First post looking for advice on cycles

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JasonH

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Hi all
I've been on TRT through Upguys for almost a year, prescribed test E 100mg per week, doc says if I'm feeling good and no side effects then no need to increase dose. In my younger years I did a cycle of Dbol and then another of Winstrol, looking back at it, it was probably a waste and a little reckless as I was 20 years old and took one pill a day and no blood work (only did it for a month). Against my TRT docs wishes I did 300mg of test E for 8 weeks with good results, but I want to add to my cycle next time. I'm thinking of doing test E 400mg and Masteron 300mg total per week, pinning 3 times a week. I get blood work done every 3 months so I have been sneaking in extra test and then cutting back before my blood work which isn't ideal. Basically I'm keeping the TRT doc happy but not myself happy, I'm thinking of quitting the TRT and getting my bloods done privately. That way I can accurately see what's happening with my blood on cycle. Anyways advice would be appreciated, is Masteron a good choice to run with test E? If off cycle I drop down to 150mg per week of test E is a PCT needed or would 150mg of test E be my PCT? Never had any Gyno or acne yet, or sides that I'm aware of.
-Hematocrit has always been low at 45-46
-last blood work Estradiol 180 pmol/L and test 29.3 nmol/L
-51 year old male
-225lbs. 24% BF
-work out every other day
-active on my days off mountain biking ect
-Goal 14-15% body fat currently on Reta and pack on some muscle
 
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If you want to add more test while being on prescribed trt then use prop on top of your prescription. Drop the prop 2 or 3 weeks before you have to get bloods done.
If your going to let your script go, then you can do whatever you want.
Mast is fine to add. So if primo or npp or anavar. Do your research and decide what you want to try.
Get the bf down tho
 
Bigbear said:
100mg of test E per month is that a typo?
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My family doctor started me on 100mg/month injection. He also didn't do any blood work for over 2 years. He moved and I got a NP taking over my file. She looked at my file and new blood work and sent me to an endo right away. Took six months to get an appointment with him. The endo did bloods and looked through my file. He was shocked and kinda pissed at how my old family doc handled my treatment. I know from experience how important it is to find a good doctor/endo now.
 
storman said:
If you want to add more test while being on prescribed trt then use prop on top of your prescription. Drop the prop 2 or 3 weeks before you have to get bloods done.
If your going to let your script go, then you can do whatever you want.
Mast is fine to add. So if primo or npp or anavar. Do your research and decide what you want to try.
Get the bf down tho
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Thanks for your response, I'm definitely working on getting the BF down. I was a little shocked that I'm 24% BF (embarrassed actually), I don't look that bad in the mirror.
 
onelife said:
My family doctor started me on 100mg/month injection. He also didn't do any blood work for over 2 years. He moved and I got a NP taking over my file. She looked at my file and new blood work and sent me to an endo right away. Took six months to get an appointment with him. The endo did bloods and looked through my file. He was shocked and kinda pissed at how my old family doc handled my treatment. I know from experience how important it is to find a good doctor/endo now.
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100mg a month?? That’s bordering on malpractice.
 
killer.queen said:
100mg a month?? That’s bordering on malpractice.
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I remember trying to talk to doctor about half life's and proper trt schedules. He just ignored me, hes a doctor im a peasant kinda situation. He also refused to let me do my own shoots. He told me i need a professional to do it lmao. I was lucky enough to have access to UGLs so I was able to make my own trt plan. This was over 10 years ago. My NP got me a referral so everything is covered.
 
I suggest playing by the doctor’s suggestions. Bring up nothing. Be happy you have it. Bloods once he sees the numbers he needs will be reduced to once per year. Blast away after that and enjoy a lifetime of pharma test to do with what you wish. Shortly HG will be rather valuable 😉 the supplies of UGL are dwindling by the day. Demand far outstrips supply of raws for over a year now.
 
As per above I would not give up my script. If blood work is done every 3-6 weeks, nothing wrong with adding in test prop and nothing else. Considering you have not used large amounts and other compounds much, you should get great results. Like @storman said, stop weeks before and change over to your normal test E. I would do a few dry runs yourself and pay for the testing to make sure you don't lose your script. I did this with test prop and test E - to determine how long it would take to be back into normal parameters or on the low side of normal.
A lot will depend on what your doctor tests - just total test then primo/masteron will not change your numbers. Nothing wrong with low test and another compound for a cycle. If they do blood for free test, your doctor may wonder why it jumped through the roof with the addition of a DHT.
NPP/Deca both can show up in blood work as testosterone but it is subjective. Adding 100 mg of Deca or NPP is not like adding 100 mg of testosterone or it isn't for me. I would stick with NPP as the ester is shorter. Again, getting blood work done yourself while taking whatever dosage you are going to use of adding NPP/Deca will let you know if you can keep your test the same and use Deca/NPP and still get blood work done with your doctor.
These have been my experiences, yours may be different. You should respond well to low dosages if just on TRT - referring to increasing your TRT or adding a low dosage of another compound. Nothing wrong with a 2 month cycle even though it is not the recommended time but with bloods done every 3 months you can gain a lot in 2 months on short/mid esters. @CoolRick does two month cycles all the time I believe. When I started using PED's - that was the norm, many moons ago.
Good luck
 
@Goldenrod I indeed moved towards shorter cycles and had phenomenal results even with long ester compounds like deca. By the 8 week mark I was not really seeing much out of it anymore. Coming off seems to have a "rebound" effect that has the gains continue I might add. So is an 8 week cycle really 8 weeks? I'd say it's more like 12 since since I'm reaping the benefits as the levels come down. In the future should I cycle again, I may even try 6 weeks since applying my 3-4 week extra formula makes it 9-10 weeks.

I'm weird though so there's that, most people from what I've seen won't respond to a shot of deca or test quickly the way I do.

My suggestion for OP due to the constraints of getting blood work is to use orals for 4 weeks or so. They're in and out quicker than most injectables. I don't know how you go about explaining anything that's skewed on your blood work outside of your hormone stuff or if they even check for that. If they're checking in on you so often and the prescription means that much to you I'd personally not bother.
 
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