Graphene OS Review

CoolRick

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I've been hearing a lot of buzz about this OS for a while and decided to install it since I already have a Google Pixel 9XL.

For those who haven't heard about it you can read it about it here: https://grapheneos.org/

Basically it's privacy and security focused with the ability to "degoogle" your phone and run Google apps sandboxed so that Google has no access to my files(unless I give it to them), and can only send telemetry to Google from what's in that sandbox. In addition to the privacy features, there's a bunch of other security features that are considered "hardened" by many security experts in comparison to iOS or other Android builds, making it easily the most secure phone OS on the market.

Review

So far so good, super easy installation and everything works the way I'd like, Android auto and my smart watch work just fine. No tap to pay but I don't use that anyways.

Some people have issues installing some apps but so far I've been fine, even with banking apps. Whenever I can I download and install apps directly from the app developer's GitHub which makes up a good chunk of the apps available. The rest are installed via the sandboxed Google play store.

As for certain apps like Gemini AI, I've opted to not install the core AI apps as that's basically where a lot of the telemetry goes through. Instead I run Gemini through an app called Hermit which is basically a highly optimized browser that turns the web page into a "lite app". I've gone ahead and done this for just about anything I can, ranging from social media to Amazon's shopping app. The improvement of my battery life is astounding for an already 1 year old phone. I went the whole day on one charge, nearly 5hrs of screen on time and still had 45% battery left by bed time. It really speaks to how much these services are spying on us if they're constantly watching what we are doing, where we're going and even typing. Yes Gboard or other keyboards are basically spyware/ keyloggers. I do still use Gboard but I'm able to cut off all access to the internet, files etc on my phone.

I take internet security pretty seriously with a few of my devices running Linux if it's not for gaming, though I can game just fine on Linux if I'm willing to sacrifice things like framegen. So this was right up my alley as a new project to keep me busy. 🙂

For anyone considering trying out Graphene OS I'd say go for it, I'm not missing anything and so far I only see benefits. It's nice knowing I actually own the device I paid for instead of big tech being having their grubby little hands in it. Is it perfectly secure or private? Nothing connected to the internet really is. But this certainly shrinks the attack vector and gives me a shield against privacy and security threats.

Cheers!
 
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Good review man

Outside of buying the phone for cash (no IMEI number link to digital purchase) and pay as you go anon sim card, thats about as good as it gets privacy wise
 
Good review man

Outside of buying the phone for cash (no IMEI number link to digital purchase) and pay as you go anon sim card, thats about as good as it gets privacy wise
Thanks.

It certainly seems that way. For myself personally I wouldn't call myself anti Google or something but I'd rather be given the choice of what data I give as opposed to buying a device and it basically be spyware from the get go.

Microsoft has been doing this pretty badly now too especially with integrating copilot into the OS. I basically use Windows for gaming these days though. I even went as far as working on a GPU passthrough to run a Windows VM on real hardware but I ended up dual booting in the end 😂
 
Damn good review, I haven't tried Graphene OS but want to, I also run vm's of OS, love Linux specifically debian based security systems
 
Damn good review, I haven't tried Graphene OS but want to, I also run vm's of OS, love Linux specifically debian based security systems
Thanks! Give it a shot if you're inclined. At this point I can't tell anything changed. On the surface everything is basically the same.

I've come to like Fedora the most myself. I run that on my daily driver/ gaming PC and a cheapo laptop alongside Windows (dual booted). I also run Jellyfin on Fedora for my home media server on my gaming PC.

My steam deck runs Bazzite which is a fork of Fedora. I did get an old iMac for free that I use as a kitchen computer that runs Ubuntu because it still supports xorg which works better with the old dual GPU setups.

I'm working on getting my wife used to Linux and I'll be phasing out Windows for our daily computing needs. Windows will essentially be reserved for gaming only.
 
@CoolRick Bazzite is another one I want to give a whirl, my buddy just installed it, waiting on his reviews at work lol, SLI & Crossfire lol. Fedora is an environment I actually haven't had much time to play in. Ill give it a whirl after I move. In the kitchen I do have windows 11 ughn gross its a 8 core 16 thread mini pc quite a beast but ya I was think Linux Mint for the wife. God I miss dual gpu setups.
 
@CoolRick Bazzite is another one I want to give a whirl, my buddy just installed it, waiting on his reviews at work lol, SLI & Crossfire lol. Fedora is an environment I actually haven't had much time to play in. Ill give it a whirl after I move. In the kitchen I do have windows 11 ughn gross its a 8 core 16 thread mini pc quite a beast but ya I was think Linux Mint for the wife. God I miss dual gpu setups.
I haven't heard SLI and crossfire for years. I actually meant integrated + discrete graphics you'd see on laptops 10-15 years ago. One low powered, another high powered. Really goofy setup.

Fedora's real difference is with it's release schedule and package manager. Otherwise you could experience the GNOME desktop environment on many other distros. I like it for it's stability vs Arch while still getting new features sooner than say Debian.
 
I haven't heard SLI and crossfire for years. I actually meant integrated + discrete graphics you'd see on laptops 10-15 years ago. One low powered, another high powered. Really goofy setup.

Fedora's real difference is with it's release schedule and package manager. Otherwise you could experience the GNOME desktop environment on many other distros. I like it for it's stability vs Arch while still getting new features sooner than say Debian.
Fucking KDE was a good time, easy to mod the GUI & such, pretty cool, GNOME my first true love lol oh yeah those old AMD A10's & stuff, "APU's"
 
Quick question.. I'm running GraphenOS but don't know much about it (yeah ..I know LOL).. for like a Spotify or YouTube Music experience @CoolRick and everybody, what would you suggest? I downloaded Grayjay but Lots of stuff missing.

For banking I know I can go through Google play Store Mirror and for Android Auto mirror.. do you think it would be safe to use Android Auto still?
 
Quick question.. I'm running GraphenOS but don't know much about it (yeah ..I know LOL).. for like a Spotify or YouTube Music experience @CoolRick and everybody, what would you suggest? I downloaded Grayjay but Lots of stuff missing.

For banking I know I can go through Google play Store Mirror and for Android Auto mirror.. do you think it would be safe to use Android Auto still?
I still use Spotify but it's in the Google Play sandbox and I setup storage scopes for what folders it has access to. As far as Android auto it's recommended to install it via the Graphene OS appstore.

I'm not sure what you mean by is it safe to use android auto. It's just as safe as it was before just you now have the say in what access you want to give it.

In my case my phone pretty much functions like it used to. If you're trying to use the phone without Google services or wanting to compartmentalize non Google vs Google it's probably best to setup different user profiles or utilize the private space in this way. Otherwise you'll have a real hard time.

Unless you're irrationally afraid of big tech there's no need to avoid all services IMO.
 
I still use Spotify but it's in the Google Play sandbox and I setup storage scopes for what folders it has access to. As far as Android auto it's recommended to install it via the Graphene OS appstore.

I'm not sure what you mean by is it safe to use android auto. It's just as safe as it was before just you now have the say in what access you want to give it.

In my case my phone pretty much functions like it used to. If you're trying to use the phone without Google services or wanting to compartmentalize non Google vs Google it's probably best to setup different user profiles or utilize the private space in this way. Otherwise you'll have a real hard time.

Unless you're irrationally afraid of big tech there's no need to avoid all services IMO.
I really appreciate this thanks !!

I meant tracking position and everything with Auto Android
 
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