How to take npp?

[Devson]

I was thinking about this. Have you tried it both ways like 3 or 4 injections a week vs 1 every day and preferred the latter?

Yes, that's why I was very straight forward with my answer. I did either 3 or 4 injections per week for years (3 to 4 years) primarily with NPP and then with Test P. When I switched to test c instead of prop and took it twice a week and then NPP everyday. It was a big big difference. I also noticed less acne. Podcasts mention it too btw.

Try it yourself. Take NPP 3 or 4 times a week for 6 weeks and then take it everyday. You should see enough of a difference to make you motivated to take it daily. Make sure to take into account the visuals of filling up and if it's the first time or a long time since you've ran that dosage of NPP.

There were other factors involved but I had to consider lowering dosage because I couldn't keep up with the calorie intake. I no longer had the problem of being fat on cycles, I had the problem of not being fat enough. It was cool but I wouldn't go that high again in dosage because you cannot fuel it unless you don't work or something and even then I'd rather enjoy it and have the time of my life rather than feel all tired and messed up from eating 24/7.

Remember you aren't really going to absorb more than 100 carbs every two or three hours. So you can't just make up for lost meals with 400 grams of carbs in a sitting.

 

[Night_King]

At 400 mg I did

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[Bigbear]

Yes, that's why I was very straight forward with my answer. I did either 3 or 4 injections per week for years (3 to 4 years) primarily with NPP and then with Test P. When I switched to test c instead of prop and took it twice a week and then NPP everyday. It was a big big difference. I also noticed less acne. Podcasts mention it too btw.

Try it yourself. Take NPP 3 or 4 times a week for 6 weeks and then take it everyday. You should see enough of a difference to make you motivated to take it daily. Make sure to take into account the visuals of filling up and if it's the first time or a long time since you've ran that dosage of NPP.

There were other factors involved but I had to consider lowering dosage because I couldn't keep up with the calorie intake. I no longer had the problem of being fat on cycles, I had the problem of not being fat enough. It was cool but I wouldn't go that high again in dosage because you cannot fuel it unless you don't work or something and even then I'd rather enjoy it and have the time of my life rather than feel all tired and messed up from eating 24/7.

Remember you aren't really going to absorb more than 100 carbs every two or three hours. So you can't just make up for lost meals with 400 grams of carbs in a sitting.

Thanks man i appreciate your indepth responses. I might actually go with that.

 

[joeblow543212]

Because I was thinking the same thing based on steroid plotter but dam thats a lot of needles lol. Not even just pinning but like having to buy a box of 100 syringes plus 200 needles. I usually draw with a 20g and shoot with a 25g.

It isnt that bad man, id load a week worth at a time. I used insulin needles tho.

 

[Mano]

I'm starting the same cycle this week and I was so hoping to get away with 3 pins of npp per week, 2 if my schedule didn't allow it. This has me very much perplexed with what I should be doing. I like to run my doses typically pretty low however so is there even a point of running 100 npp per week?

 

[joeblow543212]

I'm starting the same cycle this week and I was so hoping to get away with 3 pins of npp per week, 2 if my schedule didn't allow it. This has me very much perplexed with what I should be doing. I like to run my doses typically pretty low however so is there even a point of running 100 npp per week?

If you can only run three maybe 2 injections a week you might consider deca which is a longer acting ester. Tho if youve never used and have sides it takes bloody forever to clear your system.

 

[Mano]

If you can only run three maybe 2 injections a week you might consider deca which is a longer acting ester. Tho if youve never used and have sides it takes bloody forever to clear your system.

Honestly. I kinda feel like an idiot for not realizing this sooner. I have plenty of both. Not sure why I was dead set on npp over deca. So be it, 250 test, 200 primo, 250 deca instead of npp.

 

[Goldenrod]

I want to take about 400mg a week just not sure how to do so based on npps half life. Would I be ok shooting 1.12ml for 3 times a week if it is 125mg/ml?

You math isn't off and if you speak to most of the guys I know who compete and use NPP vs. Deca they inject M/W/F or EOD. You can take whatever you want but make it easier on yourself trying to get it perfect and just inject 1 ml 3 times a week and you will be getting 375 mg. Your body will absorb it into your blood and it will get to where it is needed.

I do not see how daily smaller injections vs. EOD injections is easier on the body - @Devson, not arguing, I am asking? Based on half lives, daily injections will eventually get the same amount into your blood and carried through the body.
375mg is more than enough to put on muscle/strength. I agree with @storman - I have used NPP 2 per week, 3 per week, EOD, and never found much of a difference in results or side effects. Based on the half life you shouldn't need to inject daily but it is the best way to have the most stable levels. I never had a side effect that was impacted by number of dosages. People indicate daily injections, but my blood tests with testosterone or compounds that impact estrogen indicate it does not with me (but may with you).
Per @CoolRick - I had amazing results with Deca/NPP even lower that 200 mg added to TRT, but my dosages have always been lower.

Best of luck @Bigbear

 

[Bigbear]

Honestly. I kinda feel like an idiot for not realizing this sooner. I have plenty of both. Not sure why I was dead set on npp over deca. So be it, 250 test, 200 primo, 250 deca instead of npp.

I chose npp so I can get it cleared out fast for blood work with my doc after. Also I ran deca at 300mg before and didn't really get much from it, I guess everyone is different but I wouldn't try it that low again personally.

 

[NSM]

Monday morning, Wednesday and Friday night 125 mgs

 

[joeblow543212]

IMO keeping your body saturated is going to yield the best results for sure. With 3 days a week you gonna get some big peaks and valleys:


Every other day looks better but still has some ups and downs:



Of course as one would expect daily floods you with a very consistent dose across the cycle:



I think if you want the absolute most out of your cycle every day is the way to go, every other day is ok and i'd probably pass on the 3 a week protocol too much up and down and potential for sides with those swings.

Just to add i accidentally used the wrong dosage on second chart but peaks and valleys remain unchanged they will just be below 2500ng/dl as other two show.

 

[Bigbear]

IMO keeping your body saturated is going to yield the best results for sure. With 3 days a week you gonna get some big peaks and valleys:
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Every other day looks better but still has some ups and downs:

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Of course as one would expect daily floods you with a very consistent dose across the cycle:

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I think if you want the absolute most out of your cycle every day is the way to go, every other day is ok and i'd probably pass on the 3 a week protocol too much up and down and potential for sides with those swings.

This is what im doing now just going with daily shots but its good to know anecdotally a lot of guys felt perfectly fine on 3 a week.

 

[CoolRick]

You math isn't off and if you speak to most of the guys I know who compete and use NPP vs. Deca they inject M/W/F or EOD. You can take whatever you want but make it easier on yourself trying to get it perfect and just inject 1 ml 3 times a week and you will be getting 375 mg. Your body will absorb it into your blood and it will get to where it is needed.

I do not see how daily smaller injections vs. EOD injections is easier on the body - @Devson, not arguing, I am asking? Based on half lives, daily injections will eventually get the same amount into your blood and carried through the body.
375mg is more than enough to put on muscle/strength. I agree with @storman - I have used NPP 2 per week, 3 per week, EOD, and never found much of a difference in results or side effects. Based on the half life you shouldn't need to inject daily but it is the best way to have the most stable levels. I never had a side effect that was impacted by number of dosages. People indicate daily injections, but my blood tests with testosterone or compounds that impact estrogen indicate it does not with me (but may with you).
Per @CoolRick - I had amazing results with Deca/NPP even lower that 200 mg added to TRT, but my dosages have always been lower.

Best of luck @Bigbear

Woops I forgot to mention when used as a standalone . I agree, when added on top of TRT even 100mg will do something noticable.

 

[CoolRick]

IMO keeping your body saturated is going to yield the best results for sure. With 3 days a week you gonna get some big peaks and valleys:
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Every other day looks better but still has some ups and downs:

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Of course as one would expect daily floods you with a very consistent dose across the cycle:

View attachment 103858

I think if you want the absolute most out of your cycle every day is the way to go, every other day is ok and i'd probably pass on the 3 a week protocol too much up and down and potential for sides with those swings.

Just to add i accidentally used the wrong dosage on second chart but peaks and valleys remain unchanged they will just be below 2500ng/dl as other two show.

If you want to keep it that stable why bother with NPP and just go straight to deca? Why want it stable at all? Especially when using it with other long acting compounds that act as a buffer between shots. Fluctuations in levels are a good thing IMO.

NPP isn't that short of an ester.

 

[Sorbate]

I have tried numerous ways of taking NPP.

Ones that didn’t work

Squirting it up my ass
Rubbing it on my skin
Drinking it

What worked

Injecting it


So I have come to realize that injecting NPP is the best way of taking it, EOD.

 

[joeblow543212]

If you want to keep it that stable why bother with NPP and just go straight to deca? Why want it stable at all? Especially when using it with other long acting compounds that act as a buffer between shots. Fluctuations in levels are a good thing IMO.

NPP isn't that short of an ester.

While on paper they shouldn't differ deca fucked with me mentally mad depressed and made my dick borderline useless, could get it up but couldn't get off for the life of me. NPP had a complete opposite effect, great mood libido was great and could always finish.

 

[CoolRick]

While on paper they shouldn't differ deca fucked with me mentally mad depressed and made my dick borderline useless, could get it up but couldn't get off for the life of me. NPP had a complete opposite effect, great mood libido was great and could always finish.

That doesn't have anything to do with injection frequency though.

I prefer to use nandrolone solo. Combining it with exogenous test is where the problems come from in my experience.

 

[joeblow543212]

That doesn't have anything to do with injection frequency though.

I prefer to use nandrolone solo. Combining it with exogenous test is where the problems come from in my experience.

It doesnt your right, it was more in response to why I now use npp vs deca.

 

[Bigbear]

That doesn't have anything to do with injection frequency though.

I prefer to use nandrolone solo. Combining it with exogenous test is where the problems come from in my experience.

Thats why I always pair it with a dht. I find it helps big time with libido

 

[Bigbear]

It doesnt your right, it was more in response to why I now use npp vs deca.

You could always try a higher test ratio to your deca dose that might help if you use and a.i with it. I remember the anabolic doc mentioning this but it kind of has premise here's a chatgbt on it

The Mechanism
Nandrolone (Deca) can increase prolactin and reduce dopamine activity, both of which can blunt libido, erections, and orgasm intensity.
It also suppresses DHT levels (since it doesn’t convert to DHT like testosterone does), and DHT is critical for sexual function and sensitivity.
Testosterone, on the other hand:
Supports dopamine and libido.
Converts to DHT and estradiol (both help with sexual function and mood).
Balances nandrolone’s suppressive neuroendocrine effects.
Ratio Considerations
A higher test-to-deca ratio (e.g. 2:1 or 3:1) often helps preserve libido and sexual function.
Example: 300 mg test + 100–150 mg Deca per week usually causes fewer sexual side effects than a 1:1 or lower ratio.
When Deca is run higher than test (or even equal), that’s when people most often report “Deca dick,” low libido, and orgasm issues.