Masteron Vs Primobolan

I've used both at low doses and I prefer Masteron..

But to be honest, I always find better results by bumping up the test over adding something..

I am a trt guy at 110 mg a week.. Once in awhile I'll bump up to 150-175 and add something like masteron.. But to be honest, I get way better results just using 250mg test by itself.
 
During a cut, I’ve noticed Primo really shines when it comes to preserving muscle and keeping strength high. When body fat is low, you can really see the fullness in the muscles. But for a bulk, I’d rather go with Test, EQ, Mast, and a low-dose Deca for the joints.
 
I run low dose primo with TRT. So 200 test and 50 of Primo. This keeps everything where it should be in blood work and everything functions well.

During a cycle I’ll use Mast as I find I can really control sides to the point where rarely need AIs unless I really push the dose which I don’t do anymore. Too old now. 🥹
 
I run low dose primo with TRT. So 200 test and 50 of Primo. This keeps everything where it should be in blood work and everything functions well.

During a cycle I’ll use Mast as I find I can really control sides to the point where rarely need AIs unless I really push the dose which I don’t do anymore. Too old now. 🥹

What do you find the primo does at that low of a dose?
 
I've used both at low doses and I prefer Masteron..

But to be honest, I always find better results by bumping up the test over adding something..

I am a trt guy at 110 mg a week.. Once in awhile I'll bump up to 150-175 and add something like masteron.. But to be honest, I get way better results just using 250mg test by itself.
I agree with statement “But to be honest, I always find better results by bumping up the test over adding something.”

There is a great video by john Jewit on mast/primo dosages. The gist is the goal should be increase test until infeasible then add the second compound until you achieve the desired total mg. I like this approach as it debunks the idea of you having to run test/primo at 1:1 or 1:2.

For example, If the goal in a TRT scenario is to increase from 110mg to 150mg. If you can achieve that increase with test only without intolerable sides great. If you can only increase to 120mg test then you should add 30mg in another compound to achieve the anabolism benefit of 150 mg, which was your target. As you always wanna get the most from the least once you’ve gotten the maximum benefit from 150 mg then you should consider increasing the second compound to the next reasonable level where you start achieving benefit again? I am very much aligned to this approach.
 
Been seeing conflicting results, took a dive into the steroid * cycle thread and noticed alot more people than I thought are picking masteron as a secondary compound to testosterone regardless of cutting / bulking phases.

Curious about the general consensus between these two drugs. I feel like depending on the forum/Influencer (vigorous steve is a great example who definetely favours primo over mast) one is more perferred over the other.

I use primo with every phase and cycle.

Ive used both, I feel like I perfer primo more as it directly affects my estrogen and I use it as an ancillary or an AI (confirmed with bloodwork). It is also just much safer mg per mg than masteron on my blood levels (Despite being much harsher on my wallet mg per mg).

Doses ive ran: 100-400mg primo always with test at a higher ratio usually 1:2 (primo:test) or 1.5:2

No, primo tablets do not count and I refuse to recognize them as a potential oral for any scenario, unless maybe youre a female.

I want a general consensus, not what youd pick during a lean bulk or cutting phase, if you had unlimited budget what would be your go to to run for the rest of your future cycles.
Everyone has their favourites and I don't think anyone can say for certain one outshines the other but for health reasons/positive side effects, my favourite compound next to test (TRT) is Primo. Benefits: Free test through the roof with a small dose with TRT (like an enhanced TRT adding in 100-150 mg of Primo per week). Within a few weeks my free test is 3-4 times the top of the range of normal but my total test does not budge.
It significantly increases my libido which is a nice side effect.
Never once has it impacted my prostate, BP, or impacted one blood marker negatively. The opposite with it comes to lymphocytes (for me) - it increased my number mildly over an extended period. Not out of range but increased the number.
In general it makes me feel better - can't put the perfect adjective down (confidence, happiness, not sure but it does something that is positive) and I do not have any mental issues (no stigma for those who do - those diseases/issues are no different that diabetes) such as depression or anxiety.
It does make my hair shed a little faster but that is it for negatives.
People complain of PIP from higher mg/ml but I have never felt anything but the highest was 150 mg/ml. When I first started using a compound that caused some PIP that lingered, I put Primo in the same syringe and it helped to some degree.
Most of all - I find lower dosed prolonged cycles (if your dose is low as in a total of 250 mg) for 6 months, you can make good growth gains/physique changes and keep the majority of it. There is something about Primo that makes me grow slowly but it is much easier to keep for the long haul. Keep in mind 5 lbs in 6 months would be considered progress. If everyone gained 10 lbs of solid muscle a year - can you imagine how big everyone would be in 5 years hence why this is a turtle sport if you want to do it as healthy as possible and be enhanced like @Hussell says - 50% natty lol. He looks like a 50% natty beast over 300 lbs with the strength to go with it.
It can't compete with Deca or other compounds for strength or size even at low dose deca (100-150 Deca/NPP mg per week) but I will always choose 100 mg of test / 50 mg of Primo over 150 mg of test or vice versa (as an example) and that is just personal preference. It isn't a recommendation - I believe @Oldguyjiujitsu comment on test rings true. I just love the compound.
 
I find mast is more a complement to a cycle and adds synergy.
Good to have in and makes everything else almost stand out a little more

Primo stands better alone at actually putting on size

Mast is dryer and “leaner”

I generally prefer to have mast in most cycles
And in if cutting

I prefer to have primo in if lean bulking and trying to really add quality look and muscle

Having both can be nice for sure
I also really enjoy using primo for cruises
250 test 200 primo, helps with muscle retention
 
I find mast is more a complement to a cycle and adds synergy.
Good to have in and makes everything else almost stand out a little more

Primo stands better alone at actually putting on size

Mast is dryer and “leaner”

I generally prefer to have mast in most cycles
And in if cutting

I prefer to have primo in if lean bulking and trying to really add quality look and muscle

Having both can be nice for sure
I also really enjoy using primo for cruises
250 test 200 primo, helps with muscle retention
200 test 150 primo ( high) or 160 test 100 primo ( conservative) is my fav cruise.
 
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