How would a test/primo/deca cycle go?

[4_horsemen]

So are you saying in your case that mast could help like reduce a gyno lump like a serm but primo reduces more of the estrogen before it becomes an issue and creates the lump?

To an extent yes. I wouldn’t solely use mast for gyno issues, I would use an actual serm for that. But there is some mechanism of action that’s beyond my knowledge where mast does have an affinity for preventing estrogen from inducing gyno development.

Primo does keep my estrogen down. I’ve used it on a variety of cycles and it always does the same for me, mostly dose dependent.

 

[Cheapshot]

So are you saying in your case that mast could help like reduce a gyno lump like a serm but primo reduces more of the estrogen before it becomes an issue and creates the lump?

I dont see how mast would do anything for gyno. It might help lower estrogen same as primo. Use Raloxifene for gyno

 

[4_horsemen]

I dont see how mast would do anything for gyno. It might help lower estrogen same as primo. Use Raloxifene for gyno

I should clarify what I said earlier. From what I’ve read, Masteron was FDA approved as an antiestrogenic drug for the treatment of breast cancer. It induces a reduction of estrogen receptors in the breast. So from what I gather, it blocks the estrogen receptor and prevents estrogen from starting gyno development. This type of thing is far beyond my knowledge and I don’t claim to be any sort of expert on the matter.

I have used lower doses of masteron (200-250 mg) in a cycle as a preventative measure to stop any gyno development before it started.

Hands down, ralox and nolva and superior for reducing / shrinking gyno development.

 

[Goldenrod]

Yes I guess that makes sense. I guess in all the reading I've done of the two I have heard that primo is generally more side effect free and like, system friendly. Not that I've heard a lot of real bad about mast. Hair loss. Maybe oily skin and or a hit to cholesterol is mainly what I've heard about mast and even those aren't all guaranteed from my readings.

My short term lol explanation of Primo - it is weaker than most products but you can take it longer due to the side effect profile in lower doses and keep much more than you would if you blasted for 3 months. Look at the anabolic to androgenic ratio.
Primo and Masteron are similar but Primo 'may' be easier on the hair but it is hard on the hair due to being a DHT drug, it is easier on the prostate for most but not everyone.
Primo at a low dose of 150-300 mg per week did two things I liked - increased my lymphocyte count but not over the threshold, and it sent my free test through the roof. If you read about what Primo can do - it can help harden your bones, add lean muscle, get incredibly vascular, and keep a lot of it.
No one can say Primo has less sides than Mast for sure as everyone is different but I agree with @Pippyhippy 's assessment. It should have less side effects but unless you are a lucky man, run higher doses of either and if prone expect an increase in MPB.

One of the best parts of Primo is if your TRT is prescribed by a GP, they often check your total test and maybe estrogen and that is it. Primo won't impact either unless it impacts your estrogen which it doesn't for me. My free test is off the chart but most GP's I dealt with don't check.
Go to a TRT clinic or endo and chances they will test it.

In general I consider Primo one of the more 'healthy' PED's albeit I caution everyone on their prostate.

 

[Bigbear]

I'm doing the same right now but my ratios are all equal 150 test 150 primo 150 deca and 25mg to 50mg a day proviron. Just going low dose because I've never tried deca before.

 

[Jabroni]

I don't use doses remotely close to that high but I can tell you for certain, at least with me - TRT and 100-150 mg of Primo a week (takes weeks to a month) and my total test is high normal and my free test is 2-3 times more than the top of the range. I prefer Primo and it increases my sex drive and the only change from a hormone perspective is my FT is through the roof. It has no impact on my estrogen. I tried low dose deca 50-100 mg, 100 test, and 100 Primo before to see if Deca would leave my damn sex drive alone - Primo to balance it out. It kills it dead and nope - If anyone wonders my prolactin was right in the middle of the range of where it should be so it wasn't my prolactin.

I love Deca in low doses 1/3 of what you are talking about for strength and size but I might as well be dead below. No desire and ED drugs help perform but it is a miracle if I can get off.
No idea your height or weight when on TRT or an enhanced TRT like @Pippyhippy mentioned, but if I ever ran those doses for 6 months - almost a gram of test (don't think you need that much), 450 of deca and 200 mg of Primo or more, I would need a new wardrobe unless in a major deficit but wouldn't pick those compounds if I was trying to lean out. The first time I tried Deca at 150 mg on my TRT, in a few months I gained 15 lbs but nope didn't keep it all.

I have no concerns running Primo for 6 months or more at a low dose of 100 mg with my TRT. I feel better, sex drive is amazing, and my BP and blood markers do not change (excluding hormonal - free test).


If you don't mind me asking - what is the main goal? Are you large now and want to be bigger for a competition or 'just because as you mentioned clean bulk'. No judgement - your an adult and should do what you want. I mention lower dosages for myself with good results as I never blasted high doses so I respond well to lower doses.

I’m fairly large, and currently I’m growing on a different cycle. There will be a 6-8 week break before I do decide to run this- but to answer in short my goal is I’d like to kick my physique up to a new level, mass wise. A whole new wardrobe sounds pricey but is an enticing thought ! I don’t compete, but I do train (others) sometimes. Just having the right look can, as some would know, attract more business. Just some side hobbies and hustles I’ll be attempting to delve more into. And 210 is nice for a guy at 5’7 but I wanna see if I can get to 225 with 10-15% bf. I would drop the test dose down, maybe I can with the primo and still be fine libido wise.

These are all great inputs-thanks everybody. and I’m feeling things out here before I actually decide to start this cycle.

 

[Cadillac]

I started my cycle, pinning daily, 100 Test EOD, then Primo on the opposite day. I have now increased it to 400 Test/400 Primo every week pinning daily. It's working really well.... Slow and steady. I am now thinking of adding in some Deca (100 mgish) to help keep things from getting creaky. Gonna run this for 16 weeks in total, drop to a cruise of 250mg test a week for two months, then jump back on.

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