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Can we get back to the reason for this thread please, reviews of Innovagen. For anyone who doesn't like the rules the forum owner made, don't go to the forum. Don't follow them, don't complain about the repercussions.
If anyone thinks this forum is bad for ganging up, it isn't. Every effort is made to simply explain or warn a person for others to read, who are new and checked off they read the rules to become a member, but did not, so they understand. For whoever said 'owners pets or whatever the term was' - there are none. We all make mistakes and usually mulligans are granted. Don't like that someone tells you to read the rules, or even post the link and claim you should not be here, then your wish will be granted.

The world is different today than it was before and in order to get a list or source from most 'sources' you had to be around a long time, people got to know you, and doors may open - you earned it. There are reasons for that, if you don't like it and that is how the forum owner runs his forum, then find another forum that doesn't operate the same. Otherwise, take it up with the forum owner in PM and ask questions.
 
I partially agree with @DiverSn here. Seems like some guys think they are sick because they have someone’s contact info, and they like to show it off…

Do we really think that a lab or site would be opposed to getting extra customers/income? I mean I get the whole ā€œundergroundā€ thing but cmon - nobody is special or unique because of where they spend their money…

I’m open to different opinions but I bet if you asked 10 lab owners if they would be open to sending a price list to a potential new customer - 8 would agree and be open to more business

For the people out there who believe access is a right and not to be earned.....

Do some fucking homework and stop crying about your feelings of entitlement....

Operation Raw Deal

Research it.....and maybe you will better understand why open source boards are a terrible idea.

I know, I know....it seems like no one anyone else cares, so why should we? I mean, with open sources on open social media who operate seemingly without consequence, we old fucks are just delusional, overly paranoid and just looking to hold onto authorities and defend privilege....right?

Or, perhaps, we too are entitled to have our own thoughts about the subject matter in the place that We created? This coupled derived from the knowledge of what happens when LE cycles their interests back to online aas sourcing....will it happen again? Perhaps? Perhaps not?

It would seem that those in such positions have finally figured out that being hard on the Chinese, specifically Chinese manufacturers through their own government is a far superior way to impact and control the supply chain....we see that now more than ever before with the severe shortages the entire ugl market from Europe to North America (and most likely other regions that I cant speak to with first or second hand knowledge).

Regardless, it is a decision made by leadership of this board and the community who finds interest in being here and investing into and becoming part of community. Not a place where entitled fiends can acquire drugs without effort and investment.

If you cant follow my thoughts and words - this place probably isn't for you.

And guess what? Thats ok.

Thats the beauty of freedom of open market....there are all kinds of places where you can go and acquire your drugs without investment in anything. If that is what you seek....go there.

Don't whine and complain about it here. It won't change because you throw a sucky fit and cry about big mean old fucks not allowing you access to something you were never part of and have no interest in being part of or making effort to join.

These boards, hokey old fuck reminiscing about "the good old days" or not....were never about drugs and drug procurement.

It was about creating a space where people with commen interests in the sports of bulodybuilding, power lifting or simply gym ratting could get together and share ideas, learn about others mistakes, learn about their successes, bullshit each other a little, and share.

This place, although evolved somewhat, is forged in those ideals, so coming on here and claiming this community is unfair because we dont believe in open access isn't going to change and damn thing nor is it going to gain you any friends - other than perhaps other complete noobs who wander through this life without employing consciousness thought or any degree of critical thinking on the matter. Nor even ask themselves why might it be this way. No, you just expect things to be provided to you as if it's your god-given right.

Well prince or princess....thats not how the world works. Despite the way it is changing and what we have created. There are still gatekeepers and always will be in certain places.

If you dont like that - too fucking bad and feel free to continue to cry your purple piss rivers in your echo chambers of self righteousness and entitlement. Go back to the shitholes where you came from before you wound up here....im sure they will welcome you back with open arms. But ask yourself this, why did you come here seeking in the first place and why dont you have access to certain brands in such places...other than perhaps ridiculously priced resellers or sites operated by resellers and not the brands themselves.

If you'd rather invest in this place, share and work hard to build relationships here....good things generally tend to happen. I'd love to see you here as a member of the community if that is the path you choose. If you just want to cry the blues about open access rights without effort...fuck off. You're not wanted here...and never will be.

Look...its like this....in life...all aspects...you're either an asset or an asshole....which one do you CHOOSE to be? It is a choice....and you hold all the cards in that decision making process.

The fact i seem to need to explain this in such explicit detail is monumentally disappointing. But if you would like to learn a few things that might be helpful to your journey....maybe listen instead of lip? Its time to stop talking so much about things you obviously dont understand.
 
Appreciate the group tutorial on the house rules from the owners pets. Proud of you guys for being more rule-abiding than the people simply asking for a contact. I’m sure you were also the guys who would gang up on someone for not wearing their mask during Covid… ā€œJust follow the rules and don’t question anythingā€

If the real concern is keeping contacts off the public board, a quiet DM to the person who asked would solve that without the public hall-monitor energy.

Also @G-Force appreciate the history lesson but really am struggling to understand your point here…
Hmmmm....Perhaps then one should consider following their own advice?

And your analogy re: masks during covid is absolutely stupid and not relevant in any application....I cant even say nice try in trying to swing the pendulum in a different direction.
 
For the people out there who believe access is a right and not to be earned.....

Do some fucking homework and stop crying about your feelings of entitlement....

Operation Raw Deal

Research it.....and maybe you will better understand why open source boards are a terrible idea.

I know, I know....it seems like no one anyone else cares, so why should we? I mean, with open sources on open social media who operate seemingly without consequence, we old fucks are just delusional, overly paranoid and just looking to hold onto authorities and defend privilege....right?

Or, perhaps, we too are entitled to have our own thoughts about the subject matter in the place that We created? This coupled derived from the knowledge of what happens when LE cycles their interests back to online aas sourcing....will it happen again? Perhaps? Perhaps not?

It would seem that those in such positions have finally figured out that being hard on the Chinese, specifically Chinese manufacturers through their own government is a far superior way to impact and control the supply chain....we see that now more than ever before with the severe shortages the entire ugl market from Europe to North America (and most likely other regions that I cant speak to with first or second hand knowledge).

Regardless, it is a decision made by leadership of this board and the community who finds interest in being here and investing into and becoming part of community. Not a place where entitled fiends can acquire drugs without effort and investment.

If you cant follow my thoughts and words - this place probably isn't for you.

And guess what? Thats ok.

Thats the beauty of freedom of open market....there are all kinds of places where you can go and acquire your drugs without investment in anything. If that is what you seek....go there.

Don't whine and complain about it here. It won't change because you throw a sucky fit and cry about big mean old fucks not allowing you access to something you were never part of and have no interest in being part of or making effort to join.

These boards, hokey old fuck reminiscing about "the good old days" or not....were never about drugs and drug procurement.

It was about creating a space where people with commen interests in the sports of bulodybuilding, power lifting or simply gym ratting could get together and share ideas, learn about others mistakes, learn about their successes, bullshit each other a little, and share.

This place, although evolved somewhat, is forged in those ideals, so coming on here and claiming this community is unfair because we dont believe in open access isn't going to change and damn thing nor is it going to gain you any friends - other than perhaps other complete noobs who wander through this life without employing consciousness thought or any degree of critical thinking on the matter. Nor even ask themselves why might it be this way. No, you just expect things to be provided to you as if it's your god-given right.

Well prince or princess....thats not how the world works. Despite the way it is changing and what we have created. There are still gatekeepers and always will be in certain places.

If you dont like that - too fucking bad and feel free to continue to cry your purple piss rivers in your echo chambers of self righteousness and entitlement. Go back to the shitholes where you came from before you wound up here....im sure they will welcome you back with open arms. But ask yourself this, why did you come here seeking in the first place and why dont you have access to certain brands in such places...other than perhaps ridiculously priced resellers or sites operated by resellers and not the brands themselves.

If you'd rather invest in this place, share and work hard to build relationships here....good things generally tend to happen. I'd love to see you here as a member of the community if that is the path you choose. If you just want to cry the blues about open access rights without effort...fuck off. You're not wanted here...and never will be.

Look...its like this....in life...all aspects...you're either an asset or an asshole....which one do you CHOOSE to be? It is a choice....and you hold all the cards in that decision making process.

The fact i seem to need to explain this in such explicit detail is monumentally disappointing. But if you would like to learn a few things that might be helpful to your journey....maybe listen instead of lip? Its time to stop talking so much about things you obviously dont understand.
I have a few valium on the way for you.... you're scaring me ... :I :)
 
Able to get in contact with Innovagen. Bit of a different process than im used to but very secure in his process. Was easy communication and everything sent well packed. Heard nothing but good things about this lab. Will be incorporating several of these items into the cycle Ive just started. Pinned 100mg of the Eq today and was smooth.
I've never heard anything bad about this lab!
 
This forum has a broad range of discussions such as mental health, physical health, and personal life stuff where the community comes together and supports each other. You have contributed zero to this community other than asking for a direct rep contact publicly. If you had any sense of etiquette and were not ignorant you would have sent a private message to the owner or admin asking this where you would have been politely addressed this is not a board for sourcing. You have an entitled attitude as was noted in my post (sense of entitlement). You proved my point.
you had me at mental!
 
are you out of yer mind....... I think we all know the answer... no offence.
I havent used them in years but anything I cant find elsewhere I grab from there. Maybe lately or certain products im unaware of but ive never had a problem with them before. Thats all I meant. But to answer your question yes im completely out of my mind that's how I run at baseline
 
I havent used them in years but anything I cant find elsewhere I grab from there. Maybe lately or certain products im unaware of but ive never had a problem with them before. Thats all I meant. But to answer your question yes im completely out of my mind that's how I run at baseline
I have never had a problem when I used em. I did quite a bit, if there was a problem they would fix it fast, and I'm also out of my mind :) keeps me from going mental
 
Appreciate the group tutorial on the house rules from the owners pets. Proud of you guys for being more rule-abiding than the people simply asking for a contact. I’m sure you were also the guys who would gang up on someone for not wearing their mask during Covid… ā€œJust follow the rules and don’t question anythingā€

If the real concern is keeping contacts off the public board, a quiet DM to the person who asked would solve that without the public hall-monitor energy.

Also @G-Force appreciate the history lesson but really am struggling to understand your point here…
Im not sure but this may be directed at me. If you read through the thread you would have seen my response early stating not to contact me for a source. So no I didnt respond to your private message and I ignored several others as well. The first 5-6 I did respond to because I actually am a fan of helping people along but my response was sorry no I cannot give you that information but please stick around, learn and contribute. But im not obligated to respond to every person who joins and immediately expects me to hand them a source. Also not sure why people feel the need to get personal. "Owners pets", not sure who that was directed at but come on man dp better ffs.
I've never heard anything bad about this lab!
Good lab i think. But in regards to some of the comments about acces on this thread. Innovagen seems even more discreet than average. And I definitely did not get the vibe from them that I should pass along their info to whoever wants it. Im only running the Eq from them right now. Im always vascular but this is next level. Got veins sticking out in places they never have. Crazy.
 
I havent used them in years but anything I cant find elsewhere I grab from there. Maybe lately or certain products im unaware of but ive never had a problem with them before. Thats all I meant. But to answer your question yes im completely out of my mind that's how I run at baseline
This is what drew me to the lab as well. They just seem to have a more eclectic stock and they seem to be well stocked. šŸ‘
 
Im not sure but this may be directed at me. If you read through the thread you would have seen my response early stating not to contact me for a source. So no I didnt respond to your private message and I ignored several others as well. The first 5-6 I did respond to because I actually am a fan of helping people along but my response was sorry no I cannot give you that information but please stick around, learn and contribute. But im not obligated to respond to every person who joins and immediately expects me to hand them a source. Also not sure why people feel the need to get personal. "Owners pets", not sure who that was directed at but come on man dp better ffs.

Good lab i think. But in regards to some of the comments about acces on this thread. Innovagen seems even more discreet than average. And I definitely did not get the vibe from them that I should pa ss along their info to whoever wants it. Im only running the Eq from them right now. Im always vascular but this is next level. Got veins sticking out in places they never hat
they resell products, aand they're good at it, I dont think they make anything , I havent delt with em in a long time, i dont know the new labs he has....but he was good with me and helped when I fuked up.
 
For the people out there who believe access is a right and not to be earned.....

Do some fucking homework and stop crying about your feelings of entitlement....

Operation Raw Deal

Research it.....and maybe you will better understand why open source boards are a terrible idea.

I know, I know....it seems like no one anyone else cares, so why should we? I mean, with open sources on open social media who operate seemingly without consequence, we old fucks are just delusional, overly paranoid and just looking to hold onto authorities and defend privilege....right?

Or, perhaps, we too are entitled to have our own thoughts about the subject matter in the place that We created? This coupled derived from the knowledge of what happens when LE cycles their interests back to online aas sourcing....will it happen again? Perhaps? Perhaps not?

It would seem that those in such positions have finally figured out that being hard on the Chinese, specifically Chinese manufacturers through their own government is a far superior way to impact and control the supply chain....we see that now more than ever before with the severe shortages the entire ugl market from Europe to North America (and most likely other regions that I cant speak to with first or second hand knowledge).

Regardless, it is a decision made by leadership of this board and the community who finds interest in being here and investing into and becoming part of community. Not a place where entitled fiends can acquire drugs without effort and investment.

If you cant follow my thoughts and words - this place probably isn't for you.

And guess what? Thats ok.

Thats the beauty of freedom of open market....there are all kinds of places where you can go and acquire your drugs without investment in anything. If that is what you seek....go there.

Don't whine and complain about it here. It won't change because you throw a sucky fit and cry about big mean old fucks not allowing you access to something you were never part of and have no interest in being part of or making effort to join.

These boards, hokey old fuck reminiscing about "the good old days" or not....were never about drugs and drug procurement.

It was about creating a space where people with commen interests in the sports of bulodybuilding, power lifting or simply gym ratting could get together and share ideas, learn about others mistakes, learn about their successes, bullshit each other a little, and share.

This place, although evolved somewhat, is forged in those ideals, so coming on here and claiming this community is unfair because we dont believe in open access isn't going to change and damn thing nor is it going to gain you any friends - other than perhaps other complete noobs who wander through this life without employing consciousness thought or any degree of critical thinking on the matter. Nor even ask themselves why might it be this way. No, you just expect things to be provided to you as if it's your god-given right.

Well prince or princess....thats not how the world works. Despite the way it is changing and what we have created. There are still gatekeepers and always will be in certain places.

If you dont like that - too fucking bad and feel free to continue to cry your purple piss rivers in your echo chambers of self righteousness and entitlement. Go back to the shitholes where you came from before you wound up here....im sure they will welcome you back with open arms. But ask yourself this, why did you come here seeking in the first place and why dont you have access to certain brands in such places...other than perhaps ridiculously priced resellers or sites operated by resellers and not the brands themselves.

If you'd rather invest in this place, share and work hard to build relationships here....good things generally tend to happen. I'd love to see you here as a member of the community if that is the path you choose. If you just want to cry the blues about open access rights without effort...fuck off. You're not wanted here...and never will be.

Look...its like this....in life...all aspects...you're either an asset or an asshole....which one do you CHOOSE to be? It is a choice....and you hold all the cards in that decision making process.

The fact i seem to need to explain this in such explicit detail is monumentally disappointing. But if you would like to learn a few things that might be helpful to your journey....maybe listen instead of lip? Its time to stop talking so much about things you obviously dont understand.
Just seeing this now…. This is soooooo weird 😭

Dude, maybe you need to take a bit of a break from this forum… you’re talking like someone insulted your child or something. I’m definitely not the one who’s the ā€œfiendā€ after reading this short novel 😭
 
Just seeing this now…. This is soooooo weird 😭

Dude, maybe you need to take a bit of a break from this forum… you’re talking like someone insulted your child or something. I’m definitely not the one who’s the ā€œfiendā€ after reading this short novel 😭
Nah dude I assure you if you insulted his child itd be a lot worse. You might want to try to humble yourself, think of it like a prison range, keep your head down, and your mouth shut, respect the elders and follow the rules or get banged out lol. In this case I guess itd just be kicked out but you get my point.
 
Food for thought...

What if a new user signs up here looking for AAS, etc. and it turns out that it was you or someone you know's young teenage boy or girl on here asking for a source because they heard gear is cool on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, etc.? Or maybe they want to go trans after being denied by their parents and medical professionals, etc.? Who knows, whatever the worst case scenario may be...

Also, as mentioned, what if it's a scammer looking to grab others' personal info., money and run or just sell some bad gear?

Also, it's not up to other users to give out anyone's contact information and they would have every right to be pissed if that did happen.

Please lets also keep in mind there is a lot of crossover from here to other forums, etc. so word gets around fast if you're an idiot. Some Reps. that have been helping you would (& should) also drop you on the spot and block you for good because you become a hazard and liability since if you can't maintain something fairly simple then you probably make all kind of careless mistakes and are probably immature, dumb and certainly not trustworthy.

Or... we could just respect the Forum Rules set by the one who potentially has their neck on the line and also coincidentally PAYS THE BILLS HERE and the other community members who may actually care and have been around for a little while and might know a few things, including some etiquette and manners.

Okay, out of respect of Innovagen, all of the Canadian Brawn community and the Original Poster lets please move back to the original poster's intent and continue this as an Innovagen Review Thread...

Thank you,

OD
 
haven’t even thought about these guys in years, but I remember them having some pretty exotic gear once upon a time.
I went through a phase where I was trying all sorts of new gear I’d never even heard of before.
Some that stand out in my find memories are the Hyperbol? It was a nandrolone base, along with check drops that made me want to lift everything all at once, and finally their ITTP…that shit was like having an extra lung or 10 lol…
They had good orals too, never had any issues there.
 
haven’t even thought about these guys in years, but I remember them having some pretty exotic gear once upon a time.
I went through a phase where I was trying all sorts of new gear I’d never even heard of before.
Some that stand out in my find memories are the Hyperbol? It was a nandrolone base, along with check drops that made me want to lift everything all at once, and finally their ITTP…that shit was like having an extra lung or 10 lol…
They had good orals too, never had any issues there.
Yah its interesting how under the radar they seem to be. Often heard about them being a good lab but not many in the last few years. They still have some interesting products and for me its just good to have another reliable lab.
 
Just seeing this now…. This is soooooo weird 😭

Dude, maybe you need to take a bit of a break from this forum… you’re talking like someone insulted your child or something. I’m definitely not the one who’s the ā€œfiendā€ after reading this short novel 😭
Lol. Ok noob.

Remember...the only twats crying was you and your noob buddy.

You think you're entitled to access that.... youre not.

Your stupidity and crybaby antics may work in other places like your mom's house.....however there are still places on this earth where your pussy behavior will get you nothing but a boot in the ass and a giant reality check. This is one of them since it doesn't seem to occur to you that it is.

Remember that your well thought out response is because I hurt your feelings over the internet by telling you to put effort into something you want to achieve. What a fucking disgrace.

Nothing you will ever say here will help you win this discussion. Not witjout a major correction to your pussy behavior.

And I could give two fucks about your low-brow stupid fuckwad responses. Ive most likely been on these forums longer that you've been alive. They wont phase me.

No hard feelings on this end kiddo. You're always welcome here anytime if that spineless entitlement bullshit gets checked.

Grow up, pull yourself up by your bootstraps and learn what the words accountability, agency, resiliency and integrity mean....

Right now...you're 0/4.
 
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