BCP 157 and TB 500 question

animal-inside

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I'm going to be grabbing some BCP 157 soon. I have used it twice. First time was 500mg a day with TB500 at 500mg a day... Second time I just used straight BCP 157 at 1000mg a day.. I feel I got much better results from 1000mg BCP compared to the 500 and 500...

I'm reading TB 500 doesn't need to be used everyday to be effective.. So although I'm going to be using 1000mg of BCP 157 this go around, would it be worth grabbing some TB 500 and using it twice a week or three times a week? I'm asking because I'm curious if TB 500 would work better at 1000mg 3x a week then when I used it 500mg ed..

Hopefully I'm explaining myself correctly.

I'm trying to deal with tendon tears and tendonitis
 
I'm going to be grabbing some BCP 157 soon. I have used it twice. First time was 500mg a day with TB500 at 500mg a day... Second time I just used straight BCP 157 at 1000mg a day.. I feel I got much better results from 1000mg BCP compared to the 500 and 500...

I'm reading TB 500 doesn't need to be used everyday to be effective.. So although I'm going to be using 1000mg of BCP 157 this go around, would it be worth grabbing some TB 500 and using it twice a week or three times a week? I'm asking because I'm curious if TB 500 would work better at 1000mg 3x a week then when I used it 500mg ed..

Hopefully I'm explaining myself correctly.

I'm trying to deal with tendon tears and tendonitis
I ran it at 1000 per day for both and had good results. TB500 is supposed to be good for healing but also inflammation which would be helpful for tendinitis.
 
I'm going to be grabbing some BCP 157 soon. I have used it twice. First time was 500mg a day with TB500 at 500mg a day... Second time I just used straight BCP 157 at 1000mg a day.. I feel I got much better results from 1000mg BCP compared to the 500 and 500...

I'm reading TB 500 doesn't need to be used everyday to be effective.. So although I'm going to be using 1000mg of BCP 157 this go around, would it be worth grabbing some TB 500 and using it twice a week or three times a week? I'm asking because I'm curious if TB 500 would work better at 1000mg 3x a week then when I used it 500mg ed..

Hopefully I'm explaining myself correctly.

I'm trying to deal with tendon tears and tendonitis
Morning @animal-inside - BPC157 works better for tendon/ligament tears than muscular issue (opinion based on studies and personal experience). Hence, this is on your side. If I was you I would still use both.
You are a big guy and one of the reasons I suspect people state it didn't work is they did not take enough or long enough. It takes a while to work (weeks, and you still need to rehab/take a break or significantly reduce the stress on the tendons to give them time to heal).
I am believe you are close to 300 lbs if I recall correct so I am not as big as you. I take a minimum of 1 mg/1000 mcg's of BPC157 per day. The old / standard protocol was 250 mcg's twice a day and I never found this was enough.
I also never found a difference between once or twice a day applications. I have used as much as 2 mg a day of BPC157.
Again opinion - do not buy a mix, buy vials separately but you can mix them in the same insulin syringe when being drawn for application.
Depends who you ask but many say TB500 twice or three times a week is fine. It has a very short half life but binds to actin and helps tissue repair (very basic explanation). Even with the short half life, it is reported to have systemic presence and activity for days but all I can find is anecdotal reports.
For the sake of a steady amount in the system and best chances of healing quicker, I would inject it daily in the same insulin syringe as the BPC157. 1 mg per day, but I would reduce this amount as you get better but I would keep the BPC157 at the 1 mg longer. Again, opinion and many may disagree.

I do not care what anyone says regarding systemic vs. injecting as close to the injury as possible, based on experience BPC157 works much better healing tendons when injected as close to the injury as possible. Yes, it is systemic in nature as it helps other injuries and I won't go on about the real experiences healing one side at a time and how much better it works when injected as close as possible vs. in your mid section for example.
TB500 had no difference whatsoever no matter where I injected it and is reputed to be completely systemic which I agree with. Hence if it is a shoulder ligament then injecting both into your shoulder will remove any chances of it not working as well systemically. Why take the chance? If systemic you can inject it anywhere. If one works better closer to the tendon/ligament inject it as close as possible.

If you are going to give this a fair trial, do it for at least 2 months, and don't expect great results if you plan to inject it and keep hammering heavy weights. No one likes benching 10 lb. DB's but I have injured myself bad enough to use the peptides, go to physio/alternative healing practitioners/and drop my weight down to next to nothing. I refer to it as active healing. Stretching and going through the motions adding another 5 lbs to each exercise every time I go through my workouts. What is a few months in decades of lifting weights? You will be right back to where you were before in no time, plus you give yourself a chance to deload/heal other issues that may be creeping up you are not aware of yet.

This is all opinion based from reading, talking to multiple members and IRL power lifters. I am not saying this is correct, but I know what works best for me and a few other IRL guys who can lift much more than I can.
I recall you had a bad chest muscle tear as well and then went camping - maybe 2-4 years ago? Hopefully, any lingering issues this will help as well.
If I had to pick one healing peptide it would be BPC157, but if I was eager to hasten my recovery time - I would take the two and add in KPV too at 500 mcg per day.

Best of luck.
 
I'm going to be grabbing some BCP 157 soon. I have used it twice. First time was 500mg a day with TB500 at 500mg a day... Second time I just used straight BCP 157 at 1000mg a day.. I feel I got much better results from 1000mg BCP compared to the 500 and 500...

I'm reading TB 500 doesn't need to be used everyday to be effective.. So although I'm going to be using 1000mg of BCP 157 this go around, would it be worth grabbing some TB 500 and using it twice a week or three times a week? I'm asking because I'm curious if TB 500 would work better at 1000mg 3x a week then when I used it 500mg ed..

Hopefully I'm explaining myself correctly.

I'm trying to deal with tendon tears and tendonitis
If you really want to heal tears, you need to do specific loading exercises and progress on them to heal the tendon.

BPC, TB, GH (timing collagen and proper diet) none of that will magically heal the tendon unless you do the physio.

I have learned that the hard way and it cost me a bicep tendon.

It is super hard to explain the specific exercises you may need, and you need someone to access you and give you appropriate exercises. If I would have went to physio a year ago, I would already be healed. Instead I tried to do it myself and took a years worth of tb, bpc and gh with copper peptide. Then a year later spent the money to go to physio, lol.

Funny part is I knew all the exercises he wanted me to do, but thought the ones he had me do were the useless ones. I didn't see the value in them, they seemed too simple or easy to be effective. Boy was I wrong

If you can try to find a physio person who is also an RMT.

I should have listened to the guys on here a year ago that told me to go.
 
You could also look into adding Cartalax to the mix which has some cool features like improving collagen synthesis, protecting cell cartilage degradation and is also an anti-inflammatory from what I've read. GGs has it and I'm considering giving it a go.
 
Morning @animal-inside - BPC157 works better for tendon/ligament tears than muscular issue (opinion based on studies and personal experience). Hence, this is on your side. If I was you I would still use both.
You are a big guy and one of the reasons I suspect people state it didn't work is they did not take enough or long enough. It takes a while to work (weeks, and you still need to rehab/take a break or significantly reduce the stress on the tendons to give them time to heal).
I am believe you are close to 300 lbs if I recall correct so I am not as big as you. I take a minimum of 1 mg/1000 mcg's of BPC157 per day. The old / standard protocol was 250 mcg's twice a day and I never found this was enough.
I also never found a difference between once or twice a day applications. I have used as much as 2 mg a day of BPC157.
Again opinion - do not buy a mix, buy vials separately but you can mix them in the same insulin syringe when being drawn for application.
Depends who you ask but many say TB500 twice or three times a week is fine. It has a very short half life but binds to actin and helps tissue repair (very basic explanation). Even with the short half life, it is reported to have systemic presence and activity for days but all I can find is anecdotal reports.
For the sake of a steady amount in the system and best chances of healing quicker, I would inject it daily in the same insulin syringe as the BPC157. 1 mg per day, but I would reduce this amount as you get better but I would keep the BPC157 at the 1 mg longer. Again, opinion and many may disagree.

I do not care what anyone says regarding systemic vs. injecting as close to the injury as possible, based on experience BPC157 works much better healing tendons when injected as close to the injury as possible. Yes, it is systemic in nature as it helps other injuries and I won't go on about the real experiences healing one side at a time and how much better it works when injected as close as possible vs. in your mid section for example.
TB500 had no difference whatsoever no matter where I injected it and is reputed to be completely systemic which I agree with. Hence if it is a shoulder ligament then injecting both into your shoulder will remove any chances of it not working as well systemically. Why take the chance? If systemic you can inject it anywhere. If one works better closer to the tendon/ligament inject it as close as possible.

If you are going to give this a fair trial, do it for at least 2 months, and don't expect great results if you plan to inject it and keep hammering heavy weights. No one likes benching 10 lb. DB's but I have injured myself bad enough to use the peptides, go to physio/alternative healing practitioners/and drop my weight down to next to nothing. I refer to it as active healing. Stretching and going through the motions adding another 5 lbs to each exercise every time I go through my workouts. What is a few months in decades of lifting weights? You will be right back to where you were before in no time, plus you give yourself a chance to deload/heal other issues that may be creeping up you are not aware of yet.

This is all opinion based from reading, talking to multiple members and IRL power lifters. I am not saying this is correct, but I know what works best for me and a few other IRL guys who can lift much more than I can.
I recall you had a bad chest muscle tear as well and then went camping - maybe 2-4 years ago? Hopefully, any lingering issues this will help as well.
If I had to pick one healing peptide it would be BPC157, but if I was eager to hasten my recovery time - I would take the two and add in KPV too at 500 mcg per day.

Best of luck.

thanks for the well thought out reply..

I am not 300 now, I'm a slim 245 lol.. Yes, I tore my pec quite a few years ago now. It's healed up as best as its going to, and the tear itself is no longer painful and I have lots of strength come back.. I've got a messed up shoulder with some tendon tears (big and small), but oddly enough that shoulder is causing me zero issues right now.. Currently its my right elbow getting tendonitis. I really don't thnk its torn.. It's been healing on its own, but I'm using peptides to speed the recovery along.. and if I get any other benefits to healing some tendons in my messed up shoulder, great.. if not, thats ok too because it's not causing me pain..

I am doing physio and some chiro on my messed up shoulder and also my tendonisits in the elbow.. I'm doing all the right things, I just want to heal up quicker..

The last time I used bcp it was for my messed up shoulder.. I was doing physio/chiro/time off etc. I was doing everything I could.. It was such a shitty slow healing process and I finally said fuck it and got a few months supply of BCP and like magic, pain gone and it started to heal to the point I was painfree and able to lift with it again.. It hasn't come back either.. knock on wood
 
If you really want to heal tears, you need to do specific loading exercises and progress on them to heal the tendon.

BPC, TB, GH (timing collagen and proper diet) none of that will magically heal the tendon unless you do the physio.

I have learned that the hard way and it cost me a bicep tendon.

It is super hard to explain the specific exercises you may need, and you need someone to access you and give you appropriate exercises. If I would have went to physio a year ago, I would already be healed. Instead I tried to do it myself and took a years worth of tb, bpc and gh with copper peptide. Then a year later spent the money to go to physio, lol.

I do the exercises.. and they do help.. but I want it to heal faster lol.
Funny part is I knew all the exercises he wanted me to do, but thought the ones he had me do were the useless ones. I didn't see the value in them, they seemed too simple or easy to be effective. Boy was I wrong

If you can try to find a physio person who is also an RMT.

I should have listened to the guys on here a year ago that told me to go.
 
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