Tren and sleep...

[torauntjemima]

Maybe this is a stupid question, but...

We know that sleep and diet are both extremely important aspects (and arguably the most important) when it comes to growing muscle.

I have read enough posts from members here to wonder something. If Tren is so dastardly to a sleep schedule, some claiming only 3 hours of sleep a night, is it just such a powerful compound that it can overcome the lost growth from lack of sleep?

 

[Sorbate]

You may not have a sleep issue on tren. I don’t.

 

[BanditNOLIMIT]

From my experience tren is a bit of an anomaly. My sleep will be shit but my body composition will continue to improve. I’ve only had short term exposure to the drug though. It might be a different story if I were to try to sustain that over the long term.

 

[torauntjemima]

You may not have a sleep issue on tren. I don’t.

I am on the edge of taking a TMT thing I got a while back, once I am 4 weeks into my test E cycle so I am leveled off. Test/mast/Tren, all enanthate.

Maybe I won't have any sides, but I'm just curious. I love my sleep, probably as much as working out.

I didn't have any sides with my test, or dbol or anavar and very little with superdrol... Just some lethargy near the end.

/shrug

 

[torauntjemima]

From my experience tren is a bit of an anomaly. My sleep will be shit but my body composition will continue to improve. I’ve only had short term exposure to the drug though. It might be a different story if I were to try to sustain that over the long term.

Kinda what I figured. This won't be long term for me if I pull the trigger.. probably in the 8 week ballpark range and much less if it doesn't agree with me.

 

[BanditNOLIMIT]

Kinda what I figured. This won't be long term for me if I pull the trigger.. probably in the 8 week ballpark range and much less if it doesn't agree with me.

I also noticed that the impact on sleep was a lot more prevalent in the first week or 2. After that it began to improve. Adding Ashwaganda to my PM supplement stack seemed to help as well

 

[torauntjemima]

As someone with no mast or Tren experience, I am just trying to cover all the nagging questions in my mind ahead of time.

 

[Sorbate]

I would sweat like a pig at night on dbol. But didn’t get the bloat and moon face. But even on a large dose of tren, no issues sleeping.

Couldn’t bust a nut if my life depended on it though, lol.

You won’t know till you try.

If you get bad sides from tren, and are running a decent dose of test, try reducing your test to trt levels when you run tren the next time.

 

[storman]

I wake up to piss more on tren but that mostly because im cutting and carbs are low.
Also with tren E i can get acid reflux during the night

 

[Brbpuppy]

Maybe this is a stupid question, but...

We know that sleep and diet are both extremely important aspects (and arguably the most important) when it comes to growing muscle.

I have read enough posts from members here to wonder something. If Tren is so dastardly to a sleep schedule, some claiming only 3 hours of sleep a night, is it just such a powerful compound that it can overcome the lost growth from lack of sleep?

Dose dependant.
Also, when people use Tren they’re often in a cutting phase, which can make sleeping a full night harder for a lot of guys as is.

 

[torauntjemima]

I would sweat like a pig at night on dbol. But didn’t get the bloat and moon face. But even on a large dose of tren, no issues sleeping.

Couldn’t bust a nut if my life depended on it though, lol.

You won’t know till you try.

If you get bad sides from tren, and are running a decent dose of test, try reducing your test to trt levels when you run tren the next time.

The dose is 125mg/ml of each... 375 total.

 

[Sorbate]

The dose is 125mg/ml of each... 375 total.

I would be fine on that dose.

 

[torauntjemima]

I would be fine on that dose.

I would be injecting twice weekly as it's enanthate.... Are you referencing that dose with your comment? That's 250 each a week.

 

[BanditNOLIMIT]

I would be injecting twice weekly as it's enanthate.... Are you referencing that dose with your comment? That's 250 each a week.

Is this a blend you plan on running? Do yourself a favour and keep that on the shelf. Get yourself a vial of tren ace. Tren E is often referred to as “side effects in a bottle”

 

[Tacitus_Nero]

TNT is damn near my favourite compound I’ve ever ran. Side effects included night sweats, high blood pressure, and numbness (my arms would get pins and needles when I slept). That was at 500mg test E, 500mg tren E.

 

[torauntjemima]

Is this a blend you plan on running? Do yourself a favour and keep that on the shelf. Get yourself a vial of tren ace. Tren E is often referred to as “side effects in a bottle”

Hmm, interesting. It is a blend from a UGL. Prepackaged. I've had it in my box for a while and want to give Tren a go, but with less injections, preferably.

TNT is damn near my favourite compound I’ve ever ran. Side effects included night sweats, high blood pressure, and numbness (my arms would get pins and needles when I slept). That was at 500mg test E, 500mg tren E.

It's TMT.. I think from Dracoex, IIRC.

 

[Sorbate]

I would be injecting twice weekly as it's enanthate.... Are you referencing that dose with your comment? That's 250 each a week.

250 mg of tren a week I wouldn’t run.

 

[torauntjemima]

250 mg of tren a week I wouldn’t run.

That's kinda where I am sitting. It seems like a large dose with no previous baseline usage to gauge it against. I am considering half a ml twice a week instead, and supplementing it with more test separately.

 

[Sorbate]

If you have never used it before, better to go low then too much. Tren is stupidly powerful on your mind. Worst part is, you may not realize that you are being an ass.

If I run it again, I wouldn’t run more than 100-125 at most with 125 test. I got good gains last time. Worst part about tren for me is the look is temporary.

 

[CdnRgr]

You may not have a sleep issue on tren. I don’t.

Me neither...sleep as shitty as normal lOL