What are your experiences with RU58841 on cycle?

[CoolRick]

I've been using minoxidil for about 7 months now and recently introduced RU58841 3-4 weeks ago and I'm pleased with the results. Added in GHK-Cu last week and I swear I'm seeing my density improve daily. My hair and nails are growing a lot faster too.

I'm looking to start my next cycle soon which will most likely feature, test cyp, boldenone cyp, and NPP. I haven't used testosterone in over 2 years. If needed I can use some pumpkin seed oil if I need to lower dht systemically.

Just curious to see what kind of experiences you guys have had while using RU58841 while on cycle and which compounds you were using. Thanks.

 

[kmangar93]

I've been using minoxidil for about 7 months now and recently introduced RU58841 3-4 weeks ago and I'm pleased with the results. Added in GHK-Cu last week and I swear I'm seeing my density improve daily. My hair and nails are growing a lot faster too.

I'm looking to start my next cycle soon which will most likely feature, test cyp, boldenone cyp, and NPP. I haven't used testosterone in over 2 years. If needed I can use some pumpkin seed oil if I need to lower dht systemically.

Just curious to see what kind of experiences you guys have had while using RU58841 while on cycle and which compounds you were using. Thanks.

What is your dosage for daily use of RU58841

 

[CoolRick]

What is your dosage for daily use of RU58841

50mg per day

 

[logan11847]

I've been using minoxidil for about 7 months now and recently introduced RU58841 3-4 weeks ago and I'm pleased with the results. Added in GHK-Cu last week and I swear I'm seeing my density improve daily. My hair and nails are growing a lot faster too.

I'm looking to start my next cycle soon which will most likely feature, test cyp, boldenone cyp, and NPP. I haven't used testosterone in over 2 years. If needed I can use some pumpkin seed oil if I need to lower dht systemically.

Just curious to see what kind of experiences you guys have had while using RU58841 while on cycle and which compounds you were using. Thanks.

Ru58841 is the shit , I’ve never lost hair on anything but tbol and when I did start to shed a tiny bit I used ru and it solved it almost instantly , no minoxidil either.

As far as I understand anecdotally ru is much stronger than anything like fin/dut/5ar blockers in general

 

[logan11847]

I've been using minoxidil for about 7 months now and recently introduced RU58841 3-4 weeks ago and I'm pleased with the results. Added in GHK-Cu last week and I swear I'm seeing my density improve daily. My hair and nails are growing a lot faster too.

I'm looking to start my next cycle soon which will most likely feature, test cyp, boldenone cyp, and NPP. I haven't used testosterone in over 2 years. If needed I can use some pumpkin seed oil if I need to lower dht systemically.

Just curious to see what kind of experiences you guys have had while using RU58841 while on cycle and which compounds you were using. Thanks.

Ru58841 is the shit , I’ve never lost hair on anything but tbol and when I did start to shed a tiny bit I used ru and it solved it almost instantly , no minox in either.

As far as I understand anecdotally ru is much stronger than anything like fin/dut/5ar blockers in general

 

[CoolRick]

Ru58841 is the shit , I’ve never lost hair on anything but tbol and when I did start to shed a tiny bit I used ru and it solved it almost instantly , no minox in either.

As far as I understand anecdotally ru is much stronger than anything like fin/dut/5ar blockers in general

Besides some natural diffuse thinning I believe a combination of high test + tren made for a situation where my hair density was noticably less.

Considering that even at my worst I was better off than both of my brothers who don't use AAS I'd say I need to be careful but I'm not certain anything other than tren really worked against me that much. Still, I'd want some protection and even restoration of whatever I have.

Do you use RU all the time and with other compounds?

 

[logan11847]

I have some but haven’t been using it, have not shedded at all since the tbol. I’ve been looking into making my own, or kx826. Probably the most straight forward thing you can do and is significantly cheaper

 

[logan11847]

I have some but haven’t been using it, have not shedded at all since the tbol. I’ve been looking into making my own, or kx826. Probably the most straight forward thing you can do and is significantly cheaper

 

[Goldenrod]

I've been using minoxidil for about 7 months now and recently introduced RU58841 3-4 weeks ago and I'm pleased with the results. Added in GHK-Cu last week and I swear I'm seeing my density improve daily. My hair and nails are growing a lot faster too.

I'm looking to start my next cycle soon which will most likely feature, test cyp, boldenone cyp, and NPP. I haven't used testosterone in over 2 years. If needed I can use some pumpkin seed oil if I need to lower dht systemically.

Just curious to see what kind of experiences you guys have had while using RU58841 while on cycle and which compounds you were using. Thanks.

If you get legit RU5881, it is a potent topical solution that blocks scalp androgen receptors from DHT, essentially binding and competing with DHT. I found it worked well, but if you are going to lose your hair you are putting off the inevitable and if taking high amounts of androgen and susceptible to MPB, it will help but not completely stop it. The older you get, if susceptible the more hair loss you may notice.

I have read different info and I am not sure which is correct which drives me nuts. One write up said it failed against prostate cancer but a notable side effect was hair growth. When I read deeper, it did not fail - the company just decided they could use it more effectively (it did not fail in human trials) for hair loss and dermatological problems. The question is if it is that good, why did it not make it to market as minoxidil and propecia are popular treatments. Again, what I read was the company went through a restructuring and this was dropped after the animal studies. It was apparently became an orphan of corporate restructure when:
The Hoechst Acquisition: Roussel-Uclaf was acquired by Hoechst AG, which subsequently shut down the original endocrinology research department.

If it does what it is supposed to do, it should be better than propecia/dutasteride as it doesn't potentially cause sexual and adrogenic side effects like propecia/dutasteride. After reaching the blood stream, it is pretty much inert or so 'should' be safer.
You research a lot so probably know all this anyway.
I am mostly TRT and find it works very well against healthy or slightly higher than normal testosterone levels. As I increase this into the 250 mg range, I get more shedding which stops when I go back to 100-125 mg/week.
NPP and Boldenone are both pretty hair safe from what I have notices. This sort of brings up a topic I was going to start a thread on - anabolic vs. androgenic ratios and side effects like hair loss. sorry, @CoolRick - getting off topic.
If you feel it is working, excellent. When you say you see results in 3-4 weeks, do you mean less shedding or your hair is thickening.

It is pretty normal for men to go through natural shedding and then your hair grows back, but this only happens so many times and the more often it occurs the slower/thinner the hair may be. I have noticed hair shedding when I increase the amount of testosterone, boldenone, and deca/npp but it goes back to normal when I stop. My 'increase' is nothing compared to what others take.

Small concern with health, but I don't think anyone regardless of the shave/hat comments, wants to lose their hair.

 

[CoolRick]

If you get legit RU5881, it is a potent topical solution that blocks scalp androgen receptors from DHT, essentially binding and competing with DHT. I found it worked well, but if you are going to lose your hair you are putting off the inevitable and if taking high amounts of androgen and susceptible to MPB, it will help but not completely stop it. The older you get, if susceptible the more hair loss you may notice.

I have read different info and I am not sure which is correct which drives me nuts. One write up said it failed against prostate cancer but a notable side effect was hair growth. When I read deeper, it did not fail - the company just decided they could use it more effectively (it did not fail in human trials) for hair loss and dermatological problems. The question is if it is that good, why did it not make it to market as minoxidil and propecia are popular treatments. Again, what I read was the company went through a restructuring and this was dropped after the animal studies. It was apparently became an orphan of corporate restructure when:
The Hoechst Acquisition: Roussel-Uclaf was acquired by Hoechst AG, which subsequently shut down the original endocrinology research department.

If it does what it is supposed to do, it should be better than propecia/dutasteride as it doesn't potentially cause sexual and adrogenic side effects like propecia/dutasteride. After reaching the blood stream, it is pretty much inert or so 'should' be safer.
You research a lot so probably know all this anyway.
I am mostly TRT and find it works very well against healthy or slightly higher than normal testosterone levels. As I increase this into the 250 mg range, I get more shedding which stops when I go back to 100-125 mg/week.
NPP and Boldenone are both pretty hair safe from what I have notices. This sort of brings up a topic I was going to start a thread on - anabolic vs. androgenic ratios and side effects like hair loss. sorry, @CoolRick - getting off topic.
If you feel it is working, excellent. When you say you see results in 3-4 weeks, do you mean less shedding or your hair is thickening.

It is pretty normal for men to go through natural shedding and then your hair grows back, but this only happens so many times and the more often it occurs the slower/thinner the hair may be. I have noticed hair shedding when I increase the amount of testosterone, boldenone, and deca/npp but it goes back to normal when I stop. My 'increase' is nothing compared to what others take.

Small concern with health, but I don't think anyone regardless of the shave/hat comments, wants to lose their hair.

I too was skeptical about why it never made it to the market as a legitimate drug, but why would it need to? The research chemical market is huge, why bother with the years and tons of money for approval when they can simply produce it and sell it? At least that's the most plausible reason I could see. Same idea I suppose for SARMS, even some steroids like EQ or tren ace and e never made it to market for human consumption.

I have seen reports of heart related issues but that seems to be a vocal minority. Nothing substantial that can dig up on affecting libido or fertility either. It's hard to know how much it's affecting my libido as I'm now 4 weeks and a few days post cycle so there is always an adjustment period, but I feel good otherwise. I may try cutting my dose in half to see what happens there.

My density is improving overall and the "mature hairline" areas are getting filled in nicely as well which is the most stubborn area I'd say. My hair itself in general has always been really course. With the addition of the GHK-Cu peptide i assume it's accelerating growth so I'm seeing the reversal of the miniturized hairs growing very quickly. Now keep in mind I'm not growing back hair from having bald spots it's just some minor diffuse thinning.

I have one brother that's basically bald now and another that's thinned much more than me despite no AAS usage for either of them. I think it's safe to say I'd thin anyways but AAS, highly androgenic compounds in particular, definitely did something to to speed it up. I could tell that even with primo I had to get hair cuts less often.

My nandrolone only cycles have been successful in the hair department, causing no hairloss and I even grew some back while treating it with either topical oils or minoxidil + dermastamping I plan on staying away from anything super androgenic going forward, DHTs, tren etc. and I should be fine I think. I have no need or desire for those things anyways. If I really have to, I'll use nandrolone only going forward as I actually like it alot anyways.

I will likely take some pumpkin seed oil on this next cycle for my prostate as well. Having been off gear for an extended time I realized that exposure to more androgens definitely affected it. Not to the point of BPH but enough for me to keep an eye on it, especially as I get older.

Have you noticed RU58841 to slow down or stop excessive shedding on cycle?

 

[bigsword]

50mg ru 58841 + topical minoxidil + 1.25mg oral finasteride 3x a week did absolutely wonders for my hair on pretty much all cycles. I am on all 3 all the time.

No issues with the ru but my friend says it makes his heart feel a bit strange. Minor shortness of breath, and it started for him a few weeks into it so just keep an eye on that. Me, personally, no issues!

 

[CoolRick]

50mg ru 58841 + topical minoxidil + 1.25mg oral finasteride 3x a week did absolutely wonders for my hair on pretty much all cycles. I am on all 3 all the time.

No issues with the ru but my friend says it makes his heart feel a bit strange. Minor shortness of breath, and it started for him a few weeks into it so just keep an eye on that. Me, personally, no issues!

That's reassuring. Do you mind if I ask what condition your hair was in prior to using those three and also what kind of compounds you typically use?

 

[Goldenrod]

I too was skeptical about why it never made it to the market as a legitimate drug, but why would it need to? The research chemical market is huge, why bother with the years and tons of money for approval when they can simply produce it and sell it? At least that's the most plausible reason I could see. Same idea I suppose for SARMS, even some steroids like EQ or tren ace and e never made it to market for human consumption.

I have seen reports of heart related issues but that seems to be a vocal minority. Nothing substantial that can dig up on affecting libido or fertility either. It's hard to know how much it's affecting my libido as I'm now 4 weeks and a few days post cycle so there is always an adjustment period, but I feel good otherwise. I may try cutting my dose in half to see what happens there.

My density is improving overall and the "mature hairline" areas are getting filled in nicely as well which is the most stubborn area I'd say. My hair itself in general has always been really course. With the addition of the GHK-Cu peptide i assume it's accelerating growth so I'm seeing the reversal of the miniturized hairs growing very quickly. Now keep in mind I'm not growing back hair from having bald spots it's just some minor diffuse thinning.

I have one brother that's basically bald now and another that's thinned much more than me despite no AAS usage for either of them. I think it's safe to say I'd thin anyways but AAS, highly androgenic compounds in particular, definitely did something to to speed it up. I could tell that even with primo I had to get hair cuts less often.

My nandrolone only cycles have been successful in the hair department, causing no hairloss and I even grew some back while treating it with either topical oils or minoxidil + dermastamping I plan on staying away from anything super androgenic going forward, DHTs, tren etc. and I should be fine I think. I have no need or desire for those things anyways. If I really have to, I'll use nandrolone only going forward as I actually like it alot anyways.

I will likely take some pumpkin seed oil on this next cycle for my prostate as well. Having been off gear for an extended time I realized that exposure to more androgens definitely affected it. Not to the point of BPH but enough for me to keep an eye on it, especially as I get older.

Have you noticed RU58841 to slow down or stop excessive shedding on cycle?

No, not really - as I get older I simply have less hair albeit I have no loss of hair in the back or top of the head, just typical minor MPB. I am older than you and with the dosages many use taking multiple products may help but I do not believe it will stop the shedding. When I was in my 30's, I had no hair loss. It wasn't really until my 40's that I noticed it.
TRT or the typical TRT plus another compound in low dosages, I find RU helps keep shedding down as does Proscar (buying propecia is foolish/proscar is 5 mg and you can cut it into 4's or 5's and it is a fraction of the cost of the same drug in 1 mg pills, and most insurance plans don't cover propecia but cover proscar). Any reasonable doctor who will put you on propecia, will prescribe proscar and just use a sharp knife or pill cutter.

I still believe your body goes through natural shedding and regrowth stages but the more of these you push yourself through with excess hormones the thinner and less thick your hair comes back.
It is just like the concept of taking orals that only send my liver enzymes into an unhealthy range while on cycle, and then they come back down, until at some point they no longer do and you have damaged your liver.
Back on track - RU is worth a good run as it works for many at slowing down or stopping depending on your genetics and steroid usage. If what I read is true which is backed up by the name of the company that bought the prostate medication. It never failed, they just saw a better chance of using it for hair and dermatological uses. For whatever reason, restructuring stopped the tests and there was very little on humans (some but not much). Believe it was all on rats and monkeys. Keep in mind it is early and on my first cup of coffee lol.

The original tests did not show any negative side effects or issues to stop the studies, but keep in mind I am not researching right now - using the few brain cells that are firing at 3 AM in the morning.