Deca vs NPP for growth

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lukas09

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I know there are a few differences between the two main being
Water retention
Injection frequency
Joint support
I used to run deca years ago was thinking of trying to run it in my upcoming winter bulker just can’t decide between the two want to gain some good muscle growth not sure if the water retention os worth it …don’t want to run to longer then 10 weeks max
Along side test and GH
What dose would you guys run it at with 500mg of test and 6iu of GH
 
i didn’t notice crazy water retention from NPP, i have never ran deca though so i’m not a good person to answer. i’ve always enjoyed the dry compounds myself since i don’t like the way my face looks when im retaining a shit ton of water. i think i ran 300npp, 400test, 200primo? maybe it was DHB instead of primo though its been a while. probably also had anavar in there at least PWO since i seem to always be on anavar lol
 
lukas09 said:
I know there are a few differences between the two main being
Water retention
Injection frequency
Joint support
I used to run deca years ago was thinking of trying to run it in my upcoming winter bulker just can’t decide between the two want to gain some good muscle growth not sure if the water retention os worth it …don’t want to run to longer then 10 weeks max
Along side test and GH
What dose would you guys run it at with 500mg of test and 6iu of GH
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250-300mg,

it’s really the same compound I’m honestly not sure why people find a big difference in water retention and other sides . My guess is maybe npp forces them to pin daily kinda resulting in less fluctuations where as with deca some people probably pin as low as 1x a week. Either or is good but if ur only running 10 weeks and not wanting to front load a bunch of liquid I’d just use npp so it saturates faster
 
Used 150 mg of both. 300 seems very reasonable, I just won't exceed 250 mg combined and I am on TRT.
Never noticed a difference other than injection frequency. They are the same compound with a different ester so I still fail to see how one is better than the other. Deca has a decent half life so twice a week injections should be fine.
All tests on healing injuries are done with Deca/Nandrolone and not NPP.
One of the best for bulk/strength or one of the best for me anyway considering I only use a few compounds.
 
CoolRick said:
3-400mg of NPP worked well for me even on its own so I'd have to agree with the guys above that 300mg is a good dose.

No significant water retention for me using nandrolone. When used solo it's less water retention than test in my experience.
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I think I saw in a thread that you used some HCG instead of test one time with deca or NPP can't remember which one. If you did how much HCG were you using? How long did you run it for?
 
strongmann said:
I think I saw in a thread that you used some HCG instead of test one time with deca or NPP can't remember which one. If you did how much HCG were you using? How long did you run it for?
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500iu EOD for both cycles.

My deca cycle was 8-9 weeks, my NPP cycle was 6 weeks. HCG was used from start to finish.
 
During a winter bulk, I am not sure why people are worried about water retention. The extra water gives your joints a cushion, and helps out lubrication of everything while you lift stupid heavy with insane intensity. You feel better as you abuse yourself towards a tendon tear, lol.

I only worry about water retention if I am leaning out for something, like a winter holiday or a specific month in the summer. I like to drink beer in the summer more, so no way I am not retaining some water weight as it fluctuates all over the place from my alcohol, salt intake, lol.
 
What did you guys find best in terms of test dosing : to npp dosing?
Would it be better to run a higher dose of test?
 
Ilovelearning said:
What did you guys find best in terms of test dosing : to npp dosing?
Would it be better to run a higher dose of test?
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I’ve seen people adamantly argue both directions. There’s a die hard group in favor of low, or even no test along with high nandrolone. Then there’s the people that say it’s stupid to not have test as the main driver.

In the end I went with the opinions of people I personally respected and did higher test lower nand and I liked it. 600 test 300 eq 250 deca.

But who knows, maybe I’d have preferred 100 test and 600 deca
 
JG91 said:
I’ve seen people adamantly argue both directions. There’s a die hard group in favor of low, or even no test along with high nandrolone. Then there’s the people that say it’s stupid to not have test as the main driver.

In the end I went with the opinions of people I personally respected and did higher test lower nand and I liked it. 600 test 300 eq 250 deca.

But who knows, maybe I’d have preferred 100 test and 600 deca
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thanks for you insight. My plan is to try both a higher and a lower ratio and go based off that.

How was your libido?
 
Ilovelearning said:
thanks for you insight. My plan is to try both a higher and a lower ratio and go based off that.

How was your libido?
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The problem with the question was the EQ tbh. I never crashed my estrogen before so I didn’t know what was happening to me lmao. But 8 weeks in I lost all interest in sex…. Frankly in life itself lmao.


Prior to that and then near the end once my estrogen was better my libido was fine. But not anything special. If I want libido I’d do test/tren/primo again.
 
Ilovelearning said:
thanks for you insight. My plan is to try both a higher and a lower ratio and go based off that.

How was your libido?
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If you want my 2 cents man, I would use Nandrolone as a third compound and run it low, next to higher Test, and a DHT of your choice or EQ, at a dose you find pairs well with said Test dose.
 
Brbpuppy said:
If you want my 2 cents man, I would use Nandrolone as a third compound and run it low, next to higher Test, and a DHT of your choice or EQ, at a dose you find pairs well with said Test dose.
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My bulk this year will be that. Same as last basically without eq. 600 ish test 300 mast then deciding between npp and deca. I won a lot of both and go back and fourth. Leaning toward npp just to try something new.
 
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