This thread has turned full stupid.
While some of the things 240 is saying are true. Like water is a much better growing medium for bacteria than oi.
The argument from a risk mitigation standpoint if far from full scope and not exactly a poibt that one person can hang their hat on entirely.
In many respects, it's difficult to try to raise risk mitigation arguments in a place where people source unknown illegal drugs from China and inject them in their bodies.
Saying that, trying to lower any potential risks one has control over is generally a smart move. However looking at it from the entirety of the landscape, the overall mitigation factor would be quite negligible.
I think the argument mostly remains - if seeking underground or illegal products from anyone - do as much research as possible, trust most in long established brands with excellent track records over time.
So perhaps purchasing super good A+#1 brand bac water off of Temu for 3 dollars may not be the best idea. While purchasing from a long established well known Peptide company with a good history is a much safer option.
Purchasing from a pharmaceutical company as directly or pharmacy as possible probably comes with the least risk.
But that is rarely if not always an available option due to multiple factors but most being cost and availability.
Purchasing "pharm" from grey or black market vendors come with risks as well as we all know that handling or fake products can be an issue. Now, one may argue - who fakes bac water? Not long ago, I would have no doubt said that. Now though, well....these are much different times.
Bac water is incredibly easy to make and doesn't require much sophistication. So again, there's certainly an argument that the safety alarm may be sounding off a little loudly here. Larger scale production obviously comes with increased risk....but even a complete end-user could make a good amount with some sterile water and vessels, good aseptic tecnique and some benzyl alcohol.
Again it comes down to being informed, assessing the known risk and making the appropriate informed choise for yourself
Absolutes here are an incredible fallacy.
Lastly, the garbage about being on forums and competing for a long time mean absolutely zero. Its an attempting powerplay which is the ultimate equivalency to little dick syndrome. Its stupid.
I've been around for a minute or two now. And I've learned some things along the way. But I don't know everything and there's plenty of things guys that have been around a lot less time than me know far more about.
Theres been guys around much longer than me as well.....and guess what....they're still the tools and fools they were over 20 years ago. Point is cut the power play talk....it holds no water.
You feel strongly about this obviously. Dig in. Thats OK. Guys are going to ask and pry and prod...and probably disagree.....its all part of the purpose.
Sometimes the layers around such discussions are quite nuanced and it's difficult to separate a true safety issue based on what someone is alleging vs. something else. Thats a relevant piece here perhaps but would take away from the topic at hand.
Lastly, this poibt about testides and you wild accusations concerning tge credibility of the forum.
Pinch your fucking lips for a moment.
On what planet would a forum ever see a thread like yours come up and just make a knee jerk decision based on information that has been posted with no true facts established (simply your words) without looking into the matter, speaking to both parties and make an informed decision based on facts.....not opinion.
So before you get too sassy and openly questioning the credibility of the forum...shut your mouth. You have put the cart far before the horse here and those actions negatively impact your credibility here far more than the forum.
Have you spoken to admin and showed them everything you have? I have seen zero about this other than a recent thread that was started in the forum.
What has this testides company provided you?
Has testides been able to tell their part of the story?
An investigation has to be completed. No one is just going to take your word....no matter how big of a deal you think you are.
So calm the shit. Approach admin like you want to help solve a problem....not be a complete cunt. And help work through it until objective findings based on fact can be established.
Then decisions are made.
This should be done behind the scenes where work can get done. I know guys like the idea of playing it it live in the forum but that never works. Too much emotion and nonsense to ever get to the bottom of something.
Right now....your approach makes you look like an idiot.
And ps. For argument sake....how exactly does testides results matching Janoshik results prove anything. In a way....maybe that could be good for jano....but thats another topic.
Many assumptions being made there that again - have never been proven.
Its not like Janoshik is an accredited lab with long standing records of independent third party auditing giving credibility to the lab and its procedures, equipment and processes....and therefore its results.
Everyone has just bought in to the idea that this outfit is some type of gold standard.....but know one knows why.
And that is completely absurd and ridiculous. But no one every questions that....lol.
Read this for what it is. Its not an attack on you.... its an attempt to provide some perspective to the central issue....but also to address your silly behavior demonstrated towards both the forum and its members.
Don't like that? Be better.
