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Shorter esters are more prone to have a bit more of a bite brother, the nature of the beastBeen pinning the Genetech cyp 250 for 4 weeks and their prop for the last week. Seems to give me significant more pip and lumping compared my TRT test. Tried multiple sites with the same result. Seems like the chest is the best site to minimize pip. I’m going to switch to a longer syringe to see if it helps. Performance/strength gains and size has been excellent between their Var and test. Very happy with this cycle so far.
Running some of their deca right now as well. Only 40 mg. Yeah seems a waste, but I just wanted a bit of sore joint relief.I just finished 2 vails of there deca smooth and worked well good product
I’m running a 29g 8mm insulin needle. Worked great with the taro or the cypionate I was getting from the pharmacy. But both the Cyp and prop from Genetech have caused sore sites and lumpsShorter esters are more prone to have a bit more of a bite brother, the nature of the beastWhat size syringe are you pinning with now?
Where are you pinning? Belly fat? Or in normal places.I’m running a 29g 8mm insulin needle. Worked great with the taro or the cypionate I was getting from the pharmacy. But both the Cyp and prop from Genetech have caused sore sites and lumps
Taro uses cottonseed as carrier. Genetec uses gso, that could be partially the difference depending on your body. Also, taro comes in 100mg per ml, meaning Genetec is 150% more concentrated which will have an impact on PIP.I’m running a 29g 8mm insulin needle. Worked great with the taro or the cypionate I was getting from the pharmacy. But both the Cyp and prop from Genetech have caused sore sites and lumps
I love prop. 1 ml no issues sub q Never get pip.Taro uses cottonseed as carrier. Genetec uses gso, that could be partially the difference depending on your body. Also, taro comes in 100mg per ml, meaning Genetec is 150% more concentrated which will have an impact on PIP.
As far as Test Prop goes, I haven’t tried a brands Test Prop that didn’t give me PIP. Some worse than others but all gave some degree of PIP. But I also know others who run 200mg shots of prop in their calves and say they never get PIP. I would be in a wheelchair for a week if I did that. Everybody is different and responds differently. Over time you will start to learn on a precise level what your body responds well to. It’s good to also try other top tier brands to see if their formulas give you less PIP. Some people respond better or worse to certain brands depending on their formulation and your body physiology.
Today I switched to a 27g half inch, best I could find at the 6th pharmacy I went to. I pin 0.5ml of prop into my left lat (never pinned there before) as every other site I was sore (both shoulders, both pecs, 2 spots in my stomach fat). Went in smooth and thought everything was good.Where are you pinning? Belly fat? Or in normal places.
I find you can’t pin UGL gear in your love handles or belly fat.
Next injection, inject in your delt like you would a normal intra muscular injection, but still use the insulin pin. Yes it won’t be an intra muscular injection, but I find those areas to be less prone to reacting.
I use 30 g 8mm insulin needles and the only time I get issues is if I pin my belly area. I just inject in normal areas.
Now with pharma gear that’s different, but they can get away with less “ba” because they are in a completely sterile lab with overzealous sanitation protocols. The UGL labs likely use a bit more, just to be sure, and I’d rather get a bit of pip than an infection.
Anyhow get back to me when you inject in a normal spot. If you get a bit of a bulge under the skin, just rub it out.
Please note, I’ve done over 600 sub q shots I bet. I used to love injecting every day.
Yeah that sounds like you are reacting to the carrier oil. Damn. And lats are a bitch if you havn't pinned them before. One time I could hardly lift my arm, lol.Today I switched to a 27g half inch, best I could find at the 6th pharmacy I went to. I pin 0.5ml of prop into my left lat (never pinned there before) as every other site I was sore (both shoulders, both pecs, 2 spots in my stomach fat). Went in smooth and thought everything was good.
Had a great workout and roughly 5 hours post injection I could feel the soreness kicking in. PIP is pretty rough right now but no lumping under skin. So I eliminated one of the problems by going with a longer needle. I might switch to Taro tomorrow and do 0.5ml into my right lat to see if I react poorly to the GSO Genetech uses compared to the CSO in Taro.
The Genetech test works well, I put on 12lbs of mass in 7 weeks and added significant amounts to my lifts….just wish I could do it without being sore everywhere. I’ve noticed that my back broke out the day after I switched from Cyp 250 to Prop 100. I’m assuming that’s likely normal due to the switch. I added an AI this week to see if it would help. I guess when I try another lab brand I’ll be sure to ask which carrier oil they use.
I switched to the Taro today and pinned 0.5ml into my right lat. 7 hours later and no pain. Compared to yesterday the pip was intense around this time. Felt like I was getting cold (full body soreness) based on how my body was reacting to it. This morning wasn’t as bad, still sore now but it’s better. Based on that trial I sure my my body isn’t a fan of the carrier oil Genetech uses. Thanks for the help and suggestions fellas. Much appreciatedYeah that sounds like you are reacting to the carrier oil. Damn. And lats are a bitch if you havn't pinned them before. One time I could hardly lift my arm, lol.
No UGL is going to be as smooth as pharma, but hopefully you’ll find one that has minimal pip. Good luck.I switched to the Taro today and pinned 0.5ml into my right lat. 7 hours later and no pain. Compared to yesterday the pip was intense around this time. Felt like I was getting cold (full body soreness) based on how my body was reacting to it. This morning wasn’t as bad, still sore now but it’s better. Based on that trial I sure my my body isn’t a fan of the carrier oil Genetech uses. Thanks for the help and suggestions fellas. Much appreciated
Thanks for the advice @SorbateNo UGL is going to be as smooth as pharma, but hopefully you’ll find one that has minimal pip. Good luck.
Np dude.Thanks for the advice @Sorbate
Yeah what a shitty situation that is... can't use Pareto either as they are GSO too.Np dude.
I guess now you know to ask the rep if they use gso before purchasing. That’s the part that sucks, learning sometimes costs money. It’s too bad because Genetec is really good gear, but not if you can’t handle the pip. Hey at least you can be happy to know you are unique, you are the only person I can think of off the top of my head who can’t handle gso, lol.
Sell the gear to a friend and recoup your money, then try out Dracorex, or one of the other guys. Fuck I hope you don’t react to MCT oil, lol. Maybe just buy a minimal at first.
If you ever have any questions just ask.
No UGL is going to be as smooth as pharma,
So you just want to argue?Why not? Testosterone prepared for injection is testosterone prepared for injection. If carrier oil is the same and the same BA/BB concentrations are the same and the raws are of high quality and the finished solution is sterile, then it’s generally the exact same thing as pharma.
So you just want to argue?