Any reason why syn is using test decanoate in there test c and e?
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Riddle me this everyone....
How do you know the sample was, in fact, syn?
This is one of the many problems with janoshik testing......
I could send in a sample and call it any lab.....my motivations may be to promote the lab....or destroy it. So I pick and choose what to send based on my intent.
This whole thing stinks. No lab is going to substitute half of a test e product for test d.
This is one of the many many reasons why janoshik testing means virtually nothing in most circumstances.
Janoshik works for nothing mote than end users submitting BLIND samples just to check and balance what was in the bottle they had sampled. Nothing more, nothing less.
Labs could do it too potentially to sample their raws received....but once it becomes advertising...and not internal qaqc...... and... Its fucked. All i have to do is send in a sample of a raw i know is good....then process and bottle it at half concentration....or even with another raw. You will never know....amd thats the point.
And what if a guy runs his own test amd it comes up shit.....but the super duper awesome labs has results that state otherwise. Who's gonna get shit? Not the lab.
You guys continue to invest in a thing that doesn't exist because you want it to be true.
Start thinking objectively and critically folks.
And before anyone makes silly comments...
The sample was not submitted by the lab.
No, I am not a syn fuckboy. I have no vested interest in that lab. However, it is a top tier lab that cares about what it puts out and has for a very long time. Longer than most will understand...but some will.
I just refuse to let this fuckery gain any traction under the lies it has been built upon and the lack of people using their brains and just following the herd like lemmings off a cliff.
Be better folks.
I won't ever speak poorly about what janoshik is....used in that circumstance and it has value to the community.....but believing it is a third party gold standard of qaqc ensuring quality products that uses selective results as advertising is completely foolish.....and so is questing a well established lab with results that anyone could have sent in for whatever reason they chose.
I understand that guys may chose to share results....but they can never be considered proof of anything because the system can be manipulated if one so chose to.
How do you know the sample was, in fact, syn?
This is one of the many problems with janoshik testing......
I could send in a sample and call it any lab.....my motivations may be to promote the lab....or destroy it. So I pick and choose what to send based on my intent.
This whole thing stinks. No lab is going to substitute half of a test e product for test d.
This is one of the many many reasons why janoshik testing means virtually nothing in most circumstances.
Janoshik works for nothing mote than end users submitting BLIND samples just to check and balance what was in the bottle they had sampled. Nothing more, nothing less.
Labs could do it too potentially to sample their raws received....but once it becomes advertising...and not internal qaqc...... and... Its fucked. All i have to do is send in a sample of a raw i know is good....then process and bottle it at half concentration....or even with another raw. You will never know....amd thats the point.
And what if a guy runs his own test amd it comes up shit.....but the super duper awesome labs has results that state otherwise. Who's gonna get shit? Not the lab.
You guys continue to invest in a thing that doesn't exist because you want it to be true.
Start thinking objectively and critically folks.
And before anyone makes silly comments...
The sample was not submitted by the lab.
No, I am not a syn fuckboy. I have no vested interest in that lab. However, it is a top tier lab that cares about what it puts out and has for a very long time. Longer than most will understand...but some will.
I just refuse to let this fuckery gain any traction under the lies it has been built upon and the lack of people using their brains and just following the herd like lemmings off a cliff.
Be better folks.
I won't ever speak poorly about what janoshik is....used in that circumstance and it has value to the community.....but believing it is a third party gold standard of qaqc ensuring quality products that uses selective results as advertising is completely foolish.....and so is questing a well established lab with results that anyone could have sent in for whatever reason they chose.
I understand that guys may chose to share results....but they can never be considered proof of anything because the system can be manipulated if one so chose to.
I’m not a customer of Syn, but regardless I’d want more than this to convince me it was the Syn everyone here is thinking of.
This is suspect at best. And I have a really tough time believing the real Syn is going to pump out a 50% product…..that’s laughable
This is suspect at best. And I have a really tough time believing the real Syn is going to pump out a 50% product…..that’s laughable
Well said, good sir Newf. There is a lot of room for abuse and uncertainty with these tests.
Thats what my argument has always been about. Yes there have been a lot of other hiccups along the way that ive called bullshit on and fir good reason however.....the main point has always been.....
Beliving that a lab is great because it shows you something they want you to see and they have total control of doesn't ensure the receipt of a quality product....nor does some random testing that is put out by some stranger....even if his or her intentions are good.
You just cant be sure.....no one can.
The old adage. Vote with your money. If Syn was putting out shit product they would have been out of business long ago. 
@biguglynewf not sure why you are so riled up. Calm the fuck down.
Im sick of people giving so much weight to jano testing when it means virtually nothing.
No one ever wants to listen to the reasons why.
I was hoping that this could be a good example to help demonstrate the problems associated with it in hopes that people would wake up and start to pay attention.
The calm the fuck down commentary isn't necessary. If you thought it was, a dm may have been more appropriate.
Im far from being riled up.....just annoyed at groundhog day with this service that a giant section of the community believes provides them with something that it completely doesn't....
If this is the tests from sst forum then the pic of the vial did have a cap on it but it wasnt an actual syn vial with a syn crimped flip top cap. It was a labeless clear vial with a twist on blue cap! Just reporting the news accurately if thats the tests buddy is worried about.
Have you personally sent anything to be tested, because these have the same date and task number from the ones posted at CJM but under a different name.
So are they yours?
Or maybe you think this place is like facebook where you just repost stupid shit?
This is actually very believable and I'd hedge a very hefty bet to be real. Attached to the report is the vial of Syn cypionate that Jano recieved and it is an untampered syn vial with the flip cap still on and the crimp still original.
The Test Enth testing is absolutely suspicious in a clear vial with a twist off lid, it could literally be anything (as you said).
But if it's true for the cypionate (which it very likely appears to be) then I am positive it is true for the enanthate, as the enanthate is much more likely to cause PIP which would be the entire purpose of doing this in the first place.
This does not make syn a bad lab by any means. The testing actually kind of shows otherwise... They made a very accurate product with less PIP. This post is not jumping in to attack syn in the slightest.
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Disagree. But thats ok.
It would be a boring place if we all thought the same way.
My post really isn't about syn per say either. It could be any lab.....Other than neither of those records of testing can either be proven or disproven. In this case though....its syn shouldn't be taking any heat for these as they are taken around the boards.
And that is the whole problem.
And it's interesting to me that they are making their way around the boards in the manner that they are.
Regardless....the point remains....they prove or disprove absolutely nothing.
Vial or no vial. It can all be fabricated and is why a jano result means zero for everyone expect possibly the person that sent it in.
People should use the service for what it's for and what it can possibly do, no for what it cant.
Still a flawed service....but thats a whole other discussion that no one seems to want to acknowledge.
Sorry. I thought you were sack kicking meTotally kidding and I agree with you
Said the same about peptide testing.
Yep, there ain't no syn vial there , even if it was, dont mean it has syn product in it... Just more bullshit.
i believe they’ve changed their packaging for orals. at least the order i just got is different.
Id love to see the white cap logo on the bottle that Janoshik has.