.

But then I pretty much killed canmass because of that approach with olympic.... so what the fuck do I know.... well other than many of you are now here and not there.

Maybe says something
 
Ok going to the garage to run my engine for a while.

This is pointless.

@Riverj3 Take the advice or don’t. Guys are trying to help you understand what can happen, will it happen I hope not for your sake, but it does. We were all invincible when we were in our twenties, at some point you have to pay the piper.
 
A little late to the discussion....

BUT here we go.

SOME people have had issues from Innos Test E
Probably the same number that have issues with Test e in General.

I ordered at AROUND the same time as you.
Smooth as butter.
SAME batch, my brother had nasty PIP and lumps from the test E.
We even pinned the same oil from the same Vial a few times to seewhat's up.
Nasty PIP for him.
Smooth and felt great for me.

He contacted his rep
Rep advised he switch to Cyp.

He felt amazing after that, zero PIP all good
(He was an AAS virgin when he started on Test E)
Try a few different esters and products.

Now
For why you're wrong.
Who the hell cares about bottoming out Testosterone, so long as your making gains (IMHO)
If that was the only factor, I would say... have fun with oral only runs.

Unfortunately, that is not the problem
The problem is estrogen.

Without sufficient Test in your system, you will no longer aromatise to estrogen. (Typically at a 10 :1 for the average male)
Without ESTROGEN (Fuck testosterone, who cares)
Your immune system will absolutly plummet.
This means you are significantly more susceptible to Virus' infections, diseases etc etc.

Your joints will dry out, leaving you susceptible to Injury as well.

I could also get into larger issues that stem from estrogen in relation to your endocrine system... but ifyou dont listen to the previous 2 points, you wont listen to thechemical science either, so I wont waste my time.

I'm a big believer in short 6 week oral focused blasts at TRT levels of test
Just run around 100mg with your oral of choice and watch those gains!

A very good friend does this with Adrol or Dbol.
He recovers unbelievably fast... then hes back on blast and making gains (Obviously confirms hes omay with bloods... Lipods have been is largest limiting factor)

Take the advice of the members of this board, they are fantastic guys who have helped me a lot.

Or not
But at least this thread will show other newbies what's up.
 
Come say it to my face ? Red deer Alberta where do ya wanna meet lol let's see if I'm a little twerp

Yes, I would. I knew the little twerp would bug you, because... I went to school to study people. I may consider giving you my address and the flight fare to TO and connections to my cave in Barrie. That is Ontario by the way.
You are a little twerp. In attitude and size. Man, I have 30 lbs on you. That and a sense of humour that will have you rolling on the floor.
 
I do have pics. It is an old fart in a toque. An old grey beard dude with a cute smile my poodles love. You may grow attached to it as well. Actually, it is you're, not "your". Argue? I thought we were developing a relationship of combat as per the formalized study of Pekiti-Tirsia Kali. Does that mean you won't respect me in the morning?
I have so destroyed my keyboard I must head off and manicure my nails and coiffe my hair.
 
Ok going to the garage to run my engine for a while.

This is pointless.

@Riverj3 Take the advice or don’t. Guys are trying to help you understand what can happen, will it happen I hope not for your sake, but it does. We were all invincible when we were in our twenties, at some point you have to pay the piper.
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