is EQ the new Primo?
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Yeah that's a one of a kind "custom" ester. Would be nice if other labs made these short esters. I think Matrix is the only lab that has tried this or does anyone else know of more labs that do?
Ok didn't even look there. Hadn't heard much of matrix recently so wasn't sure was still around. That shorter half life would definitely be better. Even as a way to end the cycle. Will look into it.
Nobody else that I know of carry this compound. Information online isn't plentiful either.
I react pretty fast to long ester stuff so it's probably not a huge difference in reality for me. I think it's still worth a shot though.
I think many folks who bad mouth these two steroids havent truly run them and are parroting popular opnion....
That never happens on the forums ever
My comment is not directed to those that have chimed in here with personal experience that has not been positive or worse. No one aas is for everyone for a whole lot of reasons.
I have absolutely enjoyed both EQ and winstrol over the years.
For example....We see so many herald deca as a savior of all things achy....and winstrol to be the root of all evil for causing the achy and avoid at all cost.
Absolutes dont exist..Neither of these statements are entirely true nor entirely false. And the only way to truly know is to experiment and experience.
Opinion only....but I believe if more people actually used winstrol, its popularity would soar. It is an amazing drug.
Eq is the same, although obviously contextually different. But it can be pure magic in my experience.
All drugs come with a risk v. reward ratio expression attached to them. These should be understood and monitired and measured where possible... both anecdotally and empirically keeping progress, response and overall goals in mind .
There are never any truly good or bad absolutes.
I mean...if one should choose to go further beyond - I like to lift things up and put them down and use steroids cause they work.....
Or wherever you may reside on the spectrum between - down-the-rabbit-hole micro managing boil-the-ocean to lift heavy shit, eat lots and take 'roids
Just be mindful...boldenone can rapidly get very painful as the ester shortens.Ok didn't even look there. Hadn't heard much of matrix recently so wasn't sure was still around. That shorter half life would definitely be better. Even as a way to end the cycle. Will look into it.
Saying that Mammoth said he had made bold ace that was smooth and very tolerable.
I told him if hes done that....hes the David Blaine of ugl chemists....because its typically absolutely horrible shit and has caused a lot of chaos over the years when somebody re-discovers it.
Not that I didnt belive him...I belive some folks used it here and had good things to say, if I remember correctly? However, I remained too afraid...and my boldenone days are long behind me anyway... lol.
I’m enjoying low dose EQ. I’m currently on my second run of my 120mg TRT + 150mg EQ for 12 weeks.
My bloodwork came back excellent after the first time I ran it for 12 weeks. So I didn’t change anything.
My bloodwork came back excellent after the first time I ran it for 12 weeks. So I didn’t change anything.
Primobolan is alive and well out there, you just need to look harder. Not buying the global shortage thing either, its eased up. I am active over on an american forum and those boys are getting their primo tested left and right and its coming back good.
The amount of EQ bashing while things like masteron (practically useless) and primo (its good but not as great as it's talked about, especially for the money) were praised like they were sent from heaven made no sense, even historically speaking. Just my opinion of course, everyone responds differently.I think many folks who bad mouth these two steroids havent truly run them and are parroting popular opnion....
That never happens on the forums ever
My comment is not directed to those that have chimed in here with personal experience that has not been positive or worse. No one aas is for everyone for a whole lot of reasons.
I have absolutely enjoyed both EQ and winstrol over the years.
For example....We see so many herald deca as a savior of all things achy....and winstrol to be the root of all evil for causing the achy and avoid at all cost.
Absolutes dont exist..Neither of these statements are entirely true nor entirely false. And the only way to truly know is to experiment and experience.
Opinion only....but I believe if more people actually used winstrol, its popularity would soar. It is an amazing drug.
Eq is the same, although obviously contextually different. But it can be pure magic in my experience.
All drugs come with a risk v. reward ratio expression attached to them. These should be understood and monitired and measured where possible... both anecdotally and empirically keeping progress, response and overall goals in mind .
There are never any truly good or bad absolutes.
I mean...if one should choose to go further beyond - I like to lift things up and put them down and use steroids cause they work.....
Or wherever you may reside on the spectrum between - down-the-rabbit-hole micro managing boil-the-ocean to lift heavy shit, eat lots and take 'roids
So yea I agree, the people simply saying this or that is bad sounds like parroting or these are individuals that can't tolerate these compounds well enough to run them in meaningful amounts. Maybe people like us are the exception? Idk.
I do think it's a combination of the YouTube talking heads + status quo + confirmation bias. People would talk about either EQ or deca really poorly like they are obsolete. I don't hear anyone talk about winstrol much at all. Winstrol is easily my favorite from the DHT family. Orals in general have a bad reputation and Dbol is apparently a pre-workout now
. All of this sounds very odd to me. Test, EQ, deca, dbol and winstrol were the bread and butter drugs for decades. They just so happen to be my favorites and I can tolerate them all really well.
EQ is just a disaster for some people, me included even blasting tren I get less sides. Primo I love but I’m using it alongside side trt for estrogen management and a little boost. Definitely $$ but I like using it. I’ve never blasted Primo personally so I could only guess what it would be like but my low usage of it seems to be working out great without affecting bloodwork negatively.The amount of EQ bashing while things like masteron (practically useless) and primo (its good but not as great as it's talked about, especially for the money) were praised like they were sent from heaven made no sense, even historically speaking. Just my opinion of course, everyone responds differently.
So yea I agree, the people simply saying this or that is bad sounds like parroting or these are individuals that can't tolerate these compounds well enough to run them in meaningful amounts. Maybe people like us are the exception? Idk.
I do think it's a combination of the YouTube talking heads + status quo + confirmation bias. People would talk about either EQ or deca really poorly like they are obsolete. I don't hear anyone talk about winstrol much at all. Winstrol is easily my favorite from the DHT family. Orals in general have a bad reputation and Dbol is apparently a pre-workout now
Test, EQ, deca, dbol and winstrol were the bread and butter drugs for decades. They just so happen to be my favorites and I can tolerate them all really well.
I’m with you on the Mast being over rated too too. I’ve always loved winstrol have a bottle sitting here for next time I get on some tren.
Guys used to run EQ high as a standard. I like it around 300-400.
Lately I keep hearing Var being used as a pre-workout. Or Anadrol, haven’t heard Dbol.The amount of EQ bashing while things like masteron (practically useless) and primo (its good but not as great as it's talked about, especially for the money) were praised like they were sent from heaven made no sense, even historically speaking. Just my opinion of course, everyone responds differently.
So yea I agree, the people simply saying this or that is bad sounds like parroting or these are individuals that can't tolerate these compounds well enough to run them in meaningful amounts. Maybe people like us are the exception? Idk.
I do think it's a combination of the YouTube talking heads + status quo + confirmation bias. People would talk about either EQ or deca really poorly like they are obsolete. I don't hear anyone talk about winstrol much at all. Winstrol is easily my favorite from the DHT family. Orals in general have a bad reputation and Dbol is apparently a pre-workout now
Test, EQ, deca, dbol and winstrol were the bread and butter drugs for decades. They just so happen to be my favorites and I can tolerate them all really well.
Now that you mention that, it's pretty much any oral these days that have been reduced to being a pre-workout in my view. There was a trend a couple years back to use them sublingually for rapid absorption as well.
By all means people should use and do what works best for them. I'm a big fan of working with my body rather than trying to engineer around what it doesn't like with ancillaries.
Primo works even at 100mg per week but I found 300mg to be a nice sweet spot for it.
Pretty sure that’s been debunked?
A lot of people think Winstrol is just a cosmetic drug, I couldn’t disagree more. My recent prep proved otherwise. A few of my main tracked lifts were getting stagnant and I was just barely able to maintain strength on them towards the last few weeks. A few days after bringing in Winstrol I was again increasing these lifts by 3-4 reps only a few weeks out from show day. I’ve never had a strength response like that from any drug like Winstrol.I think many folks who bad mouth these two steroids havent truly run them and are parroting popular opnion....
That never happens on the forums ever
My comment is not directed to those that have chimed in here with personal experience that has not been positive or worse. No one aas is for everyone for a whole lot of reasons.
I have absolutely enjoyed both EQ and winstrol over the years.
For example....We see so many herald deca as a savior of all things achy....and winstrol to be the root of all evil for causing the achy and avoid at all cost.
Absolutes dont exist..Neither of these statements are entirely true nor entirely false. And the only way to truly know is to experiment and experience.
Opinion only....but I believe if more people actually used winstrol, its popularity would soar. It is an amazing drug.
Eq is the same, although obviously contextually different. But it can be pure magic in my experience.
All drugs come with a risk v. reward ratio expression attached to them. These should be understood and monitired and measured where possible... both anecdotally and empirically keeping progress, response and overall goals in mind .
There are never any truly good or bad absolutes.
I mean...if one should choose to go further beyond - I like to lift things up and put them down and use steroids cause they work.....
Or wherever you may reside on the spectrum between - down-the-rabbit-hole micro managing boil-the-ocean to lift heavy shit, eat lots and take 'roids
Honestly I have no idea. I just swallow them like a normal person lol.
i have to say you saying masteron is practically useless has peaked my interest here. i’m about to run mast for the first time at 300mg, so i guess ill anecdotally see if i agree or not with this sentiment.The amount of EQ bashing while things like masteron (practically useless) and primo (its good but not as great as it's talked about, especially for the money) were praised like they were sent from heaven made no sense, even historically speaking. Just my opinion of course, everyone responds differently.
So yea I agree, the people simply saying this or that is bad sounds like parroting or these are individuals that can't tolerate these compounds well enough to run them in meaningful amounts. Maybe people like us are the exception? Idk.
I do think it's a combination of the YouTube talking heads + status quo + confirmation bias. People would talk about either EQ or deca really poorly like they are obsolete. I don't hear anyone talk about winstrol much at all. Winstrol is easily my favorite from the DHT family. Orals in general have a bad reputation and Dbol is apparently a pre-workout now
Test, EQ, deca, dbol and winstrol were the bread and butter drugs for decades. They just so happen to be my favorites and I can tolerate them all really well.
i’ll be running it for E2 control and cosmetic effects getting to single digit body fat. are you saying in your experience, this use case isn’t worthwhile? or from the muscle building potential which seems to be agreed to be underwhelming at best? i’ll be adding oral winny after 8 weeks so hopefully in the first 8 weeks with just mast and test i’ll be able to formulate a good opinion on it.
let me add that i also love EQ. but i also really REALLY like primo as a cycle addition so i am going to disagree with ya there which is ok. different strokes for different folks.
Ok let me expand a bit because I can understand how that sounds. I view compounds almost exclusively based on how well they make me grow so keep this in mind as you read the rest of my reply. Cosmetically I don't really care as I don't compete.
Masteron in my experience blocks my estrogen really good. Too good infact to the point where I have low estrogen symptoms, messes with my prostate etc.
It is my opinion that its somewhere between an ancillary and an anabolic. To me it's basically injectable proviron with weak anabolic properties.
Does masteron have a cosmetic/ drying effect? Yes. Winstrol has a primo kind of effect where the muscles look fuller but you're not watery so it also contributes to a dryer look. This already makes the two superior to masteron in my view. Maybe I'm not articulating this correctly but someone who has run winstrol will know what I'm talking about. I never found myself getting substantially stronger on mast.
This doesn't mean it works that way for others. Keep in mind I'm a weirdo, I respond to long esters quickly, I like short cycles vs long, and I like deca only cycles lol. Everything in our world that screams lunatic
winstrol is one of the most highly performance enhancing drugs on the planet. When I was younger (23) playing hockey it was insane what it did to my agility. I could literally side step at full speed around someone and continue top speed. No joke at that exact time I would have loved to face nhl competition to see how much of a jump in performance it had on me. I played against junior A players and and an AHL goalie and smoked them. No question the peds played a huge part especially in speed and agility.