Ahhh, that makes sense. So let's say one guy is on 3ius per day and is able to keep BG where it should be and one guy is on 10iu per daily and cant keep BG where it should be. Is the pancreas of the guy who is on 10iu just not able to produce enough insulin to keep up and why exogenous insulin is needed to keep BG where it should be?Because your body is increasing it’s insulin output, that didn’t negate the fact that blood glucose is increasing from the gh
if you take insulin your blood glucose drops, but your body releases glucagon snd your blood glucose rises. Does that mean insulin doesn’t drop blood glucose?
Not answering your question but kind of relevant...@Rocky good conversations !
So what test would you recommend someone taking before starting hgh to ensure it wouldn't necessarily screw him up? If you were low gh would there be harm in just optimizing gh?
Gh is really complicated and wasn’t meant to be released when eating food, or be chronically elevatedAhhh, that makes sense. So let's say one guy is on 3ius per day and is able to keep BG where it should be and one guy is on 10iu per daily and cant keep BG where it should be. Is the pancreas of the guy who is on 10iu just not able to produce enough insulin to keep up and why exogenous insulin is needed to keep BG where it should be?
@Rocky good conversations !
So what test would you recommend someone taking before starting hgh to ensure it wouldn't necessarily screw him up? If you were low gh would there be harm in just optimizing gh?
Ok thnx , i have 2 moniters (glucometer)? Thats what your talking about right? Our old cat had diabetes had to give him insulin so wifes pretty smart with the curves and crap lol , iv noticed on blood test my glucose was at 10 -2 hrs past eating wheee it should be around 6 or 7 around that time, so im slowly doing more research and think boarder line type 2 . Not sure sure yet. Just actually mentioned to wife last night i was fonna start testing when i get home.in a few monthsNot answering your question but kind of relevant...
My coach has me taking fasted BG twice per week. Something you should be monitoring if using HGH. I think I paid like $60 for the monitor.
Good advice sirGh is really complicated and wasn’t meant to be released when eating food, or be chronically elevated
gh does 2 things, it decreases insulin stimulated glucose uptake and it signals the liver to produce glucose
if you’re using gh at 10ius and have high blood sugars either your body is insulin resistant, your body isn’t producing enough insulin, or a combination of both.
to be honest I have no clue, I stopped using hgh once I realized the human body wasn’t supposed to have chronically elevated gh levels. I actually never liked gh subq or IM.
but if you have prediabeties / high blood sugars already like the OP said, using gh is only going to make things worse.
You should take a glucose tolerance test with insulin and blood glucose levels, it will give you a better idea of your insulin sensitivity and if you have insulin resistanceOk thnx , i have 2 moniters (glucometer)? Thats what your talking about right? Our old cat had diabetes had to give him insulin so wifes pretty smart with the curves and crap lol , iv noticed on blood test my glucose was at 10 -2 hrs past eating wheee it should be around 6 or 7 around that time, so im slowly doing more research and think boarder line type 2 . Not sure sure yet. Just actually mentioned to wife last night i was fonna start testing when i get home.in a few months
Appreciate your advice.
Same deal I think, I use the Onetouch verio flex... don't buy it, its terrible.Ok thnx , i have 2 moniters (glucometer)? Thats what your talking about right? Our old cat had diabetes had to give him insulin so wifes pretty smart with the curves and crap lol , iv noticed on blood test my glucose was at 10 -2 hrs past eating wheee it should be around 6 or 7 around that time, so im slowly doing more research and think boarder line type 2 . Not sure sure yet. Just actually mentioned to wife last night i was fonna start testing when i get home.in a few months
Appreciate your advice.
Actually if you look online for a printable certificate, you get the machine when you buy a thing of strips. So free machine for $50 of strips, which I believe was 100. That’s what I did. It’s a good machine as well, hooks up to my phone, if I was diabetic it would give me notifications on when to eat and so on, about the size of a lip stick tube.Get a blood glucose meter like @Sorbate mentioned. Get you doctor to write you a script for it and it shouldn't cost you more than $9 with strips.
As for your original question. Its impossible to give to a concrete answer.
I stopped using gh because I hated the way I felt on it. Even low doses I would feel crappy. If I tested more during the day, I bet it screwed with my blood sugar levels a lot.Gh is really complicated and wasn’t meant to be released when eating food, or be chronically elevated
gh does 2 things, it decreases insulin stimulated glucose uptake and it signals the liver to produce glucose
if you’re using gh at 10ius and have high blood sugars either your body is insulin resistant, your body isn’t producing enough insulin, or a combination of both.
to be honest I have no clue, I stopped using hgh once I realized the human body wasn’t supposed to have chronically elevated gh levels. I actually never liked gh subq or IM.
but if you have prediabeties / high blood sugars already like the OP said, using gh is only going to make things worse.
That's what I did, except my machine is trash.Actually if you look online for a printable certificate, you get the machine when you buy a thing of strips. So free machine for $50 of strips, which I believe was 100. That’s what I did. It’s a good machine as well, hooks up to my phone, if I was diabetic it would give me notifications on when to eat and so on, about the size of a lip stick tube.
Did you not notice any fat loss or body recomp?I stopped using gh because I hated the way I felt on it. Even low doses I would feel crappy. If I tested more during the day, I bet it screwed with my blood sugar levels a lot.
Plus I really didn’t find it did anything except fill you out a bit. Once you discontinue, you go back to normal.
Man, I feel like a million bucks on GH!I stopped using gh because I hated the way I felt on it. Even low doses I would feel crappy. If I tested more during the day, I bet it screwed with my blood sugar levels a lot.
Plus I really didn’t find it did anything except fill you out a bit. Once you discontinue, you go back to normal.
Interesting! I didnt know that. I went to the pharmacy and the lady said strips and checker was roughly 100 bucks or something like that. She said if I had benefits to get a script so, I did and both cost me 9 bucks.Actually if you look online for a printable certificate, you get the machine when you buy a thing of strips. So free machine for $50 of strips, which I believe was 100. That’s what I did. It’s a good machine as well, hooks up to my phone, if I was diabetic it would give me notifications on when to eat and so on, about the size of a lip stick tube.
I felt great every time I used it,I stopped using gh because I hated the way I felt on it. Even low doses I would feel crappy. If I tested more during the day, I bet it screwed with my blood sugar levels a lot.
Plus I really didn’t find it did anything except fill you out a bit. Once you discontinue, you go back to normal.
I don’t know why, but I don’t feel right. Didn’t matter which brand I used, unless it was crap gh, then I felt nothing.Man, I feel like a million bucks on GH!
Interesting! I didnt know that. I went to the pharmacy and the lady said strips and checker was roughly 100 bucks or something like that. She said if I had benefits to get a script so, I did and both cost me 9 bucks.
I’m not sure I got leaner from the gh or that I was dieting.Did you not notice any fat loss or body recomp?
Man I've been using for about (i think) 5 months now and I'm blown away.
You using generic or pharma?I’m not sure I got leaner from the gh or that I was dieting.
I still have a couple kits, I literally gave away the rest.
It constipates me as well. Which I won’t chance after my surgery.