does the math work out? Which ester? I find this intriguing, as it corresponds with my experience, that is, I can go up 20mg for a couple weeks, then drop and be fine, but it seems as though you are constantly varying your dose as the amount of half lives that expire after 9-10 days would put your trough at a very low point. That said, some of my best overall experience on trt was when my trough was 4-500.

@Swole_T1D Similar question as above, what are you aiming at for your average weekly dosage? How's libido?
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There is no math to it, I didn’t over think it. I keep track of when, how much and which muscle for each pin on a calendar. So looking back at the calendar the lowest dose, using T-400, was 40 and the highest was 400, the longest between pins was 11 days and the shortest was 3.

Is this a messed up protocol? Honestly don’t know, what I do know is I feel “normal “. I have good days and bad, my libido can be high and then low, I’ll have tons of energy some days and lethargic the next, I’ll feel happy and sociable and other days just down right bitchy. More or less feeling how we used to feel back in the day before steroids.

The constant pursuit of having stable blood levels, constant high libido and feeling on top of the world all the time is not how we roll naturally, we’re all over the map.
 
faller said:
There is no math to it, I didn’t over think it. I keep track of when, how much and which muscle for each pin on a calendar. So looking back at the calendar the lowest dose, using T-400, was 40 and the highest was 400, the longest between pins was 11 days and the shortest was 3.

Is this a messed up protocol? Honestly don’t know, what I do know is I feel “normal “. I have good days and bad, my libido can be high and then low, I’ll have tons of energy some days and lethargic the next, I’ll feel happy and sociable and other days just down right bitchy. More or less feeling how we used to feel back in the day before steroids.

The constant pursuit of having stable blood levels, constant high libido and feeling on top of the world all the time is not how we roll naturally, we’re all over the map.
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I totally agree with your views on 'normal', and it does seem that too many guys tend to have unrealistic expectations when it comes to trt. From my experience, the more variability in my blood levels the more challenges I seem to face. And, a constant high libido is totally unrealistic and an unhealthy pursuit. So long as I can perform when I need to I'm good, and I have no issue using cialis. That said, I do vary my dosages, but within a tighter range, to mimic some natural variability. It's also why I believe many guys do so well on less frequent shots.
Thanks for your reply.
 
faller said:
There is no math to it, I didn’t over think it. I keep track of when, how much and which muscle for each pin on a calendar. So looking back at the calendar the lowest dose, using T-400, was 40 and the highest was 400, the longest between pins was 11 days and the shortest was 3.

Is this a messed up protocol? Honestly don’t know, what I do know is I feel “normal “. I have good days and bad, my libido can be high and then low, I’ll have tons of energy some days and lethargic the next, I’ll feel happy and sociable and other days just down right bitchy. More or less feeling how we used to feel back in the day before steroids.

The constant pursuit of having stable blood levels, constant high libido and feeling on top of the world all the time is not how we roll naturally, we’re all over the map.
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100% agree with your last paragraph. I think we pursue stable test levels to the point of being unnatural.

Same with trying to maximize free test and minimize E2. It puts you in a flight or fight state for too long and you feel less than optimal “for you”. I have learned that at TRT levels just let the body do what it wants to do and accept that as your “normal“. THEN adjust test dosages as required.


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faller said:
There is no math to it, I didn’t over think it. I keep track of when, how much and which muscle for each pin on a calendar. So looking back at the calendar the lowest dose, using T-400, was 40 and the highest was 400, the longest between pins was 11 days and the shortest was 3.

Is this a messed up protocol? Honestly don’t know, what I do know is I feel “normal “. I have good days and bad, my libido can be high and then low, I’ll have tons of energy some days and lethargic the next, I’ll feel happy and sociable and other days just down right bitchy. More or less feeling how we used to feel back in the day before steroids.

The constant pursuit of having stable blood levels, constant high libido and feeling on top of the world all the time is not how we roll naturally, we’re all over the map.
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That’s why I prefer the gel these days when I can use it, I think the fluctuation of high/lows are quite important and with the gel you can get that daily.

Certain body processes happen when levels are low, I have a few ideas but of course non can be verified without a study being done. However I will throw one out there that I think chronically elevated testosterone levels (even at high normal) induces some level of insulin resistance overtime.

From what I saw testosterone levels naturally spike at night, stay elevated until morning before tapering the rest of the day. After switching to the gel and getting daily fluctuations in testosterone I’ve never slept better
 
I think it makes sense to have slightly fluctuating levels. I wonder if we can get propionate on a trt script? My doctor only mentioned Cypionate and enanthate.
 
Negan said:
I think it makes sense to have slightly fluctuating levels. I wonder if we can get propionate on a trt script? My doctor only mentioned Cypionate and enanthate.
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you can get androgel in canada
doesnt work for everyone i guess due to skin permeability but i get high normal total and free testosterone with a fairly conservative dose 5g of gel a day (or 50mg of testosterone)

probably cant use it if you sleep with a girl or youd need to shower multiple times a day
 
Rocky said:
you can get androgel in canada
doesnt work for everyone i guess due to skin permeability but i get high normal total and free testosterone with a fairly conservative dose 5g of gel a day (or 50mg of testosterone)

probably cant use it if you sleep with a girl or youd need to shower multiple times a day
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I do sleep with women and I have young daughters who like to snuggle so I'm not into the gel
 
faller said:
There is no math to it, I didn’t over think it. I keep track of when, how much and which muscle for each pin on a calendar. So looking back at the calendar the lowest dose, using T-400, was 40 and the highest was 400, the longest between pins was 11 days and the shortest was 3.

Is this a messed up protocol? Honestly don’t know, what I do know is I feel “normal “. I have good days and bad, my libido can be high and then low, I’ll have tons of energy some days and lethargic the next, I’ll feel happy and sociable and other days just down right bitchy. More or less feeling how we used to feel back in the day before steroids.

The constant pursuit of having stable blood levels, constant high libido and feeling on top of the world all the time is not how we roll naturally, we’re all over the map.
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If you never have any lows how do you know when you are having highs. I believe that is why constant even levels becomes meh after a while. Even injecting ethnate once a week is boring after a while, after a while you know exactly what to expect.
 
Urologist wants me to do 125mg every two weeks, lol like I'm gonna do that. Anyway, I'm making it 125 every week pinned mwf, I'll drop it down a month before bloodwork.

I can't wait to get my libido back, 2 weeks in and still no morning wood.
 
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