ED/libido, what else could I be missing?

Nixter said:
My Libido/ED gets worse with increased test levels. 90mg seems to be the "best" I've found so far.

I think I might try prop EOD and possibly go ever lower. Either way, the prop ester will make it easier to feel any dosing adjustments i make
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That is really weird. @storman beat me to it, but yea I'd suggest coming off cold turkey for a bit.

I feel like our brains adjust to steady esters and things sort of plateau. Prop might give you enough variance in levels to mimic the way natural testosterone undulates.
 
Nixter said:
My Libido/ED gets worse with increased test levels. 90mg seems to be the "best" I've found so far.

I think I might try prop EOD and possibly go ever lower. Either way, the prop ester will make it easier to feel any dosing adjustments i make
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Hey, you are not the only one. My sex drive gets less the more gear I run. I am pretty sure the extra estrogen is what does me in.

Try prop, even at 175 mg a week, which is 1 cc eod I am just fine.
 
I've been keeping an eye on this thread cuz It hits close Home. Don't want to question anybody's methods or solutions, but heck, That's what this forum is all about: to pitch in with information and help one another. I started self imposed TRT when I was 46, been sticking pretty much to the same ester, Test E with a couple of instances over the years that I switch to Cyp to see if it was different, but reverted back to Enanthate.
Started at 150 mgs/wk and been dialing up to 200mgs/wk which is my current dose as of now. So far so good, except High RBC and Hemoglobin which I've been resolving with Blood donations. I'm 58 and the low Libido/ED issues started I'd say a couple of years ago. Not sure if it's age related but ED issue has been covered with the wonderful help from Our sponsors and their goodies.
Libido tho has been in the tank for the last two years, but don't know If it really relates to my age, and it's supposed to be like that, but I used to be one horny MF that my wife hated me for it. Now, I'd rather go to sleep and Meh!
Decided to add Proviron to my TRT last month at 25mgs/day and seen a drastic change in terms of morning wood, Horny dreams and stuff that I used to experience without it a while back. A True Wingman compound and don't know If my E was outta whack or just age, thing is I'm getting that spark at looking and drooling over broads on the street like before.
Been on It for a month and a half and wish It was sustainable but unfortunately nothing is but happy with results.

Take it as it is Brother and wish you Best of luck in resolving your issues, like I said, We're all here to help and make your Own decision on the approach you'll finally take.

Cheers!
 
Well I tried spreading the 200mg across 5 injections a week. Worst the ED has been so far! Lol. I guess I don't like consistent higher T levels. After I'm done this run. I'm going to try 75mg prop/wk. EOD.

It will be interesting to see if the prop works better, and if I can increase the prop for a couple months without my current issues. Failing that, I will use primo on top of my low TRT for a bump, and hope I can hold onto my hair with RU58841
 
Switching testosterone esters might help. Trying propionate EOD could be a game changer. Also, check the HCG quality—sometimes that's the sneaky culprit behind these issues.
 
drop hcg, drop fina add b6 p5p (300mgs a day)most likely prolactin and other hormones are out of wake from the hcg and fina. 90 test is so low its point less. Also play around with pt-141 it will make anything rise up to the occasion
 
Nixter said:
Well I tried spreading the 200mg across 5 injections a week. Worst the ED has been so far! Lol. I guess I don't like consistent higher T levels. After I'm done this run. I'm going to try 75mg prop/wk. EOD.

It will be interesting to see if the prop works better, and if I can increase the prop for a couple months without my current issues. Failing that, I will use primo on top of my low TRT for a bump, and hope I can hold onto my hair with RU58841
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Ru 58841 is amazing it also can prevent hairloss from dht steroids even tren
 
Bigbear said:
Definitly the finasterid and your dht. I've heard thats a common side effect. I guess you said you tried without for 6 months and no change but maybe it has a longer effect on dht. Too bad hair and dht are linked. Maybe thats a sacrifice you have to make for thick hair.
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Man I would never sacrifice my dick for some hair, fuck it Ill just be bald.
 
Im kinda in the same boat, I think it’s more sleep related and mental.

Some weeks my libido is sky high and I’m ready to go rock solid .
Other weeks libido is down and erection quality is maybe 70% and feels weaker and doesn’t stay hard as long .
I have no explanations. I’m usually in the 250-400mg test range with proviron sprinkled in here and there. Daily 10 mg Cialis as well. I’m in the low 40s age group
 
Nixter said:
So I do "ok" on 90mg test per week, divided 2 or 3 times, (between 2 and 3 doesn't seem to make a difference). I also use 1000ui HCG divided twice.

Johnny seems to function "ok" here, a bit of Cialis helps. I've tried varrying doses of Adex to see if I can improve things but I don't see much difference between none and 2mg/wk, again, divided twice.

My last blood work at 90mg, 1000ui, and 1.5mg adex a week, had my overall T just above middle of the ref range, my free T in the upper quarter of the ref range and my E2 in the lower 3rd of the range. Not bad, but I still felt like I could be doing better in both ED and libido. This is still probably the best I've been at in 8 years of this. Adding that much AI was kind of test as I've always been scared to take too much and I wanted to see how that much would effect my bloods. I didn't feel any different from using none so I'll likely drop it.

For summer I decided to up things to 200mg a week. I get pretty good gains from just that small TRT level bump but it becomes more difficult to get and maintain erection

If it's not my E2, what else could be messing with my guy at these very modest doses?

At 200mg, divided twice, I do notice that things improve JUST before my next shot. So yeah, I do better on a lower dose but it would be nice to boost once in a while without losing the ability to get or maintain an erection. I just can't figure out what the issue might be, if not E2.

Yes there's tons of other down stream stuff but nothing's out of range. DHT is low but within range. I'm on finasteride but didn't notice a difference after 6 months without, and I was fine on it before TRT. SHBG is lowish but well within range. Prolactin is fine.
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Did you get your prolactin checked ? Assuming it’s fine is a mistake.

Me personally, when my estrogen raises due to leaving out my ai’s not only causes me gyno, but it inherently FOR ME causes my prolactin to raise also even without touching nandrolones. Ive confirmed myself with blood work. I’ve noticed Johnson struggles myself when my prolactin is raised.

Get your prolactin checked and give me the numbers. Or, the lazy way for experimentation, take 0.25mg prami Monday, Wednesday, Friday and give the old wife a call to the bedroom on the weekend. Don’t do much more than that or you’ll be sick in bed. Stick to pharma also, as UGL is incredibly hard to accurately dose 0.25mg.

  • High estradiol (estrogen) can stimulate prolactin secretion because estrogen increases the activity of the prolactin-producing cells in the pituitary gland.
  • In some people, this leads to a mild elevation in prolactin.
  • Very high prolactin levels are less commonly caused by estrogen alone and may warrant evaluation for other causes.
I would also lay back in the AI’s, what does 1.5mg a week of Arim get you in the range of estrogen wise ?

Blood work would be great. Let me know.
 
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