HGH advice set me straight please

When I start up a GH run I'll do 2iu for a week or two then bump up to 3.3iu as that's just right for me and it splits up a vial into 3 even pins. I preload the whole vial in one syringe and just pop on a new needle for each pin. Sides are just starting to manifest but they're not bad: tingly finger tips, amazing sleeps, vivid dreams, manageable grogginess, etc. I really love the sleeps at this dose.

I've gone up to 5iu but i dont liking the sides that high. I'll still do 5iu but only for one week and I'll plan it in advance so I know I'll be all groggy and tired that week, diet will be on point, and coffee pre-made for morning workouts. Then back down to 3.3iu

I dont know how anyone can run 5iu+ for a long duration. 10iu would be like a tranq dart, I'd be out cold, lol!
 
Shrek said:
When I start up a GH run I'll do 2iu for a week or two then bump up to 3.3iu as that's just right for me and it splits up a vial into 3 even pins. I preload the whole vial in one syringe and just pop on a new needle for each pin. Sides are just starting to manifest but they're not bad: tingly finger tips, amazing sleeps, vivid dreams, manageable grogginess, etc. I really love the sleeps at this dose.

I've gone up to 5iu but i dont liking the sides that high. I'll still do 5iu but only for one week and I'll plan it in advance so I know I'll be all groggy and tired that week, diet will be on point, and coffee pre-made for morning workouts. Then back down to 3.3iu

I dont know how anyone can run 5iu+ for a long duration. 10iu would be like a tranq dart, I'd be out cold, lol!
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Maybe I'll try bumping up in a get weeks to find the upper limit for myself.
I have a job I'll be managing thats coming up so I'll need to have my wits and can't be lethargic on a construction site.
It would be nice to see where I'm at and what I can tolerate before sides appear. I'll do it slow so I can learn from the experience. The hgh I used years ago ( if truly real) came from China. Probably not good enough to create sides back then. 😕
 
Cain said:
I was reading about the SARMs you've suggested. Extremely interesting and I'll be studying them a little further. They seem like a very nice addition to any cutting cycle.
If I can maintain my current bf% throughout this cycle I'm currently running while putting my size and strength back on, I may try these to try and cut the body fat down again. This is of course once I hit my target weight of 250.
This is where I was before I became sick (254) winter weight. I would start cutting in late May. Usually cut to 240 for summer. After reading a little about these sarms I feel it may be a lot easier with out the aid of tren like in the past.
Tren and I don't see eye to eye anymore
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Ya using cardarine during my cycle got my bloods after when my test was still so I assumed my lipids and cholesterol would be looking like shit but nah it’s flawless. I think cardarine played a part forsure obviously diet and cardio but I think gw played a part forsure
 
Grey Beard said:
I agree with 2iu. This is my sweet spot, at 3iu I start to get sides. Start low and work up, you will find what your body likes......Starting too high would be a mistake in my opinion.

I find hgh makes a big difference, I plan on running 2iu a day for most of the year. I use opti as well.

Good luck.
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For me it did a bit with my facial appearance but I find it extremely underwhelming gains wise
 
ironwill said:
slow and steady with lots of blood work brother. I know its easy to get the fever, but if heart issues, maybe 250 is a thing of the past??
Be safe above all else, dont throw everything at it, try and be as clean as possible IMHO...
Not telling you what to do, just have seen this before and i lost a good friend, he got healthy, got the fever for size, then i got a call...Not being dramatic, it is reality..For many of us even if no previous issues and older than we were..Add in stress, scary shiznit..
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Not dramatic at all safety first brother. We’re trying to make our life better not shorten it. With your heart situation @Cain I’d be very very curious to see what happens if you ran a course of cardarine. Say 10mg a day for 12 weeks. I really love the stuff if I had to choose between hgh and cardarine myself I would pick cardarine. For me the endurance I get from it is unbeleivable and like I said after running a long test cycle ramped it up to 750 at the end my cholesterol and anythig to do with my heart on paper is excellent I live really clean and do a lot of cardio but still I really feel liek cardarine played a big part in it. Fuck t3 fuck clen that shit is dangerous imo. But for longgevity aspect of cardarine and the effects it has on your heart I love the shit myself and I don’t do Sarms I think they’re garbage this is the only one I have some faith in . I’d fund the cardarine curl for 12 weeks if you keep everyone updated on the health heart situation just cus I really wanna see this tested with someone who had cardiac issues. If your Intrested let me know I’ll send the money wherever u want. Just so we can do our own analysis of what it does or dosent do.
 
J pipes 71 said:
Not dramatic at all safety first brother. We’re trying to make our life better not shorten it. With your heart situation @Cain I’d be very very curious to see what happens if you ran a course of cardarine. Say 10mg a day for 12 weeks. I really love the stuff if I had to choose between hgh and cardarine myself I would pick cardarine. For me the endurance I get from it is unbeleivable and like I said after running a long test cycle ramped it up to 750 at the end my cholesterol and anythig to do with my heart on paper is excellent I live really clean and do a lot of cardio but still I really feel liek cardarine played a big part in it. Fuck t3 fuck clen that shit is dangerous imo. But for longgevity aspect of cardarine and the effects it has on your heart I love the shit myself and I don’t do Sarms I think they’re garbage this is the only one I have some faith in . I’d fund the cardarine curl for 12 weeks if you keep everyone updated on the health heart situation just cus I really wanna see this tested with someone who had cardiac issues. If your Intrested let me know I’ll send the money wherever u want. Just so we can do our own analysis of what it does or dosent do.
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I'll do some more reading on Cardarine over the next little while. I need to finish off the plan that I've already unleashed.
I stepped on the scale last night before bed and I was sitting at 223.8lbs im putting on weight rather easy right now.
I'll research the cardarine and see if it's going to be right for me to run it with a cutting cycle.
A major factor is going to be if there is any mental side effects that may arise. Cardiac issuse would be second to me. This is hard to explain and it sounds like I hard them backwards lol
But to sum it up. Ive lost ALL my old friends from the past 40 years and lost my new friends of recent years. Lost all.parts of my family with exception of my 3 kids and I don't see them often. Maybe 1x a month.
I don't want any darkness to return to my mind.
I blame my tren abuse on this along with my complete hormone crash.
My Cardiovascular issue. I've currently pinned down to mct powder. Pure triglycerides.
I never had any lipid troubles in the past and there's no heart troubles within the family.
In the end every thing I do now I need to dig into, so I'm sure of what to expect.
 
Cain said:
I'll do some more reading on Cardarine over the next little while. I need to finish off the plan that I've already unleashed.
I stepped on the scale last night before bed and I was sitting at 223.8lbs im putting on weight rather easy right now.
I'll research the cardarine and see if it's going to be right for me to run it with a cutting cycle.
A major factor is going to be if there is any mental side effects that may arise. Cardiac issuse would be second to me. This is hard to explain and it sounds like I hard them backwards lol
But to sum it up. Ive lost ALL my old friends from the past 40 years and lost my new friends of recent years. Lost all.parts of my family with exception of my 3 kids and I don't see them often. Maybe 1x a month.
I don't want any darkness to return to my mind.
I blame my tren abuse on this along with my complete hormone crash.
My Cardiovascular issue. I've currently pinned down to mct powder. Pure triglycerides.
I never had any lipid troubles in the past and there's no heart troubles within the family.
In the end every thing I do now I need to dig into, so I'm sure of what to expect.
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Caradarine versatile bulking or cutting I think it burns a wee bit of fat but it’s more the endurance boost that does it for me can just go way harder and longer.
 
J pipes 71 said:
Caradarine versatile bulking or cutting I think it burns a wee bit of fat but it’s more the endurance boost that does it for me can just go way harder and longer.
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When you say longer, are you meaning more time in the gym?
Right now, I'll do 2.5 hours consistently. I don't chat or sit on my phone. I purely train.
Depending on the lift, rest periods never exceed 1min
I always start with 15 minutes on the treadmill with a Incline 5 and pace of 4.1mph. This brings my hr up to 130 bmp
Train heavy for 2 hours, 1 hr for body part and then 15minutes on the treadmill at 3mph no Incline. This is to slowly bring my hr down and BP so I don't walk out and collapse.
Today, Thursdays.
I have a personal trainer that comes to my home and trains me for legs. Nothing hard for the hour. It primes me really well for the next 2 hours at the gym for my heavy legs. Honestly this is where I would love more endurance and to be able to go longer.
 
It's not in the Sarm family it's a Ppar agonist!
It has some great sounding potential. The one thing that stands out is the rapid cancer growth in some organs. This makes me nervous because of my pancreas. I had an infection in it from a gangrene gallbladder.
The decrease of low density lipids and triglyceride blood levels is extremely attractive as well. I assume this is the most likely reason for increased stamina with improved blood flow and oxygen delivery to the muscles.
You've definitely given me a direction of study. I won't rule it out as of yet, i must see what others have to say about it on some of the other boards.
 
Cain said:
When you say longer, are you meaning more time in the gym?
Right now, I'll do 2.5 hours consistently. I don't chat or sit on my phone. I purely train.
Depending on the lift, rest periods never exceed 1min
I always start with 15 minutes on the treadmill with a Incline 5 and pace of 4.1mph. This brings my hr up to 130 bmp
Train heavy for 2 hours, 1 hr for body part and then 15minutes on the treadmill at 3mph no Incline. This is to slowly bring my hr down and BP so I don't walk out and collapse.
Today, Thursdays.
I have a personal trainer that comes to my home and trains me for legs. Nothing hard for the hour. It primes me really well for the next 2 hours at the gym for my heavy legs. Honestly this is where I would love more endurance and to be able to go longer.
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Like for instance even in shape I would run at a good pace for 24 min than my energy fades off and I’m done…..on cardarine there is no phase off I can just keep pushing even if I’m dieting it hits me very hard aweosme stuff imo
 
Cain said:
It's not in the Sarm family it's a Ppar agonist!
It has some great sounding potential. The one thing that stands out is the rapid cancer growth in some organs. This makes me nervous because of my pancreas. I had an infection in it from a gangrene gallbladder.
The decrease of low density lipids and triglyceride blood levels is extremely attractive as well. I assume this is the most likely reason for increased stamina with improved blood flow and oxygen delivery to the muscles.
You've definitely given me a direction of study. I won't rule it out as of yet, i must see what others have to say about it on some of the other boards.
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I’m not sure how true the cancer thing is cus that study was very flawed the mice that they gave that are mice that always die of cancer I can’t remember what they’re called. This is how I think if it was this great thing that battles heart disease and is a testament for metabolic disorders forsure big pharma would not want us to have if we’re not fuct up we’re useless to them they aren’t making off us. And I haven’t been able to find to find one person who said they got cancer from cardarine. So I really take that side effect with a grain of salt I’m not saying it’s not true but myself don’t fully beleibe it and am will to risk Doug. It myself
 
It’s hars
To explain the boost but for lifting to i need less time in between sets it’s like all of a sudden ur aerobic energy system is just way stronger.
 
Shrek said:
When I start up a GH run I'll do 2iu for a week or two then bump up to 3.3iu as that's just right for me and it splits up a vial into 3 even pins. I preload the whole vial in one syringe and just pop on a new needle for each pin. Sides are just starting to manifest but they're not bad: tingly finger tips, amazing sleeps, vivid dreams, manageable grogginess, etc. I really love the sleeps at this dose.

I've gone up to 5iu but i dont liking the sides that high. I'll still do 5iu but only for one week and I'll plan it in advance so I know I'll be all groggy and tired that week, diet will be on point, and coffee pre-made for morning workouts. Then back down to 3.3iu

I dont know how anyone can run 5iu+ for a long duration. 10iu would be like a tranq dart, I'd be out cold, lol!
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It is weird how many of us are vastly different, 5 ius gives me a nice full look and feel and my appetite rises significantly. I can nap, but definitely not extra tired or tranq feeling. I am hyper by nature and a lot of energy, it doesnt affect that aspect. I get crazy hand pumps writing with a pen, or working the ol ladies g spot for some squirt action, i get a fucken wicked forearm pump and need to tap out until it subsides, but she gets greedy with the gushers anyway, turns her mediaeval in ways, rawr, that is the only negative thus far. Several weeks in now 5 days per week...
 
ironwill said:
It is weird how many of us are vastly different, 5 ius gives me a nice full look and feel and my appetite rises significantly. I can nap, but definitely not extra tired or tranq feeling. I am hyper by nature and a lot of energy, it doesnt affect that aspect. I get crazy hand pumps writing with a pen, or working the ol ladies g spot for some squirt action, i get a fucken wicked forearm pump and need to tap out until it subsides, but she gets greedy with the gushers anyway, turns her mediaeval in ways, rawr, that is the only negative thus far. Several weeks in now 5 days per week...
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5 iu would make me so fuckin lathargic but ya totally everyone wired diffrent by the look of your profile your way bigger and have a much more developed physique than me….maybe when you carry more muscle
Mass you can handle it better? Cus I know other ppl can do a lot and they’re fine.
 
J pipes 71 said:
5 iu would make me so fuckin lathargic but ya totally everyone wired diffrent by the look of your profile your way bigger and have a much more developed physique than me….maybe how when you carry more muscke
Mass you can handle it better? Cus I know other ppl can do a lot and they’re fine.
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That may be a possibility, some folks like @3bills and a few others i believe can run that high or higher with not too much issues...
Maybe i am turning into a petrified mass...lol...fossil town next...lol
 
Definitely have to work up to your dose. Even then some people still cant handle it

I take my whole dose before bed at night also. Not sure if that makes a difference or not
 
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