Going from a Cycle to a TRT Cruise 😅

[kaylo]

Hey guys!

So I'm gonna be a big boy here soon and I'm beginning to form a foundation of a plan

Im currently on TRT for 150 mg so I will most likely be going to a cruise default. But my question is what is the transition process?

Do I just go from Pinning 250 or 400 down to my 150 base dose the next week?

I will have Aromasin and Nolvadex, as well as script HCG. My HDL Cholesterol is a little low, so I be going with these for now

From my understanding, I should just be able to go to my TRT dose of 150 right after cycle. Just looking if there is anything I should do extra or be looking out for.

Thanks Boyz!

 

[Slartibartfast]

Hey guys!

So I'm gonna be a big boy here soon and I'm beginning to form a foundation of a plan

Im currently on TRT for 150 mg so I will most likely be going to a cruise default. But my question is what is the transition process?

Do I just go from Pinning 250 or 400 down to my 150 base dose the next week?

I will have Aromasin and Nolvadex, as well as script HCG. My HDL Cholesterol is a little low, so I be going with these for now

From my understanding, I should just be able to go to my TRT dose of 150 right after cycle. Just looking if there is anything I should do extra or be looking out for.

Thanks Boyz!

Ramping up when entering a cycle or blast, is something some people like myself do to minimize sides, but ramping down is not typically a thing. The ester will ramp it down for you over the course of 4-6 weeks. You really don't need to worry about it, especially at 400mg or so. The HCG if you need it, might be modified later once you settle down to 150, but otherwise I'd just let the compound peter out on its own down to a TRT level.

 

[kaylo]

Ramping up when entering a cycle or blast, is something some people like myself do to minimize sides, but ramping down is not typically a thing. The ester will ramp it down for you over the course of 4-6 weeks. You really don't need to worry about it, especially at 400mg or so. The HCG if you need it, might be modified later once you settle down to 150, but otherwise I'd just let the compound peter out on its own down to a TRT level.

Ramping up you say?? Hmmmmmm. That actually does sound like it would have benifits for managing sides.

I think I might just go full blast as I wanna squeeze in my blood work before my routine check up for TRT. If my body dislikes the process, thats great to have my my back pocket. Thank you!

Also, great point about the esters automatically dialing me down. An over site in my mind ahah. Thanks big guy!!

 

[Slartibartfast]

Ramping up you say?? Hmmmmmm. That actually does sound like it would have benifits for managing sides.

I think I might just go full blast as I wanna squeeze in my blood work before my routine check up for TRT. If my body dislikes the process, thats great to have my my back pocket. Thank you!

Also, great point about the esters automatically dialing me down. An over site in my mind ahah. Thanks big guy!!

I only do the ramping up thing because if I suddenly go from 150 to 700 test (or whatever) then I can get some unpleasant acne. That annoys me so, I find that just moving up the dose every 2-3 weeks avoids this. I think it's more to do with my estrogen levels sorting themselves out, but it helps so that's really the only reason in my case.

 

[kaylo]

God acne sucks. I had bad bacne for like 8 years. I finally said fk it and jumped on accutane. Been free of it for 6 years now. Only had to be on it for 6 months at like 20 mg I think
If it does come back; the trade off better be worth it ahaha

 

[JayJay24]

I only do the ramping up thing because if I suddenly go from 150 to 700 test (or whatever) then I can get some unpleasant acne. That annoys me so, I find that just moving up the dose every 2-3 weeks avoids this. I think it's more to do with my estrogen levels sorting themselves out, but it helps so that's really the only reason in my case.

Sorry to Hijack this thread - but I have similar question as my cycle is also comming up (I’m on 100mg TRT now)

Do I need to take any oral compounds to help me ease back to my TRT doses?

seems like those are not needed - but I just want to make this stupid proof for myself

 

[Slartibartfast]

Sorry to Hijack this thread - but I have similar question as my cycle is also comming up (I’m on 100mg TRT now)

Do I need to take any oral compounds to help me ease back to my TRT doses?

seems like those are not needed - but I just want to make this stupid proof for myself

It's not an unreasonable question. A lot of people really overcomplicate this aspect of PEDs. It seems like everyone, because they have access, are on like 12 different compounds.

So, no, not really. If you're on 500 test and 300 Mast or something like that, or even test and deca with an Ai, or some test and Eq....anything fairly common like that is simply a matter of lowering the dosage and waiting as the half lives lower the compound dosages in your system to whatever new level you're aiming for.
I can't really think of needing to add anything at all in terms of PEDs, certainly not orals if you're trying to get back to baseline and give your system a rest.

 

[gondar1]

@kaylo
Not opposed to anything @Slartibartfast has said, just adding another POV.

I'm all for either frontloading or ramping up but I suspect that on average ramping up would get you the most tissue built over the years. Could be a pretty negligible amount though and as stated there are reasons like urgency to FL instead.
I also think the ramping up is less stressful on the system especially if you look at the ratio of growth to stress - This is a cup runeth over situation when you FL. You could feel more of an initial punch but you are likely overshooting and wasting a bunch of the compound while still getting most of the sides of the bigger dose. You simply can't use it all until some adaptions occour, for example androgen receptor upregulation and the strength you gained allowing you to move more weight, that's all an expanding circular adaptation.

Titrating down? Yes the esters will do it but I'll betcha a dollar that taking a few steps down, say minus 100+ a week or so will be a smoother ride as your reactive hormones will have an easier time getting to the new homeostasis. Acne, sexual, mental etc. There are not any reasons that come immediately to mind that would cause dramatic and quick hormonal changes for men other than acute stressors or injury, I'd bet we are not well set up well to handle it smoothly, maybe we should help out a little.

Again there are reasons not too, like upcoming BW as you say but in general I'd ask why not?

IMO either way will work it depends on circumstances and how concerned one is about sides and/or squeezing out every last little percentage of available benefit.
If someone is a serious competitor choices like this are obvious. In a perfect world the negatives that come with the positives from this stuff would make them obvious for a recreational guy too. Those tiny lil %'s add up, good and bad.