Jello for joints thread

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Heres a couple articles on gelatin, unfortunately the links are now broken, this is not my info

Jello Anyone?

As strange as it might seem, the main ingredient (gelatin) in good old Jello might be just what the doctor ordered for painful joints. Gelatin has been market world wide for many years as a food and as a supplement.


Gelatin is made from animal collagen. In all animals-including man- collagen is an essential structural protein that forms an important part of bones, tendons, and connective tissues. It is a tough insoluble protein that is essential for keeping the many cells and tissues of the body together.


Gelatin contains an exceptionally high content of two amino acids which play an important part in collagen formation, namely proline and glycine.

In fact, it takes 43 grams of dried egg whites or 35 grams of dried non fat milk or 89 grams of lean beef to equal the amount of proline in just 10 grams of hydrolyzed gelatin.

Though the body can form these two amino acids on its own, it has been suggested that under certain conditions the rate of synthesis may be insufficient to provide essential body requirements and degradation can exceed synthetic processes (i.e. there is a steady loss of body collagen).


The intake of hydrolyzed gelatin appears to be an alternative route to getting chondrocytes (cartilage producing cells) and osteoblasts (bone forming cells) of the body sufficient amounts of these important amino acids for making structural proteins.

Although chondrocytes are critical for collagen formation, their number is limited and their ability to form this much needed protein is influenced by heredity, age, physical activity (too little or too much), injury, and availability of nutrients.


Although bone metabolism is quite complex and not fully understood, there is a growing number of studies showing the intake of just ten grams per day of hydrolyzed gelatin is effective in greatly reducing pain, improving mobility and overall bone/cartilage health.


Several randomized, double-blinded, crossover trials have shown improvements in symptoms related to joint pain (Adem et. al. Therapiewoche, 1991). The people at Knox (the Jello people) have made a product specifically for bone health and joints called NutraJoint.


It contains hydrolyzed gelatin, calcium , and vitamin C. Calcium is of obvious importance to bone health and vitamin C is an essential and limiting nutrient for connective tissue formation. NutraJoint is cheap, has no side effects, and tastes good.


I recommend one packet mixed with OJ with breakfast for people suffering from joint pain.
 
If you don't eat Jell-O, you probably eat ice cream and a variety of other foods containing gelatin. On a good, hot summer day, most everyone enjoys a big, hearty scoop of creamy vanilla or savory chocolate ice cream. While consuming this tasty treat you probably do not even suspect that the ice cream you are eating contains gelatin, the main ingredient in Jell-O. (Jell-O is a brand name that has become synonymous with gelatin.)


Made from pork skins, cattle bones and hides, gelatin is used in a variety of everyday products ranging from gummy bears to throat lozenges, low-calorie margarine, jams and jellies, ice cream and marshmallows. Aside from being a food additive, gelatin is also found in numerous cosmetics such as shampoo and skin creams. Gelatin is additionally utilized in bacteriology as a culture medium, in medicine as a coating for capsules, pills, and some surgical dressings, and even in photography in the preparation of film and paper. Furthermore, sheets of dyed gelatin are used in stage lighting as an inexpensive glass substitute; in agriculture, gelatin is employed as an ingredient of fertilizers, animal feeds, and sprays. Ever noticed people on television that seem to have voluptuous lips and no wrinkles on their faces despite their age? According to the plasticesurgery.org website, injectable collagen is used in cosmetic surgery, mainly to enhance the skin’s texture, and add fullness to the lips and cheeks to produce a younger looking appearance.


As a constituent of foods, gelatin is highly nutritious and easily digested and absorbed. It is obtained by boiling animal bones and connective tissue containing collagen in water or dilute acid. It is colorless, transparent, brittle, odorless, and tasteless in a purified form. Gelatin dissolves in hot water and forms a gel or jelly upon cooling. When placed in cold water, gelatin takes up five to ten times its own weight and swells to an elastic, transparent mass.


You may have noticed the jelly-type material in the pot after your mother cooked a roast. Any idea what it is? As a matter of fact, it is gelatin. Made the same way, gelatin is collected in a similar process by manufacturers and purified for Jell-O and hundreds of other products.
 
A long time ago when my man and I were leaning out, I was making sugar free jello all the time as a treat. We ate so much jello in the past that we are completely sick of it now. i think that much sugar free product is probably really bad for you, but it was a phase. I think gelatin is really good for you, I make dog food for my dog and I feed him gelatin that i make from animal bones (mainly chicken and turkey). I was adding gelatin to my protein shakes at one time as well. You can buy bovine gelatin and add it to shakes its kindof tasteless it just makes the shake thicker. I think I will get back on that after reading your thread. I tend to forget a few things here and there and its nice to see posts like this to remind me of things i can add to my diet. thanks :)
 
SonOfOdin said:
It's a jelly made from the head flesh of pigs, cows ect. Set in aspic most of the time!
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the first thing that came to my mind was dick cheese, i thought it was some kindof joke lol ... of course that would be the first thing a girl would think of right lol.
 
Princess_Penguin said:
the first thing that came to my mind was dick cheese, i thought it was some kindof joke lol ... of course that would be the first thing a girl would think of right lol.
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Lol, when someone knew starts at work, and they ask what head cheese is, I tell them it’s the sweaty shit under the foreskin, we collect it and mix it with meat. Then I force them to try a sample, lol. By then they know I was lying, but are still grossed out

It’s like Jell-O with meat in it. Kinda tastes like chicken soup a bit.
 
anyone know what's better between collagen and gelatin for joints?
i keep hearing about it collagen these days
 
I knew there was reason I loved my non organic veggies! Packed full of gelatin who woulda thought!
 
Rocky said:
anyone know what's better between collagen and gelatin for joints?
i keep hearing about it collagen these days
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From what I have read is Gelatin is the refined version of collagen.
Now if I was using it to heal an injury, I’d use collagen. I bet there is different purifies or qualities. I know the liquid one my wife uses helps her knee, but the pill version we bought didn’t.
 
Rocky said:
anyone know what's better between collagen and gelatin for joints?
i keep hearing about it collagen these days
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Thats why I started this thread, hopefully someone has some experience in this.
From what I understand most collagen powder would be type1 and type 3 collagen and the smaller amount pill would be type 2 measured in mg.

Type 1 is bones, skin, hair, nails and pretty lips
Type 2 is cartlidge
Type 3 is intestines, and guts
Im gonna leave tendons out because I dont know if they are type 1 or 2.

Thats my short version and all I really know...lol

Im starting an experiment of my own taking type 2 collagen only. Which would be the pills that @Sorbate speaks of.. so im not too confident...lol
 
Cheapshot said:
Thats why I started this thread, hopefully someone has some experience in this.
From what I understand most collagen powder would be type1 and type 3 collagen and the smaller amount pill would be type 2 measured in mg.

Type 1 is bones, skin, hair, nails and pretty lips
Type 2 is cartlidge
Type 3 is intestines, and guts
Im gonna leave tendons out because I dont know if they are type 1 or 2.

Thats my short version and all I really know...lol

Im starting an experiment of my own taking type 2 collagen only. Which would be the pills that @Sorbate speaks of.. so im not too confident...lol
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I read this when I heard about collagen because I trust layne Norton’s opinion on the supplement industry
I was actually surprised because he didn’t just say it was a scam like a lot of the supplements he reviews

Here’s the link, https://www.biolayne.com/articles/s...n-supplementation-considerations-and-caveats/

to sum it up, he says there’s no muscle building benefit but there could be benefits to the skin and joints

And that taking it couldn’t hurt. I’ll see how much it is at Costco and see if it’s worth taking, if it isn’t too much, I might start taking it

Sorbate said:
From what I have read is Gelatin is the refined version of collagen.
Now if I was using it to heal an injury, I’d use collagen. I bet there is different purifies or qualities. I know the liquid one my wife uses helps her knee, but the pill version we bought didn’t.
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Thanks for the heads up, I guess I’ll avoid taking the pills
 
Rocky said:
I read this when I heard about collagen because I trust layne Norton’s opinion on the supplement industry
I was actually surprised because he didn’t just say it was a scam like a lot of the supplements he reviews

Here’s the link, https://www.biolayne.com/articles/s...n-supplementation-considerations-and-caveats/

to sum it up, he says there’s no muscle building benefit but there could be benefits to the skin and joints

And that taking it couldn’t hurt. I’ll see how much it is at Costco and see if it’s worth taking, if it isn’t too much, I might start taking it



Thanks for the heads up, I guess I’ll avoid taking the pills
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Good stuff from Layne. Made me feel like I must be as smart as him because I came to the same muddled inconclusive conclusions :). Raised the "does consuming it really mean it will work vs just having the amino's needed to synthesize it in another thread where Cheapshot and I were discussing it. I'm only kidding about being as smart as him as he may be the worlds leading authority on all things protein related but it is nice to see that even he had a hard time getting to the bottom of all this.

Myself I decided to just try it and see what I could feel. I couldn't feel any difference (so far) but this isn't the kind of thing that is necessarily going to be blatantly obvious.

I sure wish I had seen that before spending the mostly useless time on my own trying to get to the bottom of this. Thanks Rocky
 
gondar1 said:
Good stuff from Layne. Made me feel like I must be as smart as him because I came to the same muddled inconclusive conclusions :). Raised the "does consuming it really mean it will work vs just having the amino's needed to synthesize it in another thread where Cheapshot and I were discussing it. I'm only kidding about being as smart as him as he may be the worlds leading authority on all things protein related but it is nice to see that even he had a hard time getting to the bottom of all this.

Myself I decided to just try it and see what I could feel. I couldn't feel any difference (so far) but this isn't the kind of thing that is necessarily going to be blatantly obvious.

I sure wish I had seen that before spending the mostly useless time on my own trying to get to the bottom of this. Thanks Rocky
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I go to layne for every new supplement that comes out, he seems to have an unbiased opinion on everything and only goes by scientific studies
I’m glad he’s around
 
Rocky said:
I read this when I heard about collagen because I trust layne Norton’s opinion on the supplement industry
I was actually surprised because he didn’t just say it was a scam like a lot of the supplements he reviews

Here’s the link, https://www.biolayne.com/articles/s...n-supplementation-considerations-and-caveats/

to sum it up, he says there’s no muscle building benefit but there could be benefits to the skin and joints

And that taking it couldn’t hurt. I’ll see how much it is at Costco and see if it’s worth taking, if it isn’t too much, I might start taking it



Thanks for the heads up, I guess I’ll avoid taking the pills
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If it was t such a pain in the ass to resize picture to post, I’d post the pic of the stuff that worked for my wife, lol. Anyone know an easy way to reduce picture size on an iPad?
 
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