For people using Hikma enanthate
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The threads long enough that I don't want to read it all again rn. It seems to me though that the potential problem may be more about how guys are feeling rather than raw numbers. Also has a lean towards TRT rather than cycling I think so that makes sense to me because I believe TRT should be more about symptoms than numbers.
With all that in mind would you mind commenting on how you feel? And have you ever used anything besides Hikma? Just a short refresher of your situation might be helpful.
Thank you if you have the time to do it.
Was on Delatestryl originally and had a bottle of taro mixed in at one point when that’s all I could get.
I’m constantly adjusting my dose so I don’t think I can say one way or the other if my feel is off. I was on DHEA for several months along the way as well. I’ve been on 120 a week for a while now, plus 350 iu x 3 of HCG a week.
I’m about to run out and have a couple of bottles of Depo lined up.
I’m constantly adjusting my dose so I don’t think I can say one way or the other if my feel is off. I was on DHEA for several months along the way as well. I’ve been on 120 a week for a while now, plus 350 iu x 3 of HCG a week.
I’m about to run out and have a couple of bottles of Depo lined up.
I switched to test E from a good domestic ugl and NEVER looked back. No comparison!
Forgot to get back. Bloods were normal as Dela and Taro were.. but Dr did raise my dose just a little again. 140mg/ wk now.
Out of curiosity, how do you feel on Hikma. Mentaly. Energy. Libido wise compared to the old Delateatryl or Taro. Even thought the levels show the same. Do you feel any different?
What was your dosage prior to 140mg?
Prescribed 100mg but used 120 most times, two shots of .3
Reason for 140mg; he wants me to try 20mg (.1 a day × 7 days) to see if it brings down my E2 with daily shots instead of the two per week.
Feel alright most times. I'm a glass half empty type of guy as it is so would be hard to say if I felt worse. Not to be bleak, I'd wager I feel meh more than smiles most days. But I do feel like the daily admins have helped a bit. My E2 was like right at the ceiling of the Ref range and he still said it was good for heart and neuro health but I said I felt pretty mood swingy.
Next bloods are in Dec, can chime in once again then.
If I remember.. or @Bigbear reminds me
Just got my bloods back.
Total T: 1000
E2: 51 (regular test)
Free: 262
Hematocrit: 51
Hemoglobin: 16.9
120 mg / week, 3 x 40 mg
1050 iu HCG, 3 x 350 iu
Blood drawn ~84 hours after 80 mg shot.
I have no concerns with Hikma.
Two additions:
- going to drop to 105 a week to try to get that hematocrit and hemoglobin down a few points.
- I just switched to cypionate, going to retest in 8 weeks or so to see how things are at 105.
Total T: 1000
E2: 51 (regular test)
Free: 262
Hematocrit: 51
Hemoglobin: 16.9
120 mg / week, 3 x 40 mg
1050 iu HCG, 3 x 350 iu
Blood drawn ~84 hours after 80 mg shot.
I have no concerns with Hikma.
Two additions:
- going to drop to 105 a week to try to get that hematocrit and hemoglobin down a few points.
- I just switched to cypionate, going to retest in 8 weeks or so to see how things are at 105.
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I question the Taro also..,.finished a dela a little over a month ago, switched to Taro.....4 weeks in was tired, trouble recovering from workouts, low labido, etc...stopped the taro and switched back to Dela...in one week i felt great again. Hmmmmmmmmm....
Hopefully the Pfizer comes back soon or the new bosh is approved....the generics are inferior.
PS no blood work...but like you, i have been on TRT aloooooong time, i can feel when something changes...its not in my head.
I’m not saying it’s bunk but it’s definitely at least 10 to 15% underdosed
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Hello. As for the latest batches of Hikma. I know a few who have been using them for a few month's and seem okay with I'm althiuf it's not as strong as the original Delatestryl or even depo testosterone. It's okay for what they're could get.
The big problem now though is that there are major shortages and issues all over the US and Canada for injectable testosterone. There is no injectable testosterone in Stock at all right now and even depo had to stop production for months now.
Even most compounding pharmacies right now can't make it. Some have switched to androgel as it's not on shortage, but it's obviously inferior to injection for most.
Taro was supposed to be available this month, but keeps getting pushed back. Same without Hikma.
Also Tue original bayer testoviron was supposed to be available this month as the branded enanthate, but seems they have been delaying that as well.
That's all these information I haven't for now.
Testoviron or primoteston depot are both basically branded enanthate from Bayer. It's definitely one of the most powerful enanthates in the world. It was widely available in the US in the 80's and 90's and was the favorite amongst IFBB pros. It's very popular in Asia and the most scripted TRT testosterone in Europe. However it's still pending approval in Canada because of it's ampule form as Canada has never approved testosterone ampules in any form. This will be the first one and since 90% of people would prefer this branded enanthate compared to the generics, I see many shortages in the future just like we see with all branded testosterone.
3 month since I started trt on hikma 100mg split in two and 1000 iu hcg split
i have my follow up with the trt doc next week
we will probably end up lowering my dose so that my e2 can chill out too
- Testosterone –32.4 nmol/L
- Bioavailable Testosterone – 15.8 nmol/L
- Estradiol – 189 pmol/L
- PSA – 0.39 µg/L
- SHBG – 38.5 nmol/L
- Hemoglobin – 16.1 g/dL
- Hematocrit – 46%
- LDL – 2.3 mmol/L
- HDL – 1.2 mmol/L
- Cholesterol – 3.8 mmol/L
i have my follow up with the trt doc next week
we will probably end up lowering my dose so that my e2 can chill out too
My estrogen seems to be higher than expected from a 100mg dose as well.
Well, mine was already on the higher side before starting TRT, which was a bit concerning, so I’m not surprised that it’s gone up again.
A few years ago, it was at 69.
One year before I started TRT, it was 129.
And now it’s at 189...
I’m pretty lean too, so I don’t think I’m the problem — 170 lbs, 5'11", around 12% body fat.
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Don't over think it...if you feel fine leave it alone. All your number look fine. If you want to lower it a little because you don't feel optimal, pin EOD and see how your feel.
Why do you say your E2 is a problem?? Do you have gyno? Water retention resulting in high BP? Higher E2 is VERY heart protective. There are FAR more problems when folks manipulate the bodies nature levels and reduce E2.
Don't over think it...if you feel fine leave it alone. All your number look fine. If you want to lower it a little because you don't feel optimal, pin EOD and see how your feel.