is EQ the new Primo?

CoolRick said:
Ok let me expand a bit because I can understand how that sounds. I view compounds almost exclusively based on how well they make me grow so keep this in mind as you read the rest of my reply. Cosmetically I don't really care as I don't compete.

Masteron in my experience blocks my estrogen really good. Too good infact to the point where I have low estrogen symptoms, messes with my prostate etc.
It is my opinion that its somewhere between an ancillary and an anabolic. To me it's basically injectable proviron with weak anabolic properties.

Does masteron have a cosmetic/ drying effect? Yes. Winstrol has a primo kind of effect where the muscles look fuller but you're not watery so it also contributes to a dryer look. This already makes the two superior to masteron in my view. Maybe I'm not articulating this correctly but someone who has run winstrol will know what I'm talking about. I never found myself getting substantially stronger on mast.

This doesn't mean it works that way for others. Keep in mind I'm a weirdo, I respond to long esters quickly, I like short cycles vs long, and I like deca only cycles lol. Everything in our world that screams lunatic 😂
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i will report back in 8 and 16 weeks with my opinions on the matter.
winstrol might be unfair though since i’ll also be adding in 50 tren a with it🤓
 
Redz said:
winstrol is one of the most highly performance enhancing drugs on the planet. When I was younger (23) playing hockey it was insane what it did to my agility. I could literally side step at full speed around someone and continue top speed. No joke at that exact time I would have loved to face nhl competition to see how much of a jump in performance it had on me. I played against junior A players and and an AHL goalie and smoked them. No question the peds played a huge part especially in speed and agility.
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So that’s why McDavid does what he does, should have known.
 
biguglynewf said:
I think many folks who bad mouth these two steroids havent truly run them and are parroting popular opnion....

That never happens on the forums ever 🙄

My comment is not directed to those that have chimed in here with personal experience that has not been positive or worse. No one aas is for everyone for a whole lot of reasons.

I have absolutely enjoyed both EQ and winstrol over the years.

For example....We see so many herald deca as a savior of all things achy....and winstrol to be the root of all evil for causing the achy and avoid at all cost.

Absolutes dont exist..Neither of these statements are entirely true nor entirely false. And the only way to truly know is to experiment and experience.

Opinion only....but I believe if more people actually used winstrol, its popularity would soar. It is an amazing drug.

Eq is the same, although obviously contextually different. But it can be pure magic in my experience.

All drugs come with a risk v. reward ratio expression attached to them. These should be understood and monitired and measured where possible... both anecdotally and empirically keeping progress, response and overall goals in mind .

There are never any truly good or bad absolutes.

I mean...if one should choose to go further beyond - I like to lift things up and put them down and use steroids cause they work.....

Or wherever you may reside on the spectrum between - down-the-rabbit-hole micro managing boil-the-ocean to lift heavy shit, eat lots and take 'roids
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Good points.

I think everyone reacts differently to different compounds and the only way to know how you react is to run them yourself. Change only one thing in isolation so you know what difference you get from that change. monitor how you feel and what changes you see over time. adjust things slowly. If you make too many changes too fast you don't know what did what. Especially with something like EQ that takes 3-4 weeks to really see the difference / results. It is also very much about how you FEEL on the compound. That is completely different from one person to the next. After 20 years of doing this I have tried pretty much everything and know what I like and don't like.

Stuff I like:
- Test (any time, all the time)
- Test/Mast/Primo (trying to make lean gains with minimal sides)
- Test/DHB/EQ (trying to bulk a bit more but still stay relatively lean, great for endurance/sports)
- Test/Mast/Tren (trying to cut and maintain / gain strength...temper is very short on this combo so I need to monitor myself)
- using orals like DBol, Madol, and stanalone as a pre-workout
- Proviron and Anavar as a post cycle / bridge...this not only gets me very lean but helps transition off a high dose cycle without the brutal crash
- Aromasin (only anti-e that works well for me, estrogen is way more of an influence of shut down for me and this keeps my balls from being achy and tight)
- Caber (works like a charm for prolactin, took Bromocriptine a few times and felt so nauteous I threw up every time, maybe my dose was off)

Stuff I don't like:
- Nandrolone (makes me bitchy and emotional...primo kinda does this but to a way lesser extent and is manageable)
- MENT (makes me feel nothing at all, good or bad, everything is just blah)
- Nolva (never noticed any difference from it as an estro blocker or PCT, hard pass from me)
- Adex (doesn't seem to work for me, estrogen control just isn't effective)
- Pretty much all the orals not mentioned above, I know some people that love winstrol but I feel that the same can be done with var and prov for cutting and if using for strength then madol and stanalone beat it hands down for me.

I have friends that love deca. I can't stand it. I feel like a girl on her fuckin period.

Only way to know is to try stuff...
 
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Brbpuppy said:
Pretty sure that’s been debunked?
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Maybe it wouldn't be suitable for some compounds and in some forms but there is no reason I've ever seen why it wouldn't be an effective thing for many. I'd guess that the debunking involved inappropriate compounds or forms. Not calling anyone out here but if anyone has any thing to add I'd be all ears

storman said:
plus trying to keep the crushed tabs under your tongue for 20 min is retarded
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Been there, this is what I meant about forms, pure free powder for var for example
 
dose is also super dependent on the individual...what i take is too much for some and too little for others...some guys I know blow up on one shot of 250mg test and others need a gram to get any results.
 
Tacitus_Nero said:
I’m enjoying low dose EQ. I’m currently on my second run of my 120mg TRT + 150mg EQ for 12 weeks.

My bloodwork came back excellent after the first time I ran it for 12 weeks. So I didn’t change anything.
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Did you check your Estrogen? Very curious about the impact it had on that.
 
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