road to lean

Goldenrod said:
most people think of Primo
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too much money for me.

Goldenrod said:
using script or UGL HGH
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ugl. I test all of it.

Goldenrod said:
hat high of a dose without BG going up / and IGF.
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reta works wonders on bg numbers

as for the igf, I just read this yesterday

The Genetics of GH Response (ΔIGF-1)

Are You A Hypo- or Non- Responder to GH?

GHR gene polymorphisms

HGH at 4 IU daily increases IGF-1 for most, but some people are hypo- or even non- responders. This fact depends on SNPs in the growth hormone receptor (GHR) gene.

Those who are hyper-responders possess the d3-GHR polymorphism. Population variance in this gene polymorphism can be as high as 50% in some populations. I write more about this in my Bolus HGH book. Search Google or whatever.

But even for d3-GHR GH hyper-responders, rhGH requires 16 – 20 weeks to produce visible physique changes. That's not "slow working" – that's the actual timeline for collagen synthesis and hyperplasia. 🐌

Growth hormone stimulates hepatic IGF-1 production, which triggers satellite cell proliferation and differentiation. New muscle cell formation takes 12+ weeks. Collagen deposition in connective tissue requires 20+ weeks of elevated GH/IGF-1.

Guys run GH for 8 weeks and say "it doesn't work." You spent $2000 to barely start the adaptation process. GH effects are dose-dependent AND time-dependent – you need both sufficient dose (4+ IU daily) and sufficient duration (6+ months).

For actual results: 4 IU daily for 6 months minimum. Split AM/PM dosing to mimic pulsatile secretion. Add MK-677 (12.5 mg nightly) to amplify endogenous pulses. If you're not seeing results, find out whether you're d3 null in the GHR gene with genetic testing. There are at least two SNPs that 'tag' the d3-GHR (hyper-response) allele with near certainty, at least in Caucasian/European populations (and perhaps others) and that are also present on most genotyping chips. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed… & ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed…. These SNPs, shown below with the tagging (minor) allele correlated with the d3-GHR allele, are:

rs6873545(C); in 23andMe and other data<br>rs4590183(C) in <a rel="nofollow ugc noopener" target="_blank" href="http://ancestry.com/">ancestry.com</a> and other data<br>
Other relevant genes to endocrinologists considering rhGH treatment in apparent adult GHD: IGF1R, GH1 and others, in addition to d3-GHR (whether exon 3-deleted GHR).
 
full body 4/12

chest fly 3pps x 25
back supported pullover 70x25
converging chest press 3pps x 20
pull-up 17
chest supported row 4pps x 16
dip machine 3pps x 12
barbell row 315x12
db shoulder press 35x12
ez bar curl 25x25
hatfield squat 500x14
leg press 500x30
leg extension 100x25
leg curl 100x25

macros: P 483, C 235, F 48
steps: 22,676
cardio: 124 MIN -- HR 98
sleep: 8 hours -- myair 100
bw: 228.9
bp: 112/66 -- 62
bg_fstd--bg_fed: 66 -- 78

285 mg sus
50 mg eq
60 mg 1-test c
24 iu somatropin
20 mg cardarine
5 mg tadalafil
25 mcg t3
150 mcg t4
1800 mg nac
20 mg isotretinoin
6g fish oil
40mg melatonin
10k iu + 200mcg d3/k2
2.8 g Potassium Citrate Powder
5 g Polyethylene Glycol 3350
1575 mg dandelion extract
 
I definitely can relate being a former fatty. You're doing pretty incredible. The only thing I worry for is longevity. I'd stay away from the Ronnie Coleman lifts lol, shit even if you were twenty I'd be like, well you're pressing more than most pros but your legs aren't there yet so you have room to grow using much less weight.
 
Mfg Eng said:
This is not per day is it? 2g/wk test?
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The OP can can correct me but it with 1-test it is 2,415 mg of test a week and estrogen issues controlled with 350 of boldenone. Most people need an AI if using 2 grams plus of test, lucky gent. Same with 24 IU of tested HGH which is an very high amount and no need for insulin, no BG issues, and low IGF - everyone is different. This is a good example of someone who really responds uniquely to PED's.
Don't mean to speak for power peptides rep but believe he answered the amounts are all daily.
I love the converging chest press too - I have been using the flat converging chest press as my first chest exercise. Never did it before and awesome for drop sets as it is controlled by a pin.
 
Goldenrod said:
The OP can can correct me but it with 1-test it is 2,415 mg of test a week and estrogen issues controlled with 350 of boldenone. Most people need an AI if using 2 grams plus of test, lucky gent.
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FYI Posting only to clarify for anyone who comes across this thread and is not aware of the differences which could be come important in a program for various reasons, sides etc, too much to get into here but I'd suggest researching for anyone considering using it.

Not that it matters in this context of total dose my friend but 1-testosterone is not testosterone, One can argue that it is either DHB or a DHT depending on whether discussing it structurally or chemically. To me the notable difference from T is that it does not convert to estrogen and is more androgenic and much more anabolic than T, at least on paper ;)
 
gondar1 said:
FYI Posting only to clarify for anyone who comes across this thread and is not aware of the differences which could be come important in a program for various reasons, sides etc, too much to get into here but I'd suggest researching for anyone considering using it.

Not that it matters in this context of total dose my friend but 1-testosterone is not testosterone, One can argue that it is either DHB or a DHT depending on whether discussing it structurally or chemically. To me the notable difference from T is that it does not convert to estrogen and is more androgenic and much more anabolic than T, at least on paper ;)
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I used to just put dhb.

Someone corrected me on that, so now I put what the vial says.
 
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