First cycle recommendations

PJ23

PJ23

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Hey guys,

I am pretty much a noob to all of this. I've been training natty for the last 3 years as a powerlifter, but with more powerbuilding type movements. I was thinking of just a test e cycle at 400mg every 5 days. I have a buddy telling me to increase that to 500mg and add an oral (dbol @ 50mg per week) and to just blast and cruise.

I'm 5'11 175lbs 8-10% bf

I know I sound like an idiot here. I'm going to do a lot of research so I am thankful to be on here. I like the idea of starting small but I don't want to hinder progress. It's early to say but a lot of people are telling me I could go pro if I did it right. And they gym is all I have. So I don't want to screw anything up.

Cheers
 

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You do not sound like an idiot.

350-500mg test c/e for 12-16 weeks. Pin E3.5.

I would not use dbol on your first cycle. If you're set on an oral pick one that doesnt aromatize. IMO first cycle is all about juggling and managing estrogen (and lots of gains of course).

I would highly recommend you PCT at least off your first cycle so you know how you recover and so you have a grasp on what it entails for if life happens and you dont want to B&C anymore.

Some good reading here too: https://www.canadianbrawn.com/threads/your-first-cycle.2699/
 
you look young and I assume you are - if you blast and cruise you may cause permanent issues with making babies which could be an issue down the road. I haven't been around long and I see a post about this topic every month. Just a basic trt dose of 5 mg-10 mg of test cream or 100 mg of test a week can turn your balls into pea sized and you can have zero sperm. I know this as it happened to me. Month later they came back but were not normal and it took a long time before my sperm was considered normal albeit all it takes is one. Just something to think about.
Each to their own but you look natural now - better than some on gear. I would not blast and cruise. If your going to do a cycle - listen to @ABMonkey - even 300 mg of test alone and your going to get gains cause there is no way your body is making 300 mg of test natural a week.
if you fuck with viagra or cialis - there is usually a noticable difference even if you don't need it. Work out with steroids - and it may be hard to work out without. Few things to think about.
Good luck
 
ABMonkey said:
You do not sound like an idiot.

350-500mg test c/e for 12-16 weeks. Pin E3.5.

I would not use dbol on your first cycle. If you're set on an oral pick one that doesnt aromatize. IMO first cycle is all about juggling and managing estrogen (and lots of gains of course).

I would highly recommend you PCT at least off your first cycle so you know how you recover and so you have a grasp on what it entails for if life happens and you dont want to B&C anymore.

Some good reading here too: https://www.canadianbrawn.com/threads/your-first-cycle.2699/
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Goldenrod said:
you look young and I assume you are - if you blast and cruise you may cause permanent issues with making babies which could be an issue down the road. I haven't been around long and I see a post about this topic every month. Just a basic trt dose of 5 mg-10 mg of test cream or 100 mg of test a week can turn your balls into pea sized and you can have zero sperm. I know this as it happened to me. Month later they came back but were not normal and it took a long time before my sperm was considered normal albeit all it takes is one. Just something to think about.
Each to their own but you look natural now - better than some on gear. I would not blast and cruise. If your going to do a cycle - listen to @ABMonkey - even 300 mg of test alone and your going to get gains cause there is no way your body is making 300 mg of test natural a week.
if you fuck with viagra or cialis - there is usually a noticable difference even if you don't need it. Work out with steroids - and it may be hard to work out without. Few things to think about.
Good luck
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Thank you
 
I would vote for 300mg-500mg Test and a DHT oral like anavar at 60mg daily for 12 weeks. .Do a good PCT and see how well you recover to normal.Then you can judge your results/gains and adjust for next cycle.I would have aromasin on hand if going as high as 500mg and I believe very much in aromasin during PCT
 
I like 500mg per week, and near the end of your cycle maybe add some tbol if you like.

Just keep your cycle simple, and good lucky.
 
You look wicked natural. When I was your age and looked similar to that I never thought of gear.
The body you already have makes woman drool when they see you with a shirt off. It is the shape that would be at the peek level of droolability.
You have done a great job.
Now since you respond really well naturally myself I would only run 300 mg of test e broken into 2 pins a week for 16 weeks, then run your pct.
Increase your calories and do not get scared of getting fat, you will watch progress almost daily after a month.
At this dose you will likely not have to worry about an estrogen blocker, minimize acne. Plus balancing estrogen really fucking sucks and almost impossible to do. This is why for a few years now I’ve kept my test low, and ran another compound that doesn’t aromatize.

Good luck, whatever you choose to do, put the same effort you have in already and you’ll come out happy in the end.
 
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Sorbate said:
You look wicked natural. When I was your age and looked similar to that I never thought of gear.
The body you already have makes woman drool when they see you with a shirt off. It is the shape that would be at the peek level of droolability.
You have done a great job.
Now since you respond really well naturally myself I would only run 300 mg of test e pinned 2 times a week for 16 weeks, then run your pct.
Increase your calories and do not get scared of getting fat, you will watch progress almost daily after a month.
At this dose you will likely not have to worry about an estrogen blocker, minimize acne. Plus balancing estrogen really fucking sucks and almost impossible to do. This is why for a few years now I’ve kept my test low, and ran another compound that doesn’t aromatize.

Good luck, whatever you choose to do, put the same effort you have in already and you’ll come out happy in the end.
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You mean like 2 shots of 150 mg / wk right? Not 300 twice a week? I’d say this guy would grow and respond well to a 16 week of 400 test E or C ... just be aware @PJ23 once you turn to the Dark side there’s usually no turning back... but I don’t regret doing them And I know there wasn’t anybody who could talk me out of it... but listen to these guys about proper cycling instead of legit just jumping to blasting and cruising... a proper PCT and off cycle time ( even 2-3 months a year) in my experience can make your next cycle even more effective...I PCT once a year now because I’d like to keep my nuts working, but for more long term gains as well. Guys will say it’s a marathon not a sprint.. and they’re right lol. Take it from a guy who is even hitting a wall many cycles later, take your time do it safe.
 
Canadianbeaut said:
You mean like 2 shots of 150 mg / wk right? Not 300 twice a week? I’d say this guy would grow and respond well to a 16 week of 400 test E or C ... just be aware @PJ23 once you turn to the Dark side there’s usually no turning back... but I don’t regret doing them And I know there wasn’t anybody who could talk me out of it... but listen to these guys about proper cycling instead of legit just jumping to blasting and cruising... a proper PCT and off cycle time ( even 2-3 months a year) in my experience can make your next cycle even more effective...I PCT once a year now because I’d like to keep my nuts working, but for more long term gains as well. Guys will say it’s a marathon not a sprint.. and they’re right lol. Take it from a guy who is even hitting a wall many cycles later, take your time do it safe.
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Yeah 150 mg pinned twice a week, lol. I was not functioning math wise yesterday, thx.
 
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