Have the rest of you noticed that the cleanliness of stores/restaurants etc...has declined SIGNIFICANTLY ? We are now living in a garbage and filth riddled world. Garbage all over the streets, disgusting filth in every corner of restaurants, tables dirty, and all the god damned workers on their fucking phones. Obviously I don't go to restaurants aside from special occasions (where , hopefully, you get what yo pay for) but screw this shit. Fire these absolutely fucking useless workers and have some due diligence with your own business. Pride and work ethic are dead the way I see it.
FKing FILTHY
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I know in my town they can't really fire them.. For one, they need employees and there's not many people willing to take those restuarant/service jobs anymore. Secondly, a lot of the service/foods employees are immagrants. I believe they come from a lower standard of health/cleanliness. I'm sure they were somewhat trained on proper cleanliness, but its likely a new standard to them. Tied to this is that I believe businesses still get cheaper labour through the TFW programs. So if they can them and rehire, it will cost them more monthly.
Either way, I do see some places cleanliness gone down for sure. I took wife/kids for coffee and a doughnot to our Timmies.. Not one table was clean. You could see crumbs, garbage, coffee spills/drops on every single table.. Every single one.. Wife used a wipe to clean off the best one we found while the workers did nothing. I probably should have said something in hindsite and asked them to clean one off for us.. We sat there for around 45 mins as we had to kill some time.. during the entire time not one employee went around and cleaned off the tables.. And no, they were busy.. My family was the only ones sitting at table.. and they didn't have big lines.. I see this type of situation at most fast food places now.
Phones... lol.... fuck me.. I went for blood work at the hospital last week.. Since Covid they have had a 24 hour security guard at the main enterance.. I walked in and looked at him, headphones in both ears, phone in his hands and I had already walked in and sat down at reception before he ever noticed I was there. IF you can't keep your hired security guard off his phones and ear buds out of his ears while he works the main door at a hospitial: you ain't getting food industry workers off theirs..
I went to our local 'farmers market', the security guard was literally SLEEPING. I slammed my hand on the table he had his head resting on and woke him up. At a point where its not even worth it to go out anymore. My local gym, you could eat off the floor and equipment so there is my saving grace LOL
Yup its damn pathetic the state of life canada now. I dont eat food from tim hortons anymore. I still get coffee from certain locations that seem to be capable of not messing that up. Even then i still get a burnt one or grinds every so often.
Fast food is only good for me if it has old women still working there. They keep the ship running right usually. Otherwise forget it. A few of the shawarma places that actually are daily operated by the owners themselves are kept clean and stocked with from products.
Restaurants are a fuckin joke, dirty tables, floors, plates, cups, cutlery. Servers that cant get orders right and forget to bring things that essential to meals.
I wish i could its just a new immigrant issue but its not. Its new generation issue. These people cannot and do not even want to try to provide a good product and service. This problem is evident across the board though, not just food places. Mechanics, constuction, medical, service, everything.
Half ass is the new standard.
Red from that 70s show would have a few choice words these kinds of folks! As do i but all my choice words are no longer accepted by society, even though they absutely correct.
We now live in "the spectrum"
Fast food is only good for me if it has old women still working there. They keep the ship running right usually. Otherwise forget it. A few of the shawarma places that actually are daily operated by the owners themselves are kept clean and stocked with from products.
Restaurants are a fuckin joke, dirty tables, floors, plates, cups, cutlery. Servers that cant get orders right and forget to bring things that essential to meals.
I wish i could its just a new immigrant issue but its not. Its new generation issue. These people cannot and do not even want to try to provide a good product and service. This problem is evident across the board though, not just food places. Mechanics, constuction, medical, service, everything.
Half ass is the new standard.
Red from that 70s show would have a few choice words these kinds of folks! As do i but all my choice words are no longer accepted by society, even though they absutely correct.
We now live in "the spectrum"
This has all to do with the owners and management.
As the owner and manager I am the one who sets the direction for cleanliness. You instill that into the employees.
Lots of the chains the owner never works there, and they depend on the manager to take care of this so if the manager isn't doing their job well you get this issue.
My shop is not 100% at all times, but I stay on top of it. Created cleaning lists that are daily, weekly and monthly depending on what needs to be done. Honestly I can always find something to clean. I am grateful that my front end supervisor stays on top of it and keeps the place clean.
Now I am constantly praised by my health inspector and customers about how clean and organized my store is. Now with my store being clean really make a difference in shelf life of product because most of what we sell if uncooked/fresh. If the place is dirty the shelf life greatly reduces and then your losses become a lot higher.
This is why I partly pay a Christmas bonus. I explain that the Christmas bonus is dependent on our profits and if we are throwing out too much product or being too wasteful then it's their Christmas bonus they are losing.
The motivation really helps, who wouldn't want 2 weeks pay for free just to be diligent thru out the year?
As I said it starts at the top.
BTW this isn't just a "immigrant" issue, I have noticed the decline in cleanliness for a long time now, at least 15 years.
I am thinking it is partly from the attitude being portrayed on social media. Silent quitting and so on. People thinking that they are not being treated the way they wish and then are not putting in the same effort. All you hear online is how all businesses are abusing their employees at retail/restaurants and that the employees should reflect that in their work. Social media is a shit show.
Now the biggest fix is to stop going to these places, and use social media for good. Make comments about the cleanliness in posts and when it negatively effects their businesses then things will change.
As the owner and manager I am the one who sets the direction for cleanliness. You instill that into the employees.
Lots of the chains the owner never works there, and they depend on the manager to take care of this so if the manager isn't doing their job well you get this issue.
My shop is not 100% at all times, but I stay on top of it. Created cleaning lists that are daily, weekly and monthly depending on what needs to be done. Honestly I can always find something to clean. I am grateful that my front end supervisor stays on top of it and keeps the place clean.
Now I am constantly praised by my health inspector and customers about how clean and organized my store is. Now with my store being clean really make a difference in shelf life of product because most of what we sell if uncooked/fresh. If the place is dirty the shelf life greatly reduces and then your losses become a lot higher.
This is why I partly pay a Christmas bonus. I explain that the Christmas bonus is dependent on our profits and if we are throwing out too much product or being too wasteful then it's their Christmas bonus they are losing.
The motivation really helps, who wouldn't want 2 weeks pay for free just to be diligent thru out the year?
As I said it starts at the top.
BTW this isn't just a "immigrant" issue, I have noticed the decline in cleanliness for a long time now, at least 15 years.
I am thinking it is partly from the attitude being portrayed on social media. Silent quitting and so on. People thinking that they are not being treated the way they wish and then are not putting in the same effort. All you hear online is how all businesses are abusing their employees at retail/restaurants and that the employees should reflect that in their work. Social media is a shit show.
Now the biggest fix is to stop going to these places, and use social media for good. Make comments about the cleanliness in posts and when it negatively effects their businesses then things will change.
Probably 20 years ago I picked up on this trend at restaurants although I had already since plenty of shit at them doing certain jobs. I have some gag inducing stories, some even from high end kitchens. Eventually I picked up on something that turned into a strategy - If the bathrooms aren't pretty damn clean the kitchen isn't going to be either. So I started going straight to the bathroom before the table. If there was a wait I'd leave the name first then go. If it was dirty we would just leave.
Eventually it seemed like the chances of staying were getting so low we almost totally quit going out to eat. Even now I'm not above asking if I can have a peak in the kitchen, yeah I'm that weird.
Eventually it seemed like the chances of staying were getting so low we almost totally quit going out to eat. Even now I'm not above asking if I can have a peak in the kitchen, yeah I'm that weird.
Yes there's always been a decline in quality and caring standards since likely the 1950's but it has greatly accelerated the last 3-4 years and we know why.
This is true, I spent 10 years working in about 6-10 different occupied homes per day, all walks of life and some are super nasty like the hoarders TV show, any house could be like that inside but it's rare. I have seen how everyone lives no lie. I have literally thrown up when I left a house before but that was early in my career and you get desensitized. Generally the super high end homes are reliably clean when I've been there but they also usually have professionals cleaning for them, there's no way to really now what condition to expect inside a house until you go inside. I will never forget this one house that was a surprise not because it was the worst I've seen, I saw a couple piles of dog poop, the house was messy and stunk, no big deal not too uncommon. honestly the surprising part was that they were professional surgeons.
My wife and I like to go to open houses for fun. It blows my mind how many are not overly clean. I mean you are selling your house, and why doesn't the listing agent say something or maybe dust a bit?
Most people live with clutter, I also do but I learned that when they would say I haven't had time to clean this week or I just moved in I was in for a treat, it would either be spotless or borderline unlivable conditions. The time I puked was shocking and unforgettable, I remember it was a luxury high-rise I could smell something bad when I got to his floor and I was thinking please don't be the place I gotta go to and as I walked down the hall it kept getting stronger, I rang the bell and the door had an automatic door opener, dude was in a wheelchair, it looked like a horror movie blood and fecal matter all over the floor, it was bad and he looked ashamed, no way I was hiding the shock on my face but what got me was when I moved something and saw a open jar of mayonnaise almost full crawling with maggots inside.
Damn.
I am so glad my wife is insane about cleanliness. She tidies before the cleaning lady comes (I know crazy).
But no way I could live in filth. Don't know how a normal able bodied person does it.