Gyno correction help

Cumminstech2

Cumminstech2

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I was doing 500mg test 300mg deca per week and was going to wait till week 3 to start AI. Just before week 3 came my nipples started feeling a bit sensitive, so I started 20mg Nolvadex and .25mg arimidex ed. Did that for a week and after a week I can feel a small hard little lump behind my left nipple. Kept taking the Nolvadex and arimidex for another week to get to where I’m at now. The lump is still there and nipples are still a little sensitive. Can my nolva/arimidex be bad, or am I doing something wrong? How do I correct this? Really don’t wanna develop gyno... thanks
 
Cumminstech2 said:
I was doing 500mg test 300mg deca per week and was going to wait till week 3 to start AI. Just before week 3 came my nipples started feeling a bit sensitive, so I started 20mg Nolvadex and .25mg arimidex ed. Did that for a week and after a week I can feel a small hard little lump behind my left nipple. Kept taking the Nolvadex and arimidex for another week to get to where I’m at now. The lump is still there and nipples are still a little sensitive. Can my nolva/arimidex be bad, or am I doing something wrong? How do I correct this? Really don’t wanna develop gyno... thanks
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Did the nipple sensitivity go down?
 
Rocky said:
Did the nipple sensitivity go down?
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A little bit but they are still a little touchier than normal. what worries me is that I started the nolvadex before I felt a ball, and took it for a week before the ball developed.
 
Right side was feeling a little sensitive, just checked and I have a little ball forming on that side now too ...
 
DerekD said:
Why didn’t you take arimedix during your cycle?
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I do take it, just not right off the bat. I usually wait till week 2 or 3 to start unless sides come first. It takes time for the test to convert to estrogen, so if I start arimidex right away then I’m reducing estrogen that isn’t even there yet.
 
Cumminstech2 said:
I do take it, just not right off the bat. I usually wait till week 2 or 3 to start unless sides come first. It takes time for the test to convert to estrogen, so if I start arimidex right away then I’m reducing estrogen that isn’t even there yet.
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I’m aware how it works. Your post didn’t specifically say which type of test your taking. Based on this response I’m assuming you’re taking a longer acting form.

this is why pre, during and post bloods are crucial. Absolutely zero reason why you wait for sides of elevated estrogen or prolactin before taking something.

I also noticed you’re taking deca without caber or any prolactin control. I won’t go into the science why this could also be your issue but you may want to do more homework. Not trying to come off as an ass but this type of shit can be avoided by being educated and informed.
 
DerekD said:
I’m aware how it works. Your post didn’t specifically say which type of test your taking. Based on this response I’m assuming you’re taking a longer acting form.

this is why pre, during and post bloods are crucial. Absolutely zero reason why you wait for sides of elevated estrogen or prolactin before taking something.

I also noticed you’re taking deca without caber or any prolactin control. I won’t go into the science why this could also be your issue but you may want to do more homework. Not trying to come off as an ass but this type of shit can be avoided by being educated and informed.
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I always wait before taking AI,

Get bloods on week 3 and adjust accordingly.
The amount of guys I've seen tank their estro by starting an AI protocol....wow.

As for stuff like Caber, I dont touch the stuff.
Ever. (I also dont run AI)

I dont play with my dopamine receptors, not a good plan.

Currently running NPP with my stack, so long as estro is in control, Prolactin control is unnecessary.

I'll ask Sworder if I can post his sticky from Meso, here on CB, in regards to Prolactin control with Tren/Deca... basically it's a myth.

prolactin will only become an issue with elevated estro.

EDIT
Also, Caber, Prami etc, crushes IGF1, there for killing gains.
They are prescribed for acromegaly, to lower GH production.
This is NOT beneficial for bodybuilders.
 
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DerekD said:
I’m aware how it works. Your post didn’t specifically say which type of test your taking. Based on this response I’m assuming you’re taking a longer acting form.

this is why pre, during and post bloods are crucial. Absolutely zero reason why you wait for sides of elevated estrogen or prolactin before taking something.

I also noticed you’re taking deca without caber or any prolactin control. I won’t go into the science why this could also be your issue but you may want to do more homework. Not trying to come off as an ass but this type of shit can be avoided by being educated and informed.
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I have prami on hand as a just incase, was not going to take a “preventative dose” for the reasons silent lemon listed above... which is why I didn’t list it..
 
Cumminstech2 said:
I have prami on hand as a just incase, was not going to take a “preventative dose” for the reasons silent lemon listed above... which is why I didn’t list it..
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That is smart.
Because shit happens lol.

Honestly, if a single mistake is made on AI dosage, it could lead to Prolactin and all the other fun side effects associated.

Prami is great for one purpose in my opinion.
Smashing that Prolactin down and getting on with your cycle, while tailoring AI dosage.

I've had to use Caber once (literally one pill) while doing a Deca run a few years back (Have switched to NPP since, I like the shorter ester) Bloods confirmed high Prolactin, bloods confirmed the Caber did its job, and confirmed Adex dosage.

After that, the cycle was great, once AI was on point.. I had no more Prolactin issues.

If I can say one thing in the AAS community, its DO NOT take AI, or Prolactin drugs without Bloods or sides.
Preventive will just lead to crashing.

In your situation...
Look into Evista like @Gforce
Also Ralox. (my personal preference, but Gforce knows his shit and I trust him)

Prolactin induced Gyno is a MYTH.
Lactation and sexual sides.. sure.

But treat your Deca induced Gyno the same as you would any other flare up.

Smash the Ralox (or Evista, but I dont know anything about it, lack of experience)

Once your E is in control, make sure you stop the Prami.
If you are jumping on Ralox AND still running Prami, you will absolutly takyour IGF1.
SERMs are well k own for that. (I run SERM all cycle with GH, I run Zero AI and I actually prefer my estrogen to be slightly ABOVE the high limit)

Good luck brother
 
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silentlemon1011 said:
I always wait before taking AI,

Get bloods on week 3 and adjust accordingly.
The amount of guys I've seen tank their estro by starting an AI protocol....wow.

As for stuff like Caber, I dont touch the stuff.
Ever. (I also dont run AI)

I dont play with my dopamine receptors, not a good plan.

Currently running NPP with my stack, so long as estro is in control, Prolactin control is unnecessary.

I'll ask Sworder if I can post his sticky from Meso, here on CB, in regards to Prolactin control with Tren/Deca... basically it's a myth.

prolactin will only become an issue with elevated estro.

EDIT
Also, Caber, Prami etc, crushes IGF1, there for killing gains.
They are prescribed for acromegaly, to lower GH production.
This is NOT beneficial for bodybuilders.
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I believe different until someone provides me with a legit study. So with this being said, if you were to run tren, you wouldn’t control prolactin?
 
DerekD said:
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I believe different until someone provides me with a legit study. So with this being said, if you were to run tren, you wouldn’t control prolactin?
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No,
No Prolactin Control.
I dont even keep Prolactin drugs on standby anymore..

As for studies,
There is no study on Prolactin control with 19nors.

There is however, a plethora of information on HOW prolactin is produced within the human body.

Prolactin only becomes an issue when Estrogen is higher than acceptable levels.

Prolactin will increase at the same rate (percentage wise) as estradiol.
Therefore, basic bio chem tells us that control of estrogen (being the precursor of Prolactin) is the only neccessary step.

I dont run tren, but NPP is a fucking staple for me lol.
I like to stay dry while running NPP as well, is that impossible as well?
Nope,
but a 19Nor is a 19nor

I cant provide a study on Tren Prolactinwithin the body, it doesnt exist.

I can however, restate my previous assertion. Read Sworders Sticky on Meso, it contains a whole whack of medical evidence and studies on Prolactin.

He also runs high Tren with zero Caber or Prami etc.

Stuffing our facing with Dopamine agonists is 100% bro science, those drugs have their place within our repertoire, as do AIs.
Neither of which I touch (I keep AI on hand in case i get over excited with my dosages on week 10 of my cycle lol)
 
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