Cycle advice

DeeKnows said:
No arguement, its completely cool. Just a discussion and opinions.
First we will put anadrol away because its in a different league for gains and sides.
I say winstrol wins for muscle gains out of the 5 i said because in real life scenarios with others i know, and personally it will put on more muscle than the others. Eat slighly above maintence and mg for mg winstrol will grow you more muscle. I really do believe this wholey.
I dont find them to work synergistically either. People used to try 50 var and 50 winny all the time. Better with 100 of which is best for you every time.
Nowadays people like to go half mast with half primo. Usually because they like primo better but concentration wise and money wise its easier. When choosing the one you like best is the answer again.
Ive ran proviron, var and winny together for a month as an experiment and again a higher dose of one instead of all 3 was better.
Only time it makes sense is when you want more dht but u dont want to pump in more of a toxic one like winstrol but in reality you wanted more winstrol effects lol.
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very interesting. probably a personal response like you mentioned being different for everyone. with winstrol personally, all I got was achy joints. i’ve ran a ton of anavar and love it, probably a bit of personal bias on my part. i have a 12 week cycle planned and have some winstrol tabs on hand, maybe i’ll throw them in at some point just to give it another try, plan was var + proviron last 6 weeks.
 
Trenbolone&Cheese said:
very interesting. probably a personal response like you mentioned being different for everyone. with winstrol personally, all I got was achy joints. i’ve ran a ton of anavar and love it, probably a bit of personal bias on my part. i have a 12 week cycle planned and have some winstrol tabs on hand, maybe i’ll throw them in at some point just to give it another try, plan was var + proviron last 6 weeks.
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I always loved var too. Winstrol makes me get injuries at about the 4 week mark so im done with it now. Var is great but proviron is non toxic. As we age the cleaner compounds start to look most attractive usually.
 
DeeKnows said:
I always loved var too. Winstrol makes me get injuries at about the 4 week mark so im done with it now. Var is great but proviron is non toxic. As we age the cleaner compounds start to look most attractive usually.
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i tend to run proviron as a supporting compound for the decreased SHBG. not sure i really “feel” it, but it feels like a no brainer to run to me since it’s so safe and not crazy expensive.
 
BanditNOLIMIT said:
Trenbolone&Cheese said:
what are you basing winstrol off of to be “best for hypertrophy” ? not saying you’re wrong, just want to know your thinking.

im only trying to understand what you’re saying better. are you speaking on different types of anabolic pathways (DHTs, 19 Nors, Testosterone + derivatives) as to why stacking 2 DHTs together are of no benefit compared to a higher dose of 1?
considering each of them do different things (primo for hypertrophy + anadrol for strength concurrently as an example,) i think they’re of benefit to run together in almost a synergistic way even.

let me be clear, not trying to argue, just trying to really understand your perspective for my own knowledge bank.
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BanditNOLIMIT said:
Agreed.

In certain context it could make sense to use both but it sounds like you just want to increase your cycle. If that’s the case you’re gonna get a lot more out of increasing your testosterone dose or adding something like EQ or deca
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DeeKnows said:
No arguement, its completely cool. Just a discussion and opinions.
First we will put anadrol away because its in a different league for gains and sides.
I say winstrol wins for muscle gains out of the 5 i said because in real life scenarios with others i know, and personally it will put on more muscle than the others. Eat slighly above maintence and mg for mg winstrol will grow you more muscle. I really do believe this wholey.
I dont find them to work synergistically either. People used to try 50 var and 50 winny all the time. Better with 100 of which is best for you every time.
Nowadays people like to go half mast with half primo. Usually because they like primo better but concentration wise and money wise its easier. When choosing the one you like best is the answer again.
Ive ran proviron, var and winny together for a month as an experiment and again a higher dose of one instead of all 3 was better.
Only time it makes sense is when you want more dht but u dont want to pump in more of a toxic one like winstrol but in reality you wanted more winstrol effects lol.
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Hey guys so I think I’ve settled on what I wanna do.
Here it is. Test e/ 500mg mast p 300 npp 300
Weekly, run that for 12/ 14 weeks.
I still have my anavar going until the mast and npp come in. Should I cut it out entirely or lower the dose? I’m running 60mg daily rn been on it for almost 3 weeks now was thinking of running it for 6.
Let me know if this is a good cycle or if I’m an idiot 😂 and any tweaks you would recommend. I have a ai on hand and will take p5p for managing prolactin and order caber if it becomes more of an issue. Cheers.
 
Vitko said:
Hey guys so I think I’ve settled on what I wanna do.
Here it is. Test e/ 500mg mast p 300 npp 300
Weekly, run that for 12/ 14 weeks.
I still have my anavar going until the mast and npp come in. Should I cut it out entirely or lower the dose? I’m running 60mg daily rn been on it for almost 3 weeks now was thinking of running it for 6.
Let me know if this is a good cycle or if I’m an idiot 😂 and any tweaks you would recommend. I have a ai on hand and will take p5p for managing prolactin and order caber if it becomes more of an issue. Cheers.
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@Trenbolone&Cheese
 
Vitko said:
Hey guys so I think I’ve settled on what I wanna do.
Here it is. Test e/ 500mg mast p 300 npp 300
Weekly, run that for 12/ 14 weeks.
I still have my anavar going until the mast and npp come in. Should I cut it out entirely or lower the dose? I’m running 60mg daily rn been on it for almost 3 weeks now was thinking of running it for 6.
Let me know if this is a good cycle or if I’m an idiot 😂 and any tweaks you would recommend. I have a ai on hand and will take p5p for managing prolactin and order caber if it becomes more of an issue. Cheers.
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Looks good to me. I’d keep the anavar in if you’re already using it
 
Vitko said:
Hey guys so I think I’ve settled on what I wanna do.
Here it is. Test e/ 500mg mast p 300 npp 300
Weekly, run that for 12/ 14 weeks.
I still have my anavar going until the mast and npp come in. Should I cut it out entirely or lower the dose? I’m running 60mg daily rn been on it for almost 3 weeks now was thinking of running it for 6.
Let me know if this is a good cycle or if I’m an idiot 😂 and any tweaks you would recommend. I have a ai on hand and will take p5p for managing prolactin and order caber if it becomes more of an issue. Cheers.
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maybe i missed it, but i’m unaware of your cycle history, current stats (height, weight. bf%,) and what goal you want to get out of your next blast. i don’t like running a blast just to say im blasting above TRT+, i like a clear, concise goal such as “mass phase” or “fat loss phase.”

on a cycle structure basis though, i like it. i’d keep on the Var since you’re already running it, but for me i prefer to bring orals in later when my body is used to my injectables. for me it gives the cycle an “extra breath of air” feeling at the end.
 
Cycle looks good. Id use the var at the end too at 30 for last 6 weeks. Since you already have it and wanna use it. Also because that mast dose isnt super high either.
Like tren n cheese said we dont the doses your used to taking or your goals but on this proposed cycle you could bulk or cut or maingain just fine anyway. Its well above trt and most cuise doses so im sure you will enjoy it. As long as its a good brand ugl, enjoy.
 
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