Fall cycle here we go

[T77]

Ok folks, got blood work back and everything was in healthy ranges. Oddly my HDL and LDL were better than before my first cycle which was worried about due to using dbol at beginning of cycle and Anavar at end. Have to wonder if that due to retatrutide or just me being awesome . Also was still on 180 per week test cypionate during these tests.Look and feel better than have in 20 years.

For this cycle looking at keeping compounds low but having a clearer plan this time and hoping to minimize use of AIs. Will also be on 1.5mg reta per week and Telmisartan 20mg daily for BP. Last cycle bp climbed so will be proactive this time. HGH 2iu daily. Also taking 5 mg cialis daily but may take that out.

Week 1- Test Cypionate 250, Deca 125, Eq 100
This first week is really about getting started and making sure no odd reaction to the Eq.
Week 2- Test Cypionate 300, Deca 125, Eq 150
Plan to run at this dose for 4-6 weeks before possibly upping the deca or test. Going to determine increases based in gains, lab work and how I feel. Plan is 16-20 weeks depending on the labs etc.

On top of this im in too many supplements to list but taking several fo

 

[T77]

Ok folks, got blood work back and everything was in healthy ranges. Oddly my HDL and LDL were better than before my first cycle which was worried about due to using dbol at beginning of cycle and Anavar at end. Have to wonder if that due to retatrutide or just me being awesome . Also was still on 180 per week test cypionate during these tests.

For this cycle looking at keeping compounds low but having a clearer plan this time and hoping to minimize use of AIs. Will also be on 1.5mg reta per week and Telmisartan 20mg daily for BP. Last cycle bp climbed so will be proactive this time. Also taking 5 mg cialis daily but may take that out.

Week 1- Test Cypionate 250, Deca 125, Eq 100
This first week is really about getting started and making sure no odd reaction to the Eq.
Week 2- Test Cypionate 300, Deca 125, Eq 150
Plan to run at this dose for 4-6 weeks before possibly upping the deca or test. Going to determine increases based in gains, lab work and how I feel. Plan is 16-20 weeks depending on the labs etc.

On top of this im in too many supplements to list but taking several fo

Also HCG 500 per wk. And have multiple forms of AI on hand if needed as well as dbol in case of estrogen crash.

 

[DeeKnows]

I call this sports trt or cruise.
Basically your cycle is just 300 test because the rest is joint support and estro reduction only.

 

[CoolRick]

Nice looking cycle. Looking forward to see how you do.

 

[CoolRick]

I call this sports trt or cruise.
Basically your cycle is just 300 test because the rest is joint support and estro reduction only.

Please tell me you're joking.

 

[logan11847]

Ok folks, got blood work back and everything was in healthy ranges. Oddly my HDL and LDL were better than before my first cycle which was worried about due to using dbol at beginning of cycle and Anavar at end. Have to wonder if that due to retatrutide or just me being awesome . Also was still on 180 per week test cypionate during these tests.Look and feel better than have in 20 years.

For this cycle looking at keeping compounds low but having a clearer plan this time and hoping to minimize use of AIs. Will also be on 1.5mg reta per week and Telmisartan 20mg daily for BP. Last cycle bp climbed so will be proactive this time. HGH 2iu daily. Also taking 5 mg cialis daily but may take that out.

Week 1- Test Cypionate 250, Deca 125, Eq 100
This first week is really about getting started and making sure no odd reaction to the Eq.
Week 2- Test Cypionate 300, Deca 125, Eq 150
Plan to run at this dose for 4-6 weeks before possibly upping the deca or test. Going to determine increases based in gains, lab work and how I feel. Plan is 16-20 weeks depending on the labs etc.

On top of this im in too many supplements to list but taking several fo

Looks like a solid cycle man, best of luck.

 

[Vitko]

Ok folks, got blood work back and everything was in healthy ranges. Oddly my HDL and LDL were better than before my first cycle which was worried about due to using dbol at beginning of cycle and Anavar at end. Have to wonder if that due to retatrutide or just me being awesome . Also was still on 180 per week test cypionate during these tests.Look and feel better than have in 20 years.

For this cycle looking at keeping compounds low but having a clearer plan this time and hoping to minimize use of AIs. Will also be on 1.5mg reta per week and Telmisartan 20mg daily for BP. Last cycle bp climbed so will be proactive this time. HGH 2iu daily. Also taking 5 mg cialis daily but may take that out.

Week 1- Test Cypionate 250, Deca 125, Eq 100
This first week is really about getting started and making sure no odd reaction to the Eq.
Week 2- Test Cypionate 300, Deca 125, Eq 150
Plan to run at this dose for 4-6 weeks before possibly upping the deca or test. Going to determine increases based in gains, lab work and how I feel. Plan is 16-20 weeks depending on the labs etc.

On top of this im in too many supplements to list but taking several fo

Baby cycle tbh, but hey if it works it works. Minimum effective dose and all.
I’d personally do 4-500 test, 200 npp, 300 eq

 

[T77]

Baby cycle tbh, but hey if it works it works. Minimum effective dose and all.
I’d personally do 4-500 test, 200 npp, 300 eq

I may get close to those doses 6 weeks in. Likely stick to Deca unless it causes me issues in which case I have Npp as well.

 

[T77]

I call this sports trt or cruise.
Basically your cycle is just 300 test because the rest is joint support and estro reduction only.

I would disagree with you but thats ok. By your reasoning the 125 deca and 150 Eq have no effect on increasing muscle mass which I dont believe. Are these huge doses that will put on 30 pds. Nope, but Im ok with that. Im 49 and looking to slowly add lean muscle while keeping dosages as low as possible while still getting positive effects. And as I stated I may increase doses if I feel the need but if Im putting on lean muscle and feel good I might stick with this all the way through

 

[logan11847]

I would disagree with you but thats ok. By your reasoning the 125 deca and 150 Eq have no effect on increasing muscle mass which I dont believe. Are these huge doses that will put on 30 pds. Nope, but Im ok with that. Im 49 and looking to slowly add lean muscle while keeping dosages as low as possible while still getting positive effects. And as I stated I may increase doses if I feel the need but if Im putting on lean muscle and feel good I might stick with this all the way through

Exactly man, Definitely more than enough to build muscle, while still keeping it really safe for a cycle and should barely even skew your health markers.


Everyone responds differently as well, androgen receptor sensitivity is very real and there’s no reason to push absurd doses unless you want to compete.

You’re always better off on the low side of dosages than the high side.

 

[T77]

Exactly man, Definitely more than enough to build muscle, while still keeping it really safe for a cycle and should barely even skew your health markers.


Everyone responds differently as well, androgen receptor sensitivity is very real and there’s no reason to push absurd doses unless you want to compete.

You’re always better off on the low side of dosages than the high side.

Yup thats my thoughts. Im ok with less gains if means I stay healthy and feel good.

 

[Focusin]

you should put on some decent size and strength. thats more than enough gear to get the job done

 

[Trenbolone&Cheese]

definitely constitutes a small blast. to call this TRT+ would be mischaracterized.

what’s your goal with this cycle? bulk? cut? recomp?

i only ask as that changes doses for me. i don’t run a lot of gear in a growth phase as i let the food do the heavy lifting. i run more drugs when cutting to help preserve muscle and potentially help put some muscle on while the calories aren’t a -500 deficit yet.

 

[CoolRick]

"High" and "low" dosages are relative to the individual.

What I don't understand is the mentality that "if you're not doing what I'm doing it must be wrong or not hardcore enough" with complete disregard for the goal, application or how the individual actually responds.

 

[T77]

definitely constitutes a small blast. to call this TRT+ would be mischaracterized.

what’s your goal with this cycle? bulk? cut? recomp?

i only ask as that changes doses for me. i don’t run a lot of gear in a growth phase as i let the food do the heavy lifting. i run more drugs when cutting to help preserve muscle and potentially help put some muscle on while the calories aren’t a -500 deficit yet.

Goal would is to gain 6-8 pds lean muscle without major fat increase. Again Im not a bodybuilder just an old guy trying to get to the build ive always wanted or as close to as possible

 

[DeeKnows]

Please tell me you're joking.

Which sentence did u wish to be a joke? I wasnt joking for both but we can discuss sentence one or sentence two or both.

 

[Trenbolone&Cheese]

Which sentence did u wish to be a joke? I wasnt joking for both but we can discuss sentence one or sentence two or both.

to say the EQ and nandrolone are 0% anabolic and do nothing to add growth is just completely wrong. so no, it wouldn’t just be “300 test with ancillaries.” what would even lead you to believe that out of curiosity?

 

[T77]

Which sentence did u wish to be a joke? I wasnt joking for both but we can discuss sentence one or sentence two or both.

Im always open to criticism and suggestions, by no means do I belive I have this all figured out. Id like to hear your thoughts on both. In my mind 300 would be a very high cruise for most but again what I see as high someone more experienced may see as minor. More so id like to hear thoughts on Eq and deca at those doses not having any anabolic value. At least thats what I think your implying.

 

[KootenayRider]

I mean, i blow up on 300mg of test alone. I also had many people staring at me when I walk through town and many commenting while on around 140 test and 140 primo after 3- 4months. Strength went way up and im still lifting the same weights I attained, generally now.

I think people forget that everyone is different when it comes to all these variables.

Diet and rest are massive factors.

I know a few fellas who takes far more (like alot of peds) and look like shit generally due to lack of consistency.

So I guess critiques of a particular stack can only go so far, and it really comes down to discovering what works best for you. That said, there are usually some general rules and ratios that work for many that are good to share. Experimentation is super fun and everyone has differing goals here.

Myself, I don't see anything wrong with your approach, and I tend to ease into it from the health approach and increase until I see unwanted sides. Don't really bother with AIs that much because I dont need them as I so far get results im happy with.

Best of luck! Dont feel pressured to increase if youre already seeing good progress and feel good. For many of us, its a life journey, it certainly has become one for me and its been for all the better.

 

[T77]

I mean, i blow up on 300mg of test alone. I also had many people staring at me when I walk through town and many commenting while on around 140 test and 140 primo after 3- 4months. Strength went way up and im still lifting the same weights I attained, generally now.

I think people forget that everyone is different when it comes to all these variables.

Diet and rest are massive factors.

I know a few fellas who takes far more (like alot of peds) and look like shit generally due to lack of consistency.

So I guess critiques of a particular stack can only go so far, and it really comes down to discovering what works best for you. That said, there are usually some general rules and ratios that work for many that are good to share. Experimentation is super fun and everyone has differing goals here.

Myself, I don't see anything wrong with your approach, and I tend to ease into it from the health approach and increase until I see unwanted sides. Don't really bother with AIs that much because I dont need them as I so far get results im happy with.

Best of luck! Dont feel pressured to increase if youre already seeing good progress and feel good. For many of us, its a life journey, it certainly has become one for me and its been for all the better.

Good thoughts KootenayRider. The not having to use AIs is part of my goal here. Sofar at these ratios im having no estrogen sides so thats a big positive but its early days so will see how it plays out.