Intermittent fasting linked to 91% increase in risk of death from heart disease, study says

@Bigbear

I always appreciate knowing what's out there and seeing all sides of everything. More info leads to better answers so any posts about a study is appreciated, keep em coming, you know I have much respect for you.

But.

Fuck me this is such garbage. When an authoritarian institution like the AHA puts something like this out, especially when they only provide an abstract it disgusts me. I didn't read the study either, it's effectively buried. They probably don't want anyone to pick it apart right away. The problems and conflicts that are described very briefly in this Fortune article alone are numerous and serious enough to give cause to dismiss the whole thing completely. It smacks of a cash grab in the form of people spending money to justify their jobs or to seek further funding to ensure future employment. Headline baited bullshit.

Pisses me off to think that we can't trust orgs like that or the CDC or Health Canada now and we probably never should have.

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I saw this clickbait today, I stopped reading into it once I started seeing quotes like this;


"The fasting patients were more likely to be younger men with a higher BMI and food insecurity".

"the full study hasn’t been released yet — and the type of food the participants were eating is a crucial piece."

"categorization into the different windows of time-restricted eating was determined on the basis of just two days of dietary intake"


I will most likely still read the study if it comes out, however, I'm doubtful we will hear about it again.
 
@Bigbear

I always appreciate knowing what's out there and seeing all sides of everything. More info leads to better answers so any posts about a study is appreciated, keep em coming, you know I have much respect for you.

But.

Fuck me this is such garbage. When an authoritarian institution like the AHA puts something like this out, especially when they only provide an abstract it disgusts me. I didn't read the study either, it's effectively buried. They probably don't want anyone to pick it apart right away. The problems and conflicts that are described very briefly in this Fortune article alone are numerous and serious enough to give cause to dismiss the whole thing completely. It smacks of a cash grab in the form of people spending money to justify their jobs or to seek further funding to ensure future employment. Headline baited bullshit.

Pisses me off to think that we can't trust orgs like that or the CDC or Health Canada now and we probably never should have.

Study shows that Water and Oxygen consumption have been shown to have direct links to premature death, nearly 100% of all deaths in humans under 35 are associated with water and oxygen consumption. Follow me for more groundbreaking important info like this, hit like, share and subscribe.
I agree man but what I don't understand is how this garbage can get published, why aren't people calling them out and fact checking things, especially in big corporations like AHA. Who's paying them off to come up with this shit and why is it not extremly illegal. Research papers should be held at as high of standards as legal documents. If you ask me someone who would blatenly lie and make something very healthy look very dangerous and end up causing people to die for financial gain is guilty of murder and should be treated as such.
 
I agree man but what I don't understand is how this garbage can get published, why aren't people calling them out and fact checking things, especially in big corporations like AHA. Who's paying them off to come up with this shit and why is it not extremly illegal. Research papers should be held at as high of standards as legal documents. If you ask me someone who would blatenly lie and make something very healthy look very dangerous and end up causing people to die for financial gain is guilty of murder and should be treated as such.
In this day and age, with all the distractions available to us, people find it very difficult to care about their health to even sniff out bullshit like this. If companies can publish utter garbage and clickbait just to get click engagement to make money off of ads, they’ll do it. I can already imagine the amount of Facebook moms sharing this on their feed and sending it through WhatsApp. Misinformation about nutrition spreads like wildfire. People still believe in the food pyramid and that eggs are bad for you because of cholesterol.
 
@Bigbear

I always appreciate knowing what's out there and seeing all sides of everything. More info leads to better answers so any posts about a study is appreciated, keep em coming, you know I have much respect for you.

But.

Fuck me this is such garbage. When an authoritarian institution like the AHA puts something like this out, especially when they only provide an abstract it disgusts me. I didn't read the study either, it's effectively buried. They probably don't want anyone to pick it apart right away. The problems and conflicts that are described very briefly in this Fortune article alone are numerous and serious enough to give cause to dismiss the whole thing completely. It smacks of a cash grab in the form of people spending money to justify their jobs or to seek further funding to ensure future employment. Headline baited bullshit.

Pisses me off to think that we can't trust orgs like that or the CDC or Health Canada now and we probably never should have.

Study shows that Water and Oxygen consumption have been shown to have direct links to premature death, nearly 100% of all deaths in humans under 35 are associated with water and oxygen consumption. Follow me for more groundbreaking important info like this, hit like, share and subscribe.
Your statement is that of a far-right conspiracy theorist.
You will be selected for re-education in the near future.
 
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I agree man but what I don't understand is how this garbage can get published, why aren't people calling them out and fact checking things, especially in big corporations like AHA. Who's paying them off to come up with this shit and why is it not extremly illegal. Research papers should be held at as high of standards as legal documents. If you ask me someone who would blatenly lie and make something very healthy look very dangerous and end up causing people to die for financial gain is guilty of murder and should be treated as such.

I can help u understand, it's simple. Selfishness, greed and apathy. Same reasons our entire human society is crumbling quickly right before our eyes.
I try to be as kind as anyone in general. Help a lil old lady cross the street, watch out for my neighbours, step up when someone is in trouble but...

I'm as guilty as anyone, if I or anyone else really, really gave a fuck about society as a whole we would all devote our days to standing up and straighten shit out. The reality though? Bills to pay, kids to raise, all that shit plus the desire to actually enjoy life.
 
If it ain't peer reviewed study then it ain't credible until that's been done..

and like someone else said, if its not the FULL study published, it greatly diminished any value it has or may have.
 
If it ain't peer reviewed study then it ain't credible until that's been done..

and like someone else said, if its not the FULL study published, it greatly diminished any value it has or may have.

Even then you can't trust anything, I quote studies all the time though, wtf else are we to rely in for info? You can only vet this shit so well.


I've seen some better stories about this hoax but this was the first one that came up when I googled that got the point across. Some of the things they said in a few of the studies were insanely absurd and it's hard to believe that anyone who had an over 80 IQ actually read them without realizing the joke and still let them get published. Like fucking hilarious shit I would have been proud to post here as obvious satire. On the other hand maybe they were smart people and just chicken shit to speak up or reject them because of all the woke outrage hanging over their heads. If that's they case it's even more disgusting.

 
At the end of the day, the world of science and research gets murky amidst politics, economics, lobbying, etc. the only thing we can do is observe these “objective” studies and try our best to further deduce and theorize. Shit changes all the time, and not to mention corruption and the usefulness of misinformation, I’d say no study out there can be taken as an absolute truth.
 
All I know is the thinner smaller old people that come into my shop live far longer than the fat or large people. So I guess if you only eat what is needed and fast or not, you live longer.

And as far as studies, covid proved that its really tough to believe shit.
 
At the end of the day, the world of science and research gets murky amidst politics, economics, lobbying, etc. the only thing we can do is observe these “objective” studies and try our best to further deduce and theorize. Shit changes all the time, and not to mention corruption and the usefulness of misinformation, I’d say no study out there can be taken as an absolute truth.

Agreed, but I don't get who would be pushing the narrative to eat more often. I don't even see how you would properly conduct a study like this

And as far as studies, covid proved that its really tough to believe shit.

I don't disagree but this has been going on long before covid.
 
I can help u understand, it's simple. Selfishness, greed and apathy. Same reasons our entire human society is crumbling quickly right before our eyes.
I try to be as kind as anyone in general. Help a lil old lady cross the street, watch out for my neighbours, step up when someone is in trouble but...

I'm as guilty as anyone, if I or anyone else really, really gave a fuck about society as a whole we would all devote our days to standing up and straighten shit out. The reality though? Bills to pay, kids to raise, all that shit plus the desire to actually enjoy life.
Even simpler, I think it comes down to corporations having rights as persons, but without the capacity to even feel those emotions you describe.
At the end of the day, the world of science and research gets murky amidst politics, economics, lobbying, etc. the only thing we can do is observe these “objective” studies and try our best to further deduce and theorize. Shit changes all the time, and not to mention corruption and the usefulness of misinformation, I’d say no study out there can be taken as an absolute truth.
Take any random set of data and one can find patterns in it to support any preconception.

Science research, is research done using the scientific method. The method must include experiment and or out of sample prediction to have any value.
This observational study does neither.

Agreed, but I don't get who would be pushing the narrative to eat more often.
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Even then you can't trust anything, I quote studies all the time though, wtf else are we to rely in for info? You can only vet this shit so well.


I've seen some better stories about this hoax but this was the first one that came up when I googled that got the point across. Some of the things they said in a few of the studies were insanely absurd and it's hard to believe that anyone who had an over 80 IQ actually read them without realizing the joke and still let them get published. Like fucking hilarious shit I would have been proud to post here as obvious satire. On the other hand maybe they were smart people and just chicken shit to speak up or reject them because of all the woke outrage hanging over their heads. If that's they case it's even more disgusting.

Publish or perish is the name of the game.
It's only going to get worse with ChatGTP making it so easy to muddy the waters even more.
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Shit maybe that girl way back in school who told all her friends I was hung like a mouse was actually giving me a compliment, sorta feel bad now for telling everyone it was like throwing a hotdog down a hallway .
 
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